im going to be buying a Savage 10 eventually and wondering how much more i can do to it to squeeze more accuracy out of it. any tips? (beddings, recoil lugs, scope mmounting etc.)
Gunsmithing Savage 10 upgrading
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Re: Savage 10 upgrading
Seeing as this is exactly what I've done with my savage, this is what I'd do.
-New stock. If it needs bedded then bed it.
-1 piece 20 MOA rail.
-Good rings.
-Better scope.
Shoot the barrel out then re-barrel it. I'd get some CDI bottom metal too.
Seeing as this is exactly what I've done with my savage, this is what I'd do.
-New stock. If it needs bedded then bed it.
-1 piece 20 MOA rail.
-Good rings.
-Better scope.
Shoot the barrel out then re-barrel it. I'd get some CDI bottom metal too.
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
Simply put, yes to all and add trigger to the mix. I put mine in a choate tactical stock, CEO bottom metal, Stockade recoil lug and tactical bolt knob, Ken Farrel 20moa base, and seekins rings. Planning on skim bedding the stock, when I get the guts to do it and replace the accutrigger with an supermarket. It shoots sub moa as it is and even with a cheaper Primary Arms scope. They're good rifles but you can make em better
Simply put, yes to all and add trigger to the mix. I put mine in a choate tactical stock, CEO bottom metal, Stockade recoil lug and tactical bolt knob, Ken Farrel 20moa base, and seekins rings. Planning on skim bedding the stock, when I get the guts to do it and replace the accutrigger with an supermarket. It shoots sub moa as it is and even with a cheaper Primary Arms scope. They're good rifles but you can make em better
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
These are fine suggestions, but before you do anything, go shoot the shit out of it. My 10FP shot better than me out of the box, today at the range I was putting 2 or 3 bullets through the same hole, and my 5 shot groups were opening up to around .5-1.0 moa. the first time I really opened it up to 1k, it shot a 1moa group, and imediately thereafter I shot a magpie standing just behind the target.
The only thing I have done to it is thread the barrel for my can, other than that, she is all Savage.
These are fine suggestions, but before you do anything, go shoot the shit out of it. My 10FP shot better than me out of the box, today at the range I was putting 2 or 3 bullets through the same hole, and my 5 shot groups were opening up to around .5-1.0 moa. the first time I really opened it up to 1k, it shot a 1moa group, and imediately thereafter I shot a magpie standing just behind the target.
The only thing I have done to it is thread the barrel for my can, other than that, she is all Savage.
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
+1 to CBM's post. Unless you have a good bit of experience with these type of guns, buy a scope-base-ring setup that you can afford and just shoot it. Eventually you will learn what type of upgrades will best suit you.
+1 to CBM's post. Unless you have a good bit of experience with these type of guns, buy a scope-base-ring setup that you can afford and just shoot it. Eventually you will learn what type of upgrades will best suit you.
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
Take a good look at the options. Savage's 2011 lineup has several new additions. You may (likely) see something that already meets your needs NIB.
The Accue-trigger is adjustable and gets good reviews. The Accue-Stock is a major accuracy improvement, although it's somewhat tame from a styling viewpoint. The Factory DM is worth looking at. Now chamberings are added for 2011 including .260 Rem and 6.5 CM.
Greg
Take a good look at the options. Savage's 2011 lineup has several new additions. You may (likely) see something that already meets your needs NIB.
The Accue-trigger is adjustable and gets good reviews. The Accue-Stock is a major accuracy improvement, although it's somewhat tame from a styling viewpoint. The Factory DM is worth looking at. Now chamberings are added for 2011 including .260 Rem and 6.5 CM.
Greg
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
can a thicker recoil lug help with accuracy? how much work is it to replace it and what tools are needed? are remington 700 recoil lugs interchangeable with savage?
can a thicker recoil lug help with accuracy? how much work is it to replace it and what tools are needed? are remington 700 recoil lugs interchangeable with savage?
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: youngsmith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">can a thicker recoil lug help with accuracy? how much work is it to replace it and what tools are needed? are remington 700 recoil lugs interchangeable with savage? </div></div>
You're not listening, just get it and shoot it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: youngsmith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">can a thicker recoil lug help with accuracy? how much work is it to replace it and what tools are needed? are remington 700 recoil lugs interchangeable with savage? </div></div>
You're not listening, just get it and shoot it.
