Savage Model 12 LRPV in .223

[Furtaker_.223]

Hello guy's I'm new to this forum. So far I love it. Anywhere you can talk about guns is awsume, and to meet new people.

So,
I recently purchased a Savage model 12 LRPV rifle chambered in .223 and have been trying to work up some great loads. On the break in, using only 55gr FMJ was getting .855 at 100 yards. I know I will get better.
Do any of you gun nuts have one of these rifles? I have been loading up sierra HPBT match with once fired LC brass. Probably a no,no with once fired brass, but it was all I had at the time.
I am using 24g varget and a 205m primer. I have not shot them yet but will try this weekend. I bought an OAL guage, this is the first time I ever used one.
My question is, I am getting 2.86 OAL. Doe's this sound right on this rifle? I gently pushed in the rod till it stopped, then lightly tapped it with my finger nail. Did this 4-5 X and got the same +/- .010 ,
I am assuming I am kissing the lands, DUNNO.
I am told I should be able to shoot .25 MOA @ 100 yards, and .50 @ 200 yards.
If any one of you sharp shooters have this rifle, Do you have any good load data for it? If so, could I get some?
Well, got to load, Again I am looking forward to visiting this site on a regular basis.

 

[pdogdown]

Re: Savage Model 12 LRPV in .223

Savage 12 LPRV 1:9 twist in a McMillan A2 stock with aluminum bedding block. The OAL is to the lands for my chamber. Should be within a few thousandths for someone with the same model rifle. (I used the Hornady tool to find it. Remember each bullet is different).

These are all with once fired LC 09 brass. I have had good luck with it. Better than with the RP or Winchester. Oddly the Fiocchi GFL brass (50 pieces)I have had good luck with also). No pressure signs.

Nosler BT 55g #39526 (not the 250 round Varmint pack ones, I think they are different)/Varget 24.9 OAL 2.332
Pretty foregiving with Varget. I can shoot from 24.6 to 25.9 and still be within 1/2"- One hole at 24.9 though.

Sierra 69 BTHP MK #1380- OAL 2.332 (2.342 to lands). 26.0 Varget (someone else on another forum had the exact same results on another forum, can't remember the name but his lands measurements were within 0.002 of mine. One hole (not a cloverleaf, one hole).

75 A-max's. Using RL15 and Varget I can't seem to get these dialed in. I keep gettin 2 about 1 hole then a flyer from 1/2 to 2" off. They are not keyholing..

so that is positive. Gonna try some viht n140 when I can get some. Recommended from Walt at Berger for the 70s and 73s.

Speaking of which, my initial OCW testing on those is promising. Using Varget, and checking POI I shot 18 rounds inside a quarter with 3 different Varget charges from 24.0, 24.5, and 25.0 (Berger says 24.8 is max, so watch for pressure signs) on both the 9 shots for the 70s and the 9 shots for the 73s. Each of those groups were touching each other (25.0 with the 73s pushed it outside of a nickel).

Gonna do 24.3, 24.5, and 24.7 now to validate and then mess with the lengths. Used 2.340 for the 70 and 2.375 for the 73 which put it at the lands.

Also, I have had better luck with the Nosler CC 77grains then the Amax's oddly enough. I have those shooting 5/16th without playing around with OAL. 24.8 Varget. The bergers both have better Ballistic Coefficients thought so I am gonna just use the rest of the box for foulers.

Email me at jjkuchar at gmail and I can shoot the excel spreadsheet I am using.

Hope this help some people.

 

[pdogdown]

Re: Savage Model 12 LRPV in .223

Here was my xbr8208 update:
Got the load chrony'd with Alpha Master in my wife's Savage 12 LRPV w/factory 26" barrel w/ 1:9 twist in a McMillan A2 stock off the bipod and rear sand bag.
23.8 g XBR over BR4 primer
New Nosler brass with nothing done to prep it.
75g A-MAX

2901 average. 32 ES. 8 SD. over 25 shots.

No pressure signs. I haven't chronied my a-max 25.6 varget load but iirc, backwards from my mil to 600 put me at 2715fps.

Pretty promising stuff. Still pretty windy out but 5 shot groups were in the .2s to .4s. Could have been mostly two's and teens if I had a sled or front rest instead of the bi-pod.

Good stuff.
Justin

Email me and I can send you an excel spreadsheet with everything you need for that rifle almost.

[email protected]

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: Savage Model 12 LRPV in .223

Using a 10FP .223, had the same problems with the 75gr A-Max, which disappeared when we went to the HDY 75gr HPBT Match (Moly), which is a shorter bullet.

75gr A-Max, 2.400" OAL
Mil Brass Match Prep'd
Small Rifle Match Primer
26.5gr (C*) Ramshot Big Game

Sub 1/2MOA at 200yd.

Greg

 

[pdogdown]

Re: Savage Model 12 LRPV in .223

I haven't used any of the ramshot powders. How are they for temp stability Greg?

Justin

 

[Michael]

Re: Savage Model 12 LRPV in .223

Mine is the 1:7 twist and loves 77 and 80 grain sierras with 25 grains varget. Previous owner was disgusted trying to get it to shoot light bullets, so I got it at a bargain price.

 

[Queequeg]

Re: Savage Model 12 LRPV in .223

I have one of these,

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/

Pretty much anything I've run through it is amazingly accurate though the 69 grain SMKs and 52 grain Hornady match bullets have been best!

I've run Varget, BL-C2, W-748, and RL-15 and various SR primers under them with happy results.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: Savage Model 12 LRPV in .223

They seemed OK when I could get them locally, but they're not so available now, so I use the others.