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Savage 10FP Build Ideas. Looking for feedback

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I have been looking around for a while at bolt action rifles, primarily for target shooting. After a lot of research, reading reviews, and studying several aspects of long-range shooting, i have finally decided on the most-likely candidates. If anyone has experience with any of the following, I would greatly appreciate your input and/or suggestions. My budget isn't the greatest, but I am looking to get everything for around $2000 or less. This is what I have come up with thus far, as well as the reasons:

Rifle: Savage 10FP (with Accutrigger)
I know there aren't as many aftermarket parts for the Savage as there are for Remington, but I have a friend who owns one, and I thought it shot quite well, especially for being factory.

Scope: SPF Falcon 5-25x56
I was looking to get a FFP scope with a mil-dot reticle because of the ability to estimate target ranges without the use of a range-finder. This fits all said criteria, and isn't going to cost $1500 by itself.

Bi-pod: Harris Engineering 1A2-BR Series 1A2 Bipod
Extending legs, easily mounted, folds up, and they have a pretty good reputation. 6-9 is plenty for my uses.

Stock: Mcmillan A5 Tactical
Adjustable cheek, looks pretty nice (imo), comfortable, relatively light, seemingly an all-around nice stock to replace the factory one.

Rings: Warne 30mm Rings
Cheaper rings. They just need to hold the scope to the rifle, correct? I am not going to be hiking through rough terrain, or putting much stress on the rifle as a whole.

Base: Warne Two-Piece Base
I didn't want to get something too expensive, and this was definitely not expensive. I don't think that I will need a canted base, since I will not be shooting out to 750+ yards for a little while. This is probably the area causing me the most confusion. Would a 1-piece be best? Canted or non? I'm not positive.

If anyone has any suggestions, I will be glad to look into them and check out some other products.
 
#2
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you can get that rifle from the factory in an A5 already. and it will have DBM. you may not need 20 moa. but when you do and its already there, you will be thankful. plus it dont cost any more than 0 moa. but the 2 pc base, tac ops swears by them. i have a 1 pc ferrel. everything else sounds good.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AXEMAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you can get that rifle from the factory in an A5 already. and it will have DBM. you may not need 20 moa. but when you do and its already there, you will be thankful. plus it dont cost any more than 0 moa. but the 2 pc base, tac ops swears by them. i have a 1 pc ferrel. everything else sounds good. </div></div>

I can't find any with the A5 with adjustable cheek though. I may have to sacrifice that adjustable for a lower price. Plus it is nice that it is already bedded, which will save even more. I will have to look a bit more into this, Thanks a lot!
 
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On your rifle pick...
I purchased a Savage FLCP-K. My first day with it, (Yesterday) was my first day ever shooting a Bolt action 308. While sighting in. It was not a challenge to get 3 shoot groups .4 inches center to center at 100 yds. ( a few rounds went through the same hole) with 168 FGGM.
Now, time to see if I can make hits out at distance... stay tuned.
Yea, im pretty satisfied! It's just gonna be a little spendy feeding it FGMM.

 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sjb269</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On your rifle pick...
I purchased a Savage FLCP-K. My first day with it, (Yesterday) was my first day ever shooting a Bolt action 308. While sighting in. It was not a challenge to get 3 shoot groups .4 inches center to center at 100 yds. ( a few rounds went through the same hole) with 168 FGGM.
Now, time to see if I can make hits out at distance... stay tuned.
Yea, im pretty satisfied! It's just gonna be a little spendy feeding it FGMM.

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It sounds like a pretty nice rifle, thanks for the input, and definitely keep me posted
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Thanks!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1shot2kill</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you can send the stock back into mcmillan and have them add the saddle cheekpiece on i think it is around 140.00 </div></div>

I didn't know that. Thanks a lot, I will definitely give them a call later today.
 
#8
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and i dont think its bedded. but they will do that or you can yourself. i think its got a pillar shaved in half. a good skim bed will help any rifle. i cant recall what the A5 guys say, but its kinda bedded i think. still, like everybody said, you can get mcmillan to add the adjustable or get a terry cross logger head. and you can always get a stock pack/pad until you get it done. but the 10fcp in a mcmillan stock is already out there, its almost everything you want and you will have it out of the box new. just have someone find it at their wholesale place of see what bud's guns has them for and pay a $20 transfer fee.
 
#9
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Rifle: Savage 10FP (with Accutrigger)
Yes, there are a lot more aftermarket options for a Remington (new and used). If you are set on a Savage, they do shoot very good.

Bi-pod: Harris Engineering 1A2-BR Series 1A2 Bipod
Not sure on the model but the 6-9 with swivel and notched legs is the one to get.