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quickdraw40</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: youngsmith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">can a thicker recoil lug help with accuracy? how much work is it to replace it and what tools are needed? are remington 700 recoil lugs interchangeable with savage? </div></div>
You're not listening, just get it and shoot it. </div></div>
Haha. Everyone else is right. Just go shoot it until you know what you want, and don't have to ask people what you should get.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quickdraw40</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: youngsmith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">can a thicker recoil lug help with accuracy? how much work is it to replace it and what tools are needed? are remington 700 recoil lugs interchangeable with savage? </div></div>
You're not listening, just get it and shoot it. </div></div>
Haha. Everyone else is right. Just go shoot it until you know what you want, and don't have to ask people what you should get.
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
You could do this.
Savage 110 action-trued
Shilen 28 inch Select Match SS
Chambered in 6.5x55
PDC custom Stock
-Adj length of pull
-Adj butt plate/cheek height
-raised forearm
Rifle Basix Sav 2 trigger
Burris XTR rings
EGW 20 MOA base
Sightron SIII 6-24
Harris Bipod
SSS recoil lug
You could do this.
Savage 110 action-trued
Shilen 28 inch Select Match SS
Chambered in 6.5x55
PDC custom Stock
-Adj length of pull
-Adj butt plate/cheek height
-raised forearm
Rifle Basix Sav 2 trigger
Burris XTR rings
EGW 20 MOA base
Sightron SIII 6-24
Harris Bipod
SSS recoil lug
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
dont bother with the recoil lug til you rebarrel. just get an EGW 20 moa base, some burris XTR rings (low) and a decent scope til you can start to upgrade. try a 3200 10X BUSHNELL mil/mil or weaver tactical 3.5-10x again mil/mil and from midway. both great to get you started
TJ, let me know and ill help you bed that thing.
dont bother with the recoil lug til you rebarrel. just get an EGW 20 moa base, some burris XTR rings (low) and a decent scope til you can start to upgrade. try a 3200 10X BUSHNELL mil/mil or weaver tactical 3.5-10x again mil/mil and from midway. both great to get you started
TJ, let me know and ill help you bed that thing.
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bama110</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What axeman said but with warne rings and check out swfa ss for scope </div></div>
GAWD I HATE Warne rings. I had a set, and they were great until I had to make a adjustment of scope location. I couldn't get the scope level to save my life because of the way they clamped down to the base, and the scope at the same time. I would get the scope level, and start to torque 'em, and the scope would move off level. I freakin' hate 'em. Bought a used set of Badgers. Burris Zee rings work awesome, and they don't break the bank. They aren't 'tacticool', but they work.
Branden
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bama110</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What axeman said but with warne rings and check out swfa ss for scope </div></div>
GAWD I HATE Warne rings. I had a set, and they were great until I had to make a adjustment of scope location. I couldn't get the scope level to save my life because of the way they clamped down to the base, and the scope at the same time. I would get the scope level, and start to torque 'em, and the scope would move off level. I freakin' hate 'em. Bought a used set of Badgers. Burris Zee rings work awesome, and they don't break the bank. They aren't 'tacticool', but they work.
Branden
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
ive got the burris engraved set for my 10/22s and they tighten from both sides on the rail. i guess its so you have some windage control, but man i had to finally get the calipers out and center them that way cause i couldnt do it by eye. but i wanted the engraved part for some extra flash. still need one set painted stainless
ive got the burris engraved set for my 10/22s and they tighten from both sides on the rail. i guess its so you have some windage control, but man i had to finally get the calipers out and center them that way cause i couldnt do it by eye. but i wanted the engraved part for some extra flash. still need one set painted stainless
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
i have the model 10 308 precision carbine.ss10x mounted in egw hd rings and 20moa base.thing shot really well as new then i cryloned it and now that thing is super acurate.all a guy needs to do to his new savage is add krylon to it and bobs your uncle you have a very great shooting gun.just playin man.buy the thing scope it and shoot the hell out of it.just my opinion.
i have the model 10 308 precision carbine.ss10x mounted in egw hd rings and 20moa base.thing shot really well as new then i cryloned it and now that thing is super acurate.all a guy needs to do to his new savage is add krylon to it and bobs your uncle you have a very great shooting gun.just playin man.buy the thing scope it and shoot the hell out of it.just my opinion.
