I have a straight up SPS that Im building into something better, I've thought about going to a sako extractor, are they overrated? what are the Pros and cons of both the sako, and the stock remmy.
Sako extractor
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Re: Sako extractor
have you had a problem with the oem extractor yet? a sako style extractor isn't going to fix a problem that doesn't exist. they are located in a spot that usually causes your brass to hit the windage knob on the scope vs. an oem sending it strait out the side of the ejection port. then there is the potential for a safety issue as shown in the link posted above.
personally, i wouldn't go to one unless there was a damn good reason to do so.
have you had a problem with the oem extractor yet? a sako style extractor isn't going to fix a problem that doesn't exist. they are located in a spot that usually causes your brass to hit the windage knob on the scope vs. an oem sending it strait out the side of the ejection port. then there is the potential for a safety issue as shown in the link posted above.
personally, i wouldn't go to one unless there was a damn good reason to do so.
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No, the guns hasn't been built yet, and I have never had an issue with my other sako's, nor have I had problems with the regular remmy, I was just wondering which of the two is better and why.
No, the guns hasn't been built yet, and I have never had an issue with my other sako's, nor have I had problems with the regular remmy, I was just wondering which of the two is better and why.
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I have had huge issues with a Sako style extractor on a Rem 700. For one it changes the ejection angle to a point where if you are running a low mounted scope it will occasionally bounce empties back into your ejection port. May not be as much of an issue with a hunting scope but I don't have any evidence to support it. Tryed to correct it with dual ejectors... no such luck. Don't walk... run away from these things. You don't want this option unless you absolutely have to do to caliber conversion. Even then... I would look to a different platform before I would modify a 700 in such a way. Bottom line... if you want a Sako extractor... buy a Sako rifle to go along with it.
I have had huge issues with a Sako style extractor on a Rem 700. For one it changes the ejection angle to a point where if you are running a low mounted scope it will occasionally bounce empties back into your ejection port. May not be as much of an issue with a hunting scope but I don't have any evidence to support it. Tryed to correct it with dual ejectors... no such luck. Don't walk... run away from these things. You don't want this option unless you absolutely have to do to caliber conversion. Even then... I would look to a different platform before I would modify a 700 in such a way. Bottom line... if you want a Sako extractor... buy a Sako rifle to go along with it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, the guns hasn't been built yet, and I have never had an issue with my other sako's, nor have I had problems with the regular remmy, I was just wondering which of the two is better and why.</div></div>
i would prolly sniff around a m-16 extractor.....certianly for a magnum boltface..........
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, the guns hasn't been built yet, and I have never had an issue with my other sako's, nor have I had problems with the regular remmy, I was just wondering which of the two is better and why.</div></div>
i would prolly sniff around a m-16 extractor.....certianly for a magnum boltface..........
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If you've made up your mind on getting an aftermarket extractor, I would recommend the M16 type over a Sako type for the M700. However, I think the standard OEM extractor is best, if you're staying with the original boltface size.
If you've made up your mind on getting an aftermarket extractor, I would recommend the M16 type over a Sako type for the M700. However, I think the standard OEM extractor is best, if you're staying with the original boltface size.
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(Four months later) So I decided to go with the OE extractor, and now I wish I hadn't. What a POFS!! I have had several extraction problems, at first, it would extract about 7 out of ten cases. So I removed the extractor and opened it up(as recommended by others) and that helped alot, it then only had problems with about one out of 15 cases. Keep in mind that these are FL sized brass fired with a moderate load, and the problem persisted with both fired and unfired rounds. So my next descision was to replace the extractor with a new one, but before that happened I got an unfired case stuck in the chamber in the middle of a prairie dog town 800 miles from home and sans other rifles
To add insult to injury, the sister rifle of mine(an identical build) has been having problems extracting as well. So now I really wish I had gone a different way, and now I need to take the rifle to the smith and have a stuck round removed as well as any work done.
(Four months later) So I decided to go with the OE extractor, and now I wish I hadn't. What a POFS!! I have had several extraction problems, at first, it would extract about 7 out of ten cases. So I removed the extractor and opened it up(as recommended by others) and that helped alot, it then only had problems with about one out of 15 cases. Keep in mind that these are FL sized brass fired with a moderate load, and the problem persisted with both fired and unfired rounds. So my next descision was to replace the extractor with a new one, but before that happened I got an unfired case stuck in the chamber in the middle of a prairie dog town 800 miles from home and sans other rifles
To add insult to injury, the sister rifle of mine(an identical build) has been having problems extracting as well. So now I really wish I had gone a different way, and now I need to take the rifle to the smith and have a stuck round removed as well as any work done.
