SA M1as: loaded v. national match

[neoinarien]

Prices are comparable on buds. National match seems to have more upgrades (national match is glass bedded, has a NM spring guide, and gas system assembly), but everyone seems to buy the loaded.

Thoughts? Is this a price point thing, an availability issue? I would assume that the glass bedding, if done properly, improves accuracy.

 

[chansen49]

Re: SA M1as: loaded v. national match



I think the loaded is a great rifle. I had one, and put it in a Sage EBR. Thats probably the main reason to buy the loaded vs a NM.. To toss it in something better, like a mcmillan, sage, or JAE stock etc..

CH

 

[lennyo3034]

Re: SA M1as: loaded v. national match

Groups from my out of the box National Match. I believe they are guaranteed to 1.5 MOA accuracy, but as you can see, they can achieve better.

One thing to consider about the bedding is that the Loaded model can be removed from the stock far more often as there is no bedding to damage. SAI recommends removing the action from the stock only once a year on the bedded NM models.

Also, a lot of vendors advertise their "Loaded" models as "National Match" models, be careful of this. Only models 9102(moly barrel) and 9802(SS barrel) are national match models. Buds gun shop was guilty of this when I was shopping.

 

[marduk185]

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i can highly recommend loaded model. i shimmed the gas block on one and with an optic smith enterprise mounted she got 1-1.5 moa pretty regler with decent factory ammo.(usually fgmm)

 

[neoinarien]

Re: SA M1as: loaded v. national match

Sounds like the accuracy difference between loaded and national match is perhaps around a quarter to half MOA, fair statement (if there is any difference at all)?

 

[lennyo3034]

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I'd say that's a fair statement with a caveat. The NM models are going to be more consistent rifle to rifle. I'd comfortably say most will be 1-1.5 MOA out of the box. The loaded on the other hand will have a varying range, I'd say 1-3 MOA. This is because receiver fit to the stock is extremely important for accuracy on this platform. The NM models are guaranteed to have good fit because they've been bedded.

Also, where did you see the price was similar? When I looked, the NM models were 4-500 more expensive.

 

[rez187]

Re: SA M1as: loaded v. national match

nat match pluses
glass beded
upgraded trigger group
nat match sights
nat match barrel (loaded also has)

if you have the money the nat match is the way to go if no money the loaded is a good place to start and upgrade as you can afford

 

[neoinarien]

Re: SA M1as: loaded v. national match

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lennyo3034</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'd say that's a fair statement with a caveat. The NM models are going to be more consistent rifle to rifle. I'd comfortably say most will be 1-1.5 MOA out of the box. The loaded on the other hand will have a varying range, I'd say 1-3 MOA. This is because receiver fit to the stock is extremely important for accuracy on this platform. The NM models are guaranteed to have good fit because they've been bedded.

Also, where did you see the price was similar? When I looked, the NM models were 4-500 more expensive. </div></div>

I think it was on Buds... but I'd have to check again.

 

[M21guy]

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Where in Wisconsin are you? My local gun shop has plenty of M1a's on hand, including the NM and loaded models. You can talk about the differences all day long, but inspecting them both side by side tells the story, if you're still on the fence about it.

 

[neoinarien]

Re: SA M1as: loaded v. national match

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neoinarien</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lennyo3034</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'd say that's a fair statement with a caveat. The NM models are going to be more consistent rifle to rifle. I'd comfortably say most will be 1-1.5 MOA out of the box. The loaded on the other hand will have a varying range, I'd say 1-3 MOA. This is because receiver fit to the stock is extremely important for accuracy on this platform. The NM models are guaranteed to have good fit because they've been bedded.

Also, where did you see the price was similar? When I looked, the NM models were 4-500 more expensive. </div></div>

I think it was on Buds... but I'd have to check again. </div></div>


From Buds:

Loaded Synthetic= $1,381

National Match Synthetic= $1,545

 

[neoinarien]

Re: SA M1as: loaded v. national match

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M21guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where in Wisconsin are you? My local gun shop has plenty of M1a's on hand, including the NM and loaded models. You can talk about the differences all day long, but inspecting them both side by side tells the story, if you're still on the fence about it. </div></div>

PM sent.

 

[vereceleritas]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neoinarien</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

From Buds:

Loaded Synthetic= $1,381

National Match Synthetic= $1,545

</div></div>

The link you posted for a National Match is actually a loaded model. Bud's has it mislabeled on their website. Just google Springfield MA9229 and you'll see other sites have it as a M1A loaded. As far as I know, Springfield doesn't put National Match or Supermatch rifles in synthetic stocks unless its a Mcmillan.

Here's a M1A NM on bud's.

 

[neoinarien]

Re: SA M1as: loaded v. national match

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vereceleritas</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neoinarien</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

From Buds:

Loaded Synthetic= $1,381

National Match Synthetic= $1,545

</div></div>

The link you posted for a National Match is actually a loaded model. Bud's has it mislabeled on their website. Just google Springfield MA9229 and you'll see other sites have it as a M1A loaded. As far as I know, Springfield doesn't put National Match or Supermatch rifles in synthetic stocks unless its a Mcmillan.

Here's a M1A NM on bud's.
</div></div>


Ahhh, good catch, thanks.

 

[lennyo3034]

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Yep, that's exactly what I was referring to earlier. Almost got me on it.

 

[neoinarien]

Re: SA M1as: loaded v. national match

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lennyo3034</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep, that's exactly what I was referring to earlier. Almost got me on it. </div></div>

You were right.

 

[M21guy]

Re: SA M1as: loaded v. national match

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neoinarien</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M21guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where in Wisconsin are you? My local gun shop has plenty of M1a's on hand, including the NM and loaded models. You can talk about the differences all day long, but inspecting them both side by side tells the story, if you're still on the fence about it. </div></div>

PM sent. </div></div>


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