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Review of the Valdada – IOR 1.5x8x26 Riflescope.
Recently was able to T&E the above rifle scope. Was able to evaluate the scope over the course of one day doing both distance work and CQB. I came away very impressed... Follows the book specs, and then my impressions....
Magnification: 1.5 to 8 x
Objective Size: 26mm
FOV (100 yds) 89-22 Ft
Exit Pupil 3.25 -17.5 mm
Eye Relief: 3.5 inch
Dioptrical Adjustment: -3 to +3 DPT
Reticle – Total Adjustment Range: 75 MOA at 100 yds
Click Value: 1.4 MOA at 100 yds
Tube Diameter: 35 mm
Length: 9.5 inch
Weight: 22 oz
Disclaimer: Not a “Glass Guy.” Some of the above means very little to me. But I'm a reasonable example of an end user.
SIZE AND WEIGHT:
The IOR 1.5x8x26 Riflescope has some chunk to it. It feels very, very solid in the hand. The IOR documentation says it weighs in at 22 oz., which may well be true.... When chucked onto my Sister in Laws neurotic food weighing scale, the scope with high rings weighed in at 28.3 oz.
For comparison an Aimpoint and Aimpoint 3 x magnifier with quick detach mounts weighs in at 22.8 oz.
The IOR 1.5x8x26 is 9.5 inches in length. With a 35mm tube body. To me it is not overly large for 8 x magnification.
Size versus some 1 x competitors:
Size versus 4 x ACOG:
Size versus an IOR 1 and 4 power Pitbull and an Aimpoint and Magnifier setup:
Much like a Romanian peasant woman this scope is heavy, strong, and thick. But considering the range of magnification, and the inherent ruggedness of the scope I consider the size and weight more than acceptable. (Kinda like the peasant woman when you got fields to plow.) It's less bulky than an Aimpoint and Magnifier, and weighs less than an 5.5 ACOG while arguably offering more versatility.
RINGS AND MOUNTING:
IOR includes your choice of High, Medium, or Low rings, in alloy or steel with the scope. Am unsure if the rings included on my T&E sample were alloy or steel. Certainly rugged enough. Was able to use our M110 tools to mount the IOR 1.5x8x26 on one of our M4's easily.
Moved the PEQ from the top rail and was able to move the scope forward. Still had to seat my head back just a little further than I like, in order to work with the scopes generous eye relief (However, I am a nose to charging handle guy.) Because of this I would probably end up buying an aftermarket extended scope mount. Both American Defense Manufacturing and Larue (finally) offer 35mm scope mounts now.
RETICLE:
I love the ACOG reticle and consequently I love the reticle on this optic. The IOR 1.5x8x26 reticle looks likes this:
Line Thickness: 0.5 MOA at 100 yds
Center Dot Diameter: 3 MOA at Max Power
Inside Horseshoe Diameter: 10 MOA at Max Power
Outside Horseshoe Diameter: 16 MOA @ Max Power
“The reticule is designed to work with a 62gr 5.56mm miltary load. ….. The Hashmarks are tapered for a 21” wide target (shoulders,) from 300 to 800 yds, marking at the same time, the 300 to 800 yd Holdover Points.”
Some of the shooters/evaluators with me felt the “Horseshoe” was too thick... But I felt it was worth it for the doughnut of death affect in CQB....
The illumination is for night time use. It works well for that. It is not apparent during the day... at all.... even on max setting. The lowest setting is supposed to be night vision compatible. I did not test it. The illumination know goes from low power to max power to OFF and then around again.... Clever.
The reticle does not grow with magnification. Consequently I believe the holdovers will only be correct at 8 x.
The Holdovers seem dead nuts on. See below.....
DISTANCE WORK:
Was able to shoot a M-4 (Colt, 14.5 inch barrel, RAS rail) with the IOR 1.5x8x26 against steel plates set out to a 1,000 meters. Ammo was M855 ball.
