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Re: Scarier than a gun?

ive got a *real* khukri, and it weighs a lot more than 22 ounces, probably closer to 36, chops like an axe, not the best edge for finer work, but it accompanys me on all my hikes/camping trips. once you get over using an almost 3/8ths wide blade, they become quite useful
 
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Its smaller than a machete, more useful than a hachet by all appearances. Looks like it'd be really great for camping. I'd buy one, not necessarily a cold steel one, but definitely not a $15 from CTD. I'd still pack a small knife and gun though
 
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There are times when a knife can be more effective than a handgun. But I don't get into many phonebooth gunfights.

My Colt Commander is quite a bit easier to pack and much more effective agaist multiple attackers and more importantly against armed attackers.

However, that looks like a heck of a tool.
 
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Just show them the price tag....

650$

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSTARSZ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that is one awesome knife...makes me want to get one to amaze family and friends. </div></div>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ssgp2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just show them the price tag....

650$

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSTARSZ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that is one awesome knife...makes me want to get one to amaze family and friends. </div></div></div></div>

Ouch!!!!
 
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Have one of the "lite" models, works great for clearing shooting lanes or well just about anything ya need cleared out. The coldsteelfomercials are always entertaining.
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Still waiting for the Gurkha edition of the "deadliest warrior"...unless i've missed it already
 
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He didnt have enough for his sandwich yet!<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HPLLC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When that guy worked over that pig with the knife.. I think he got the point across perfectly. He probably could have stopped there.

Geez. </div></div>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Match308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He didnt have enough for his sandwich yet!<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HPLLC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When that guy worked over that pig with the knife.. I think he got the point across perfectly. He probably could have stopped there.

Geez. </div></div> </div></div>

He did look like he could eat a pig. haha I think it's an effective infomercial, but not effective enough to make anyone spend $650 for one of those.

You have to compete with like $30 surplus knives from India.

This Kabar kukri looks like a much better deal. Kabar
 
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It all went downhill after the pig. I dont care about ropes and shit, I want to see bone and meat sliced and diced.

I REALLY want to see them test it out on human cadavers. If they showed me a head being severed in one quick slice I would pull out my credit card right there. Don't get me wrong, my glock 23 would do just fine but can you imagine the look on the responding officers face when he shows up and sees the attacker laying there in nothing but a pile of limbs.
 
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From a Martial Artists point of view that's advertising cool-aid.

I'm wondering how many knives they had to use for that commercial.
I've had several of their knives, not impressed with CS.

Now what's scarier than a gun?

This man, this weapon
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I'm not up to his speed, although I can draw, cut and resheath quite rapidly..

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Cool video. I wondered where they found the guy for the Dos Equis "Most Interesing Man in the World" commercials. Now I know... he's been doing lots of samurai training.

I bet that sword set him back a helluva lot of money. That thing must be wicked sharp.
 
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$120 with a full lifetime warranty, its a 16 inch knife, and that was one swing into a fairly solid tree trunk. Himalayan imports on bladeforums.com...best knife i have ever bought. (the ww2 model) ive seen them selling on the deal of the day for $65.00, bonus? its 110% handmade in nepal by people who know how to make a khukri. mines a bit soft on the temper and doesnt take a razors edge like most, but it has never let me down.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLBubba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cool video. I wondered where they found the guy for the Dos Equis "Most Interesing Man in the World" commercials. Now I know... he's been doing lots of samurai training.

I bet that sword set him back a helluva lot of money. That thing must be wicked sharp. </div></div>

I don't know what kind of sword he uses but he sells Paul Chen swords I believe, anywhere from $250 to $1000

But yeah his is probably a bit more..

I'm going to have a Katana like this for sale soon, $1100 - and that's a fair deal...


As for the original video if you have to run and swing that wildly to cut that much, you are probably using the wrong tool.

Still no fan of Cold Steel - most guys on the Sword forum will tell you to run the other way and buy a Chen - and I think Chen makes one of these as well.
 
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It is strange how the human mind works.

If you look at U.S. gun and knife laws, most states are more restrictive of knives than guns. Many states forbid switchblades, butterfly knives, hidden cane swords, concealed fixed blade knives, or limit the length of blade that can be carried. But in contrast, you can get a concealed carry handgun permit in many states, or open carry a firearm without a permit.

