I have a couple AR lowers and Im looking at getting a 12in barrel for a LMT upper. My question is, when I buy the upper, do I have to send it to a class 3 or can it come strait to my door like a normal upper?? second question, Once i register it as a sbr, is the lower I put it on forever a sbr or can i just sell the lower as a lower or swap my sbr upper onto another lower without having to register the second lower??
SBR registration
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Re: SBR registration
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mk443</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a couple AR lowers and Im looking at getting a 12in barrel for a LMT upper. My question is, when I buy the upper, do I have to send it to a class 3 or can it come strait to my door like a normal upper?? second question, Once i register it as a sbr, is the lower I put it on forever a sbr or can i just sell the lower as a lower or swap my sbr upper onto another lower without having to register the second lower??
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1) Yes they can send it to your house as long as its just a barrel or upper.
2) If you have other lowers or stocks and so on, without paperwork.... that can be considered "intent to assemble an unregistered NFA item". Thus landing you in hot water.
3) Once it is a registered lower, it stays that way. You can put other uppers on it as long as you keep the configuration you registered it as at all times. You can sell it but it would have to be transfered by a dealer.
4) You cannot swap a SBR upper to any lower. It has to be on a serialized lower that is tax paid.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mk443</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a couple AR lowers and Im looking at getting a 12in barrel for a LMT upper. My question is, when I buy the upper, do I have to send it to a class 3 or can it come strait to my door like a normal upper?? second question, Once i register it as a sbr, is the lower I put it on forever a sbr or can i just sell the lower as a lower or swap my sbr upper onto another lower without having to register the second lower??
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1) Yes they can send it to your house as long as its just a barrel or upper.
2) If you have other lowers or stocks and so on, without paperwork.... that can be considered "intent to assemble an unregistered NFA item". Thus landing you in hot water.
3) Once it is a registered lower, it stays that way. You can put other uppers on it as long as you keep the configuration you registered it as at all times. You can sell it but it would have to be transfered by a dealer.
4) You cannot swap a SBR upper to any lower. It has to be on a serialized lower that is tax paid.
Re: SBR registration
You can have the upper mailed to your door. Who says it is not for a pistol AR?
Before you put the upper on your lower, you must (I can not stress this enough) file a form one with the ATF. It will take about 4-6 months for approval. After it is approved your lower will be considered a SBR. You can put any upper on it you want but it will still be a registered SBR.
If you sell it. You will be required to transfer it through a class 3 dealer.
It you need any other help on this there is a large section devoted to NFA items on ar15.com
You can have the upper mailed to your door. Who says it is not for a pistol AR?
Before you put the upper on your lower, you must (I can not stress this enough) file a form one with the ATF. It will take about 4-6 months for approval. After it is approved your lower will be considered a SBR. You can put any upper on it you want but it will still be a registered SBR.
If you sell it. You will be required to transfer it through a class 3 dealer.
It you need any other help on this there is a large section devoted to NFA items on ar15.com
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captrichardson
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Re: SBR registration
A Tax Stamp for an SBR is registered to the Lower's serial number, it has nothing to do with the Upper (which has no serial number).
You can do anything you want with a short barreled upper, until you bring it together with a lower. In many cases, having the Upper and Lower under the same roof can constitute "intent". As such unless you want to take your chances with ATF, I would not have a Short Barreled Upper in my possesion unless I have a registered SBR Lower!
In theory, you had better only have as many short barreled Uppers, as you do registered SBR Lowers.
Best of Luck,
M Richardson
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A Tax Stamp for an SBR is registered to the Lower's serial number, it has nothing to do with the Upper (which has no serial number).
You can do anything you want with a short barreled upper, until you bring it together with a lower. In many cases, having the Upper and Lower under the same roof can constitute "intent". As such unless you want to take your chances with ATF, I would not have a Short Barreled Upper in my possesion unless I have a registered SBR Lower!
In theory, you had better only have as many short barreled Uppers, as you do registered SBR Lowers.
Best of Luck,
M Richardson
Late on the submitt as usual!
Re: SBR registration
Unless it's for a pistol lower, but it has to be configured as a pistol. No paperwork for those. If you ever put it on a rifle lower it has to be registered as a SBR. So if You have a AR Pistol it could go on that now, but if not you have to WAIT for your tax stamp.
Unless it's for a pistol lower, but it has to be configured as a pistol. No paperwork for those. If you ever put it on a rifle lower it has to be registered as a SBR. So if You have a AR Pistol it could go on that now, but if not you have to WAIT for your tax stamp.
Re: SBR registration
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mk443</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a couple AR lowers and Im looking at getting a 12in barrel for a LMT upper. My question is, when I buy the upper, do I have to send it to a class 3 or can it come strait to my door like a normal upper?? second question, Once i register it as a sbr, is the lower I put it on forever a sbr or can i just sell the lower as a lower or swap my sbr upper onto another lower without having to register the second lower??
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1) Yes they can send it to your house as long as its just a barrel or upper.
2) If you have other lowers or stocks and so on, without paperwork.... that can be considered "intent to assemble an unregistered NFA item". Thus landing you in hot water.
3) Once it is a registered lower, it stays that way. You can put other uppers on it as long as you keep the configuration you registered it as at all times. You can sell it but it would have to be transfered by a dealer.
4) You cannot swap a SBR upper to any lower. It has to be on a serialized lower that is tax paid. </div></div>
you are wrong,,,he can sell it in state without a dealer, out of state he needs an SOT
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mk443</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a couple AR lowers and Im looking at getting a 12in barrel for a LMT upper. My question is, when I buy the upper, do I have to send it to a class 3 or can it come strait to my door like a normal upper?? second question, Once i register it as a sbr, is the lower I put it on forever a sbr or can i just sell the lower as a lower or swap my sbr upper onto another lower without having to register the second lower??
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1) Yes they can send it to your house as long as its just a barrel or upper.
2) If you have other lowers or stocks and so on, without paperwork.... that can be considered "intent to assemble an unregistered NFA item". Thus landing you in hot water.
3) Once it is a registered lower, it stays that way. You can put other uppers on it as long as you keep the configuration you registered it as at all times. You can sell it but it would have to be transfered by a dealer.
4) You cannot swap a SBR upper to any lower. It has to be on a serialized lower that is tax paid. </div></div>
you are wrong,,,he can sell it in state without a dealer, out of state he needs an SOT