Was able to zero the scope fairly quickly vs. a small square plate at a 100 meters. I then began to stretch the weapons legs. I was able to consistently hit a man sized plate at 650 meters. Another shooter was able to obtain hits (maybe 1 out of 2 or 3) against a plate at 750 meters. He was able to shoot 3 hits in a row at 750 meters when the wind died down completely. Bear in mind the shooting conditions were close to ideal... good illum and little wind. I think 800 meters is the upper, upper limit of a M-4 with M855, and this glass will let you take the weapon to it's max potential.
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The holdovers worked well. To ping the 650 meter target I centered the plate between the 6 and 7 line and pulled through....
CQB:
The IOR 1.5x8x26 worked well for CQB. Was not able to do comparison split times, etc., but my impressions were thus.... Not as fast as an Aimpoint. A black dot and horseshoe at 1.5 is still not as good as a 1 x red dot. But not bad. And a metric shit ton better at CQB than a 4 x ACOG. If BAC works for you... Awesome. But I find it to be inherently slower and makes me want to vomit after a while... YMMV.
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The generous eye relief helped with not traditional shooting positions....
CONCLUSIONS:
I like this scope. A lot.
I probably would have bought one last tour sight unseen if Larue or anyone else had been offering extended 35mm scope mounts at the time. It had everything I wanted in a scope. Low mag for close work. 8 x for distance. And the familiar, and effective ACOG style reticle.
Having been able to use the scope …. I think I'm going to have to buy one..... The glass is clear and bright. The eye relief is good. (I am so tired of that stupid J-Point on top of my ACOG wacking my NODS plate when I'm shooting in the prone.) The holdovers are dead on. You can push the M-4 to it's limits for distance work, and still be effective at close quarters.....
Still nothing's perfect. If IOR wants some improves, they would be:
Possible offer the scope at a cheaper price minus the rings for all the guys who are going to buy ADM or Larue mounts anyway.
Possible make the reticle first focal plane. I can definitely live with it as is though, and changing it would not be worth it if it greatly drives up price, or makes the scope less rugged.
Add a “Cat's Tail” or whatever they are calling it to the magnification ring.
Make it lighter if possible. (Without losing strength/ruggedness.)
Still, pretty minor bitches. With an IOR 1.5x8x26 mounted on a quality AR, you have potent combination.
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Review of the Valdada – IOR 1.5x8x26 Riflescope.
Recently was able to T&E the above rifle scope. Was able to evaluate the scope over the course of one day doing both distance work and CQB. I came away very impressed... Follows the book specs, and then my impressions....
Magnification: 1.5 to 8 x
Objective Size: 26mm
FOV (100 yds) 89-22 Ft
Exit Pupil 3.25 -17.5 mm
Eye Relief: 3.5 inch
Dioptrical Adjustment: -3 to +3 DPT
Reticle – Total Adjustment Range: 75 MOA at 100 yds
Click Value: 1.4 MOA at 100 yds
Tube Diameter: 35 mm
Length: 9.5 inch
Weight: 22 oz
Disclaimer: Not a “Glass Guy.” Some of the above means very little to me. But I'm a reasonable example of an end user.
SIZE AND WEIGHT:
The IOR 1.5x8x26 Riflescope has some chunk to it. It feels very, very solid in the hand. The IOR documentation says it weighs in at 22 oz., which may well be true.... When chucked onto my Sister in Laws neurotic food weighing scale, the scope with high rings weighed in at 28.3 oz.
For comparison an Aimpoint and Aimpoint 3 x magnifier with quick detach mounts weighs in at 22.8 oz.
The IOR 1.5x8x26 is 9.5 inches in length. With a 35mm tube body. To me it is not overly large for 8 x magnification.
Size versus some 1 x competitors:
Size versus 4 x ACOG:
Size versus an IOR 1 and 4 power Pitbull and an Aimpoint and Magnifier setup:
Much like a Romanian peasant woman this scope is heavy, strong, and thick. But considering the range of magnification, and the inherent ruggedness of the scope I consider the size and weight more than acceptable. (Kinda like the peasant woman when you got fields to plow.) It's less bulky than an Aimpoint and Magnifier, and weighs less than an 5.5 ACOG while arguably offering more versatility.
RINGS AND MOUNTING:
IOR includes your choice of High, Medium, or Low rings, in alloy or steel with the scope. Am unsure if the rings included on my T&E sample were alloy or steel. Certainly rugged enough. Was able to use our M110 tools to mount the IOR 1.5x8x26 on one of our M4's easily.