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What caliber is this?
Never remove a factory extractor and put it back in no matter what someone on the internet suggests. They come out a new one goes back in, that’s they way they are designed.
Why did the case get stuck in the chamber? Over pressure loads or some other reason?
Having extraction issues with a non magnum cartridge with a factory extractor is usually caused by operator error, or some other issue with the rifle.
What caliber is this?
Never remove a factory extractor and put it back in no matter what someone on the internet suggests. They come out a new one goes back in, that’s they way they are designed.
Why did the case get stuck in the chamber? Over pressure loads or some other reason?
Having extraction issues with a non magnum cartridge with a factory extractor is usually caused by operator error, or some other issue with the rifle.
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My SPS Varmint has had over 1400 rounds through it with no extraction issues. That includes one over pressure round that was hot enough to flatten the primer and make the bolt handle pretty stiff. I see no reason to change, it works fine.
My SPS Varmint has had over 1400 rounds through it with no extraction issues. That includes one over pressure round that was hot enough to flatten the primer and make the bolt handle pretty stiff. I see no reason to change, it works fine.
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This is a .223 rem, nothing fancy. I believe this particular round got stuck because of some debris may have gotten into my chamber. that is the only thing I can think of, the stuck round is unfired and all previous rounds (full length sized) had no problems. I tried tapping it out with a cleaning rod but it wont budge.
Also, as I posted above, the sister rifle, Identical in every way has had few problems as well. and it has never been touched, it was a brand new in box SPS until this build.
This is a .223 rem, nothing fancy. I believe this particular round got stuck because of some debris may have gotten into my chamber. that is the only thing I can think of, the stuck round is unfired and all previous rounds (full length sized) had no problems. I tried tapping it out with a cleaning rod but it wont budge.
Also, as I posted above, the sister rifle, Identical in every way has had few problems as well. and it has never been touched, it was a brand new in box SPS until this build.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is a .223 rem, nothing fancy. I believe this particular round got stuck because of some debris may have gotten into my chamber. that is the only thing I can think of, the stuck round is unfired and all previous rounds (full length sized) had no problems. I tried tapping it out with a cleaning rod but it wont budge.
Also, as I posted above, the sister rifle, Identical in every way has had few problems as well. and it has never been touched, it was a brand new in box SPS until this build. </div></div>
There were issues with Remington .223 actions and rifles.
It seems that either the extractor and or the extractor grove in the bolt nose were out of specs, so much so that there was not enough spring in the extractor and it was shaving lots of brass rims.
This was easily fixed if one knew what to look for either by altering the extractor claw or by cutting the extractor grove a little deeper to allow the extractor to compress more and snap over the case rim.
If you have one of these .223's and use the brass more then once it will start to give extraction issues because you have shaved part of the rim away when the brass was chambered before and the extractor has nothing to hold onto.
It was fairly easy to tell these .223's, it would be difficult to rotate the bolt closed on a loaded chamber because the extractor had no room to snap over the brass rim and would just simply shave off the brass.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is a .223 rem, nothing fancy. I believe this particular round got stuck because of some debris may have gotten into my chamber. that is the only thing I can think of, the stuck round is unfired and all previous rounds (full length sized) had no problems. I tried tapping it out with a cleaning rod but it wont budge.
Also, as I posted above, the sister rifle, Identical in every way has had few problems as well. and it has never been touched, it was a brand new in box SPS until this build. </div></div>
There were issues with Remington .223 actions and rifles.
It seems that either the extractor and or the extractor grove in the bolt nose were out of specs, so much so that there was not enough spring in the extractor and it was shaving lots of brass rims.
This was easily fixed if one knew what to look for either by altering the extractor claw or by cutting the extractor grove a little deeper to allow the extractor to compress more and snap over the case rim.
If you have one of these .223's and use the brass more then once it will start to give extraction issues because you have shaved part of the rim away when the brass was chambered before and the extractor has nothing to hold onto.
It was fairly easy to tell these .223's, it would be difficult to rotate the bolt closed on a loaded chamber because the extractor had no room to snap over the brass rim and would just simply shave off the brass.
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That makes sense, because I have noticed it shaving off the rims everynow and then. What could I do to fix it?
That makes sense, because I have noticed it shaving off the rims everynow and then. What could I do to fix it?