Stock: Mcmillan A5 Tactical
This is a good option and getting a stock with a adjustable cheek rest is a great idea. You can have a saddle added, but I think the integral with the Terry Cross hardware is the better option. I have heard the saddle cheek rest makes the stock wider and you need to cant you head more to get in alignment. This is why I will be selling my McMillan stock and most likely get a Manners to replace it.

Base: Warne Two-Piece Base
I would get a quality 1 piece with 20 moa slope. That Falcon has about 65 moa of elevation so you will need a sloped base someday.
 
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Axe is right, The Mcmillan doesn't come bedded but from what I understand it's not a standard option on them anyways so you would need it done even if you get one from Mcmillan. Get a 20MOA Ken Farrell base and have a good smith (or if you feel up to it you can do it yourself) bed it and your all set. You'll be under or near your $2000 mark and have one hell of a rifle. You could also do a Karsten adj. cheek piece as well for like $80
 
#11
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Your rifle is at least superficially quite similar to mine.

With the A5 and two-piece bases, I'd suggest you hold off on getting an adjustable cheekpiece install until you can confirm whether you really need one. I didn't with 40/42mm Objectives. As kong as your scope has a liberal amount of elevation adjustment, the 20MOA base slope may even be unnecessary.

I think you'll be very happy. I was, and when I rebarreled with a L-W Stainless 28" 1:8" .260 Rem Savage Varmint Taper barrel, I got even happier.

I found that the McMillan A5 I obtained worked quite well without glassbedding. I deliberately left it unbedded for some time, so friends could try it with their Savages. Everybody liked it. I gave it to a friend and he has since glassbedded it. The rifle shoots 6BR and he shoots like a demon with it at 200yd.

These days, my rifle uses the A3, is McMillan Pillar bedded and uses the KF20MOA base with a 42mm Objective. Objective bell clearance is quite good at around 1/8". But the stcok needs the adjustable cheekrest to work with this setup. The KF is quite high.

Greg
 
#12
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Sounds like a great build! I run a B&C Tactical Medalist stock on my savage, it reduced the recoil over the plastic Choates I tried, in half. Great stock for $200!
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I used a Medalist stock, EGW 20 MOA base, RifleBasix trigger and a Falcon 4-14x on my build. Happy with everything so far.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AXEMAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and i dont think its bedded. but they will do that or you can yourself. i think its got a pillar shaved in half. a good skim bed will help any rifle. i cant recall what the A5 guys say, but its kinda bedded i think. still, like everybody said, you can get mcmillan to add the adjustable or get a terry cross logger head. and you can always get a stock pack/pad until you get it done. but the 10fcp in a mcmillan stock is already out there, its almost everything you want and you will have it out of the box new. just have someone find it at their wholesale place of see what bud's guns has them for and pay a $20 transfer fee. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Snipedogg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Axe is right, The Mcmillan doesn't come bedded but from what I understand it's not a standard option on them anyways so you would need it done even if you get one from Mcmillan. Get a 20MOA Ken Farrell base and have a good smith (or if you feel up to it you can do it yourself) bed it and your all set. You'll be under or near your $2000 mark and have one hell of a rifle. You could also do a Karsten adj. cheek piece as well for like $80 </div></div>

Thanks for the heads up guys, I never would have thought to check if it was bedded. I have a shop near my house that I will have to check out later today and see if they can do it. I definitely don't trust myself to even attempt, so hopefully I won't have to send it anywhere to get it done.
 
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Most shops should be able to do it fairly cheap. It's not a big task for a qualified smith but it could be tricky for a first timer. Glad we could help you!
 
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The savage 10fp with accu-trigger was the first rifle I ever bought for LR shooting (every rifle up that point were all light weight sporter/hunter, or AR platforms). I had owned both rem amd sav hunting rifles, and had been well pleased with the accuracy of both.

You are correct on wanting/needing a stock if you purchase the stripped 10fp. Unless savage has changed their stock - stock???
The factory stock is "flimsy"(sp).

However, the rifle, at least mine, is a tac-driver! Moreover, so far, it seems to like anything I feed it; therefore, I nammed it "Jethro".

I currently run 168gr SMK's through it.

The feel and function of the accu-trigger will spoil you. Every time you pick up another rifle, you miss that "two-stage" feel.

As for scope choice, I can not comment. I can only say that my rifle is accurate out to 1K. So buy you some real clear glass to see that plate move before you even hear the "ding".

I used an EGW 20moa one piece base and Burris X-tac rings with a SS 16x. I agree with the others, you might not need the extra 20moa now, but you can get it for the same money (look at it like insurance).

No disrespect to jdgray, but I bolted mine into a Choate Varment and love it. I do not have mine bedded, just bolted into the two AL V-BLOCKS to Choate specs.

I "think" that the macs' and ais' are beautiful and battle proven, and would love to own one - but $$$ held me back on that.