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
nice lookin rig.my model 10pc is drooling right now.may look better in camo,yea a nice white camo...
nice lookin rig.my model 10pc is drooling right now.may look better in camo,yea a nice white camo...
Re: Savage 10 upgrading
OK, after reviewing your posts and your Mauser project, I think I have something of a better grasp on your stage in the process.
Compared with the K98,the Savage is better configured to serve as a project platform. Components exist, and the design lends itself better to rebarreling. As I mentioned above, Savage has been reworking its offerings to the point where modification becomes less necessary. But, as with most specialized offerings, prices have also been creeping upward. Judging from the direction you projects have taken, I think you're looking to start less expensive, and invest more heavily in sweat equity.
The basic advantages of the Savage are available in the Stevens action, which is essentially the original Savage 10/110 minus the Accue-Trigger. Good replacement triggers are available, Savage themselves used the Sharpshooter Supply unit as an interim improvement while the Accue-Trigger was in development.
Good aftermarket barrels are available. I use Lothar-Walther, but many other excellent choices are available as well. Bell and Carlson and McMillan make excellent stocks. Barrel replacements go well with a recoil lug upgrade, I use Sharpshooter's item.
To save, I'd suggest Pac-Nor and Bell and Carlson, and in the meantime, you might want to experiment with handmade wood stock prototypes, perhaps built up from pine blocks. This can allow you to figure out the art of customizing for ergonomics, and configuring stock geometry for accuracy.
As special tools go, a barrel nut wrench (there are several types of barrel nuts, so count the spanner wrench holes in the nut and get the right one.), and barrel adapter blocks for a good solid vice should head the list. Getting the barrel nut loose the first time from the factory requires a major physical effort.
Scope mounts are important, For extended ranges, sloped bases help; most LR shooters use a 20MOA slope value. I like the Ken Farrel product, but it tends to end up with a higher optical axis, requiring cheek rise stock adapters. Burris Signature adjustable offset rings and bases can do much the same thing without adding excessive height, as well as allowing some provision to correct lateral scope mounting misalignments.
The important thing is to get reliable components and stuff, install them right, and get the piece up and running. Avoid the masterpiece obsession until you're past the apprentice and journeyman stages.
Start simple, keep simple, and don't get hung up on details and detours.
Greg
OK, after reviewing your posts and your Mauser project, I think I have something of a better grasp on your stage in the process.
Compared with the K98,the Savage is better configured to serve as a project platform. Components exist, and the design lends itself better to rebarreling. As I mentioned above, Savage has been reworking its offerings to the point where modification becomes less necessary. But, as with most specialized offerings, prices have also been creeping upward. Judging from the direction you projects have taken, I think you're looking to start less expensive, and invest more heavily in sweat equity.
The basic advantages of the Savage are available in the Stevens action, which is essentially the original Savage 10/110 minus the Accue-Trigger. Good replacement triggers are available, Savage themselves used the Sharpshooter Supply unit as an interim improvement while the Accue-Trigger was in development.
Good aftermarket barrels are available. I use Lothar-Walther, but many other excellent choices are available as well. Bell and Carlson and McMillan make excellent stocks. Barrel replacements go well with a recoil lug upgrade, I use Sharpshooter's item.
To save, I'd suggest Pac-Nor and Bell and Carlson, and in the meantime, you might want to experiment with handmade wood stock prototypes, perhaps built up from pine blocks. This can allow you to figure out the art of customizing for ergonomics, and configuring stock geometry for accuracy.
As special tools go, a barrel nut wrench (there are several types of barrel nuts, so count the spanner wrench holes in the nut and get the right one.), and barrel adapter blocks for a good solid vice should head the list. Getting the barrel nut loose the first time from the factory requires a major physical effort.
Scope mounts are important, For extended ranges, sloped bases help; most LR shooters use a 20MOA slope value. I like the Ken Farrel product, but it tends to end up with a higher optical axis, requiring cheek rise stock adapters. Burris Signature adjustable offset rings and bases can do much the same thing without adding excessive height, as well as allowing some provision to correct lateral scope mounting misalignments.
The important thing is to get reliable components and stuff, install them right, and get the piece up and running. Avoid the masterpiece obsession until you're past the apprentice and journeyman stages.
Start simple, keep simple, and don't get hung up on details and detours.
Greg