The problem being is that any idiot can pull a trigger and kill someone, as is evident by adolescent gang shootings. But it takes more conviction to kill someone with a knife. Where is the logic or our laws?

Back to the topic at hand, Khukuris...don't fear the knife. Fear the legend behind the knife...the Gurkha solider...or the trained and determined person.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As for the original video if you have to run and swing that wildly to cut that much, you are probably using the wrong tool.</div></div>That Williams video shows poor technique. And notice that he is cutting a dry target instead of bamboo soaked in water. I don't know what he is doing but it's not a martial art, it's not traditional, and it's not hard to cut those targets without proper timing or follow-through.
 
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Having just watched 'The Book of Eli' I am wondering about how to perfect that particular draw with a blade of some 17". The beauty of a fast slicing draw as Arctic knows is the reason anyone who trains in martial arts swordsmanship tries so hard to perfect them. There is no draw and play of toss it back and forth from hand to hand. All business. The rising diagonal slice is the most wicked first move with any blade. One would do well to learn all of the 8 Basic Strikes, as well as the 4 Parrying Strikes(12 Total)
 
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17" blades are wakizashi, which are not difficult to draw. A long, powerful, Shinto period Katana of over 29" is considerably more difficult to work with, not only because of its length but also because of its increased weight and heft compared to a Koto blade.

Iaido does not teach speed, per se. A fast draw is fun to watch, which is why Inagaki and Korosawa incorporated it into their classic masterpiece films. The movie Western followed suit, with the 'high noon' scenario playing over and over again. But, like fast-draw in western movies, real life duels rarely came down to who could out-draw their opponent.

In IPSC the ability to re-holster quickly does little for you. Same with the ability to re-sheath a sword.

The Tameshigiri of the early 1800's was practiced on cadavers, not on live people. And the myth about blades cutting clean through machine-gun barrels likely originated with destructive tameshigiri, the breaking of swords, which came much later.

The proper cut is very difficult to master. I have been working on it for some thirty six years and have come to realize that, in the vast scheme of talent out there, I am still just a beginner who hasn't got it quite right yet.
 
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A guy that knows how to use a knife is somebody to worry about. I've personally trained LEOs in bare hand vs knife techniques. A guy can close 15 yards faster than most people can realize they are being charged, unsnap their holster, draw and fire.

I'm not saying a knife is better than a gun or vice versa, but what I am saying is I wouldn't be so reliant on having a gun to protect you in a close quarters attack.

A guy walking around with a katana or wak would definitely get noticed by LEOs though. lol And I doubt somebody would want to mug the guy with a 17" blade hanging from his belt. ha!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AustinCQC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A guy can close 15 yards faster than most people can realize they are being charged, unsnap their holster, draw and fire.</div></div>The problem is that most knife attacks are not initiated from 21 feet away.
 
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There was a gathering in Colombia Mo. many years ago, with many a different none std class's being given.

Had I not seen it, I'd not believed it could be done. A tire tool from a 55 Chevy hidden under your coat can be drawn and hit a target at 25yds faster than a hidden pistol. The instructor took on all come'rs and was never beaten during those 3 days.

 
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Haven't got through the whole video (in the sand box so it will probably take another hour or two to load). When they show the guy cut through the first set of ribs in slow motion did anybody else notice the blade get hung up on a bone and just tear the rest of the meat instead of cutting through it? The same thing is shown int the clip of the bambo. The knife comes doesn't actually cut through the last bit but the bamboo just breaks and falls itself?

Don't think i'd ever drop any amount of coin on a cold steel let alone 650 for this thing.
 
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there are several clean cuts with the sword on the bamboo mat. plus that guy with the mat has plenty of vids with plenty pf clean cuts. i do like the cold steel stuff. my tanto went thru my 79 buick's door easily
 
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Finaly got through the whole video (about an hour total to load and thats at 3 in the morning when most of the base is sleeping). I don't believe all their claims of outperforming even custom blades. And that fat guy probably isn't the best pokesperson. It looks like he could stand to cut off a few "huge slabs of meat"