I also use the Harris pivot with notched legs. Combine the notched legs and pivot, you can switch positions much easier. The BR models seem to be for just that, only shooting off the bench, i.e. staying in one position.

Overall, I think you will be well pleased with your build and will find; as I have, You will continue to collect "more expensive" and ,supposed, "new and improved - better and more accurate" rifles, but I always pull out "Jethro" when I want to feel that rush of the first time I shot longer than 300yds.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sheepdogwbtc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The savage 10fp with accu-trigger was the first rifle I ever bought for LR shooting (every rifle up that point were all light weight sporter/hunter, or AR platforms). I had owned both rem amd sav hunting rifles, and had been well pleased with the accuracy of both.

You are correct on wanting/needing a stock if you purchase the stripped 10fp. Unless savage has changed their stock - stock???
The factory stock is "flimsy"(sp).

However, the rifle, at least mine, is a tac-driver! Moreover, so far, it seems to like anything I feed it; therefore, I nammed it "Jethro".

I currently run 168gr SMK's through it.

The feel and function of the accu-trigger will spoil you. Every time you pick up another rifle, you miss that "two-stage" feel.

As for scope choice, I can not comment. I can only say that my rifle is accurate out to 1K. So buy you some real clear glass to see that plate move before you even hear the "ding".

I used an EGW 20moa one piece base and Burris X-tac rings with a SS 16x. I agree with the others, you might not need the extra 20moa now, but you can get it for the same money (look at it like insurance).

No disrespect to jdgray, but I bolted mine into a Choate Varment and love it. I do not have mine bedded, just bolted into the two AL V-BLOCKS to Choate specs.

I "think" that the macs' and ais' are beautiful and battle proven, and would love to own one - but $$$ held me back on that.

I also use the Harris pivot with notched legs. Combine the notched legs and pivot, you can switch positions much easier. The BR models seem to be for just that, only shooting off the bench, i.e. staying in one position.

Overall, I think you will be well pleased with your build and will find; as I have, You will continue to collect "more expensive" and ,supposed, "new and improved - better and more accurate" rifles, but I always pull out "Jethro" when I want to feel that rush of the first time I shot longer than 300yds.

</div></div>

I am pretty much in the same boat as you were. I have been practicing fundamentals every other day with a 22lr. This will be my first long-range purchase, and I have pretty limited experience with it, but I have shot a few. I have shot my father's 30-30, .223, and 7mm mag. I have gathered a lot of information, and everyone seems pleased with their Savages, so I am sure I will add 1 to that number.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sheepdogwbtc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No disrespect to jdgray, but I bolted mine into a Choate Varment and love it. I do not have mine bedded, just bolted into the two AL V-BLOCKS to Choate specs.

</div></div>

How dare you disrespect me!
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Noting wrong at all with the 2 Choates I tried, very stiff, just as accurate as the B&C(.5-.7moa), just a personal preference. The reduced recoil was a bonus, and really dont get it cause the Choates have a very cushy pad. The B&C materials must soak it up.
 
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there is a place called savage gunsmithing . com and they charge $65 to bed your stock. other places charge over $100 but alot depends on the amount of work done. full pillar or just skim bedded. i did my own bedding for the cost of JBWeld and kiwi shoe polish. its not reallly that hard.
 
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So, what is the primary difference (aside from obviously the compounds) between the different types of bedding? I have heard of fiberglass, skim, and pillar. What are the advantages/disadvantages of each type? Is there a specific type used in certain situations or with certain types of barrels/stocks?
Anyone?
 
#25
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Until the advent of the Accue-Stock, Savages (I believe all of them) came with pillar bedding. The Accue-Stock substitutes a full length bedding block and some rather ingenious clamping technology that makes them both quite rigid and quite consistently accurate. In recent times, probably as stopgap during Accue-Stock development, the original flimsy stocks were also addressed and showed considerable improvement over the original 'tupperware' stocks.

These days there may still be reasons to replace an Accue-Stock, but to my mind, they are now about esthetics or ergonomics. Performance-wise, the new Accue-Stocks are solid.

Greg
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dtkutchu</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone have good experience with a particular canted base? 20MOA should be plenty. </div></div>

I used to have the EGW base. Good base for the money but not a good product overall. The rail is too soft and the screws strip very easily.

I eventually replaced it with a Murphy Precision stainless base and been much happier.

I also have the Savage, but the 16 along with the Choate stock. My only complaint with the Choate is that the Ultimate Sniper version can't have a bottom metal installed. But otherwise, I could blast 0.25MOA groups with it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Snipedogg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey AXE, did you pillar bed yours too or did it already have some in it? </div></div>

mine was an HS stock. its got an aluminum block so i skim bedded with JB weld and it came out great.
 
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