Moved the PEQ from the top rail and was able to move the scope forward. Still had to seat my head back just a little further than I like, in order to work with the scopes generous eye relief (However, I am a nose to charging handle guy.) Because of this I would probably end up buying an aftermarket extended scope mount. Both American Defense Manufacturing and Larue (finally) offer 35mm scope mounts now.
RETICLE:
I love the ACOG reticle and consequently I love the reticle on this optic. The IOR 1.5x8x26 reticle looks likes this:
Line Thickness: 0.5 MOA at 100 yds
Center Dot Diameter: 3 MOA at Max Power
Inside Horseshoe Diameter: 10 MOA at Max Power
Outside Horseshoe Diameter: 16 MOA @ Max Power
“The reticule is designed to work with a 62gr 5.56mm miltary load. ….. The Hashmarks are tapered for a 21” wide target (shoulders,) from 300 to 800 yds, marking at the same time, the 300 to 800 yd Holdover Points.”
Some of the shooters/evaluators with me felt the “Horseshoe” was too thick... But I felt it was worth it for the doughnut of death affect in CQB....
The illumination is for night time use. It works well for that. It is not apparent during the day... at all.... even on max setting. The lowest setting is supposed to be night vision compatible. I did not test it. The illumination know goes from low power to max power to OFF and then around again.... Clever.
The reticle does not grow with magnification. Consequently I believe the holdovers will only be correct at 8 x.
The Holdovers seem dead nuts on. See below.....
DISTANCE WORK:
Was able to shoot a M-4 (Colt, 14.5 inch barrel, RAS rail) with the IOR 1.5x8x26 against steel plates set out to a 1,000 meters. Ammo was M855 ball.
Was able to zero the scope fairly quickly vs. a small square plate at a 100 meters. I then began to stretch the weapons legs. I was able to consistently hit a man sized plate at 650 meters. Another shooter was able to obtain hits (maybe 1 out of 2 or 3) against a plate at 750 meters. He was able to shoot 3 hits in a row at 750 meters when the wind died down completely. Bear in mind the shooting conditions were close to ideal... good illum and little wind. I think 800 meters is the upper, upper limit of a M-4 with M855, and this glass will let you take the weapon to it's max potential.
</a>The holdovers worked well. To ping the 650 meter target I centered the plate between the 6 and 7 line and pulled through....
CQB:
The IOR 1.5x8x26 worked well for CQB. Was not able to do comparison split times, etc., but my impressions were thus.... Not as fast as an Aimpoint. A black dot and horseshoe at 1.5 is still not as good as a 1 x red dot. But not bad. And a metric shit ton better at CQB than a 4 x ACOG. If BAC works for you... Awesome. But I find it to be inherently slower and makes me want to vomit after a while... YMMV.
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</a>The generous eye relief helped with not traditional shooting positions....
CONCLUSIONS:
I like this scope. A lot.
I probably would have bought one last tour sight unseen if Larue or anyone else had been offering extended 35mm scope mounts at the time. It had everything I wanted in a scope. Low mag for close work. 8 x for distance. And the familiar, and effective ACOG style reticle.
Having been able to use the scope …. I think I'm going to have to buy one..... The glass is clear and bright. The eye relief is good. (I am so tired of that stupid J-Point on top of my ACOG wacking my NODS plate when I'm shooting in the prone.) The holdovers are dead on. You can push the M-4 to it's limits for distance work, and still be effective at close quarters.....
Still nothing's perfect. If IOR wants some improves, they would be:
Possible offer the scope at a cheaper price minus the rings for all the guys who are going to buy ADM or Larue mounts anyway.
Possible make the reticle first focal plane. I can definitely live with it as is though, and changing it would not be worth it if it greatly drives up price, or makes the scope less rugged.
Add a “Cat's Tail” or whatever they are calling it to the magnification ring.
Make it lighter if possible. (Without losing strength/ruggedness.)
Still, pretty minor bitches. With an IOR 1.5x8x26 mounted on a quality AR, you have potent combination.
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