Scope riser

[Rifletuner]

I want to try the Kraft scope height coolaid and would like to hear from people who have tried risers. Right now I am struggling to find a riser that I can add on to my existing pic rail / mount, so would like to hear recommendations on something suitable.

Also, what height do people recommend? The few I have found are .5". My current optic centreline from the bore is about 1.8", so I am thinking adding half an inch is probably not a bad starting point. But also open to input on this too.

 

[tsovern]

I have 2 rifles w 2.3-ish inch rise. I'm using the cheap monstrum riser and 1.5" rings. The riser is not confidence inducing, but hasn't shifted yet. I wanted to try the more vertical position, but don't consider the risers to be a permanent solution.
The two rifles are pretty heavy recoiling as far as PRS cartridges go. (7swc w 190s, 308 w 177s).
I certainly think it's worth investigating. If you have astigmatism and correct it w weighted contacts, it can be a game changer. Both of these rifles currently have braked suppressors. The combination of eliminating nearly all muzzle blast and more vertical head position has me seeing shots better than I ever once hoped.
I should probably add that I have slammed the cheek piece all the down, giving me a jaw weld.

 

[Jadazu]

Ditto the above, about seeing better.

Prob the dimension to consider is the hight of the optic centerline above the stock comb and butt heel, or above the cheek/jaw contact point on the stock. For me, using combinations of rails and rings, and keeping the sight height consistent between different field rifles, has been a good thing.

I've been using an upright head posture, and minimal jawline contact with the stock, for a while. I arrived at this with age, and losing flexibility and range of motion. For shooting from field improvised positions, it has been beneficial for me.

For rails, the Stanag grip type rails, are very secure. I've stacked a couple of GG&G rails and they are as good as being welded together. Scalar Works has a side-and-top-grip rail that is super secure. A 1.57" non-cantilevered scope mount and a 1/2" rail or two is high and plenty secure.

 

[gopherslayer]

Weaver/Blackhawk make 1/2” risers. I have a couple of them on ARs. They are full length on an upper.

 

[flogxal]

Frank talked about this at the Nebraska class. I bought 0.25" and 0.50" risers to try out. Last night I set up with the 0.50" riser, made my stock comb adjustments, found it great in dry fire, today went and re-zeroed the scope to the new height. Shot 25 rds through the new setup.

I am happy with this higher position and it does not feel weird or too upright for me. Next week will run it with tripod, off props w/ bag, see how it is there. Thus far just prone and modified prone.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

Buy a new quality mount. Too many poorly machined risers on the market that introduce error into the scope/rifle interface.

Plus you are magnifying any error in the components.

 

[Virginia Shooter]

After viewing Lowlight and Chris' Videos on acheiving a higher higher height over bore, I tried the the Leupold 5/8" riser. Mounted the riser (5 screws at 65 inch pounds each) to my 737. I have a ARC 1.5" one piece scope mount. I calculater height over bore at 3.0". I found it worked very well. It allowed me to keep my head in a more natural upright position. I shot a one day match after installing it and I believe that I saw more hits (and misses). I'll continue to use it through the remainder of the matches I'll shoot this season. The Leupold mount was about $60 and I also noticed that Bobro makes both standard length and extended risers but in the $150-$225 range.

 

[carbonbased]

Bobro seem very well made. I use one on an AR to get about a 2 1/16” height. Used it because I didn’t feel like buying a 1.93” mount without first knowing if I’d like that height.

Looks a little goofy but it feels great! Here’s a buddy shooting it.

 

[flogxal]

When it popped up in AR contexts for guys accommodating night vision, and then people w/o NV needs were doing it, I thought it was just a kooky fad like pet rocks. Not that I tried to smash my eye into the stock comb like Old Man Hunter or anything, but 1.50 mounts worked fine, I thought.

I put one of the 0.25" spacers under the 1.5" mount on one of my ARs and damned if I didn't like it there too.

 

[Baron23]

I think this increased scope over bore height works well for many people....but didn't work well for me.

Now understand, I turn 73 in a few weeks and have three vertebrae in my lumbar fused so my days of acrobatic contortions are over lolol

I tried the Leopold one...and passed it on to another after is just didn't work for me.

This is it and yeah...backwards I believe but needed the scope that far back for eye relief:

Two reasons it didn't work for me:

1. I guess I just have high fashion model cheek bones because I need a VERY high comb position to get behind almost any scope (and I shot clay targets for a long time and all my shotguns needed an adjustable comb set fairly high). I ran out of rise in my Vision chassis comb. Now, yes, I could add some sort of padding/blanket to the comb to get in the eye box but.....well, why?

2. As said, my lumbar doesn't flex as much as it used to....so, higher scope bore means more flex in my back or more flex in my neck (which ain't all that great anymore either! haha).

Now this is me with ARC's 1.42" (extra high) rings. I'm not sure how more "upright" I need to be.....I guess what I'm saying is that whether adding another .5" or more riser will work depends on your physical configuration (e.g. cheek bone to eye relationship) and physical condition.

This looks pretty upright head position to me with just the 1.42" rings.

 

[flogxal]

I would never be mistaken for a model, but my cheekbones are almost right where my eyes are. This may be why lower mounts never felt too "smashed face" to me. I think prone is where neck flexibility and cheekbone location would be the big factors for a taller optic.

 

[Baron23]

I would never be mistaken for a model

lol....me either.

 

[flogxal]

On 2d thought -- maybe a model of what not to do, I seem to fill that role pretty often.

 

[SnowMan]

Tried a couple, I like the Wyoming Arms 1/2" riser. It is @6.5" long so it may not work for some rifles. It definitely is solid.

 

[BobinNC]

PRi AR15 / M16 Flattop Riser 3 Hole

PICATINNY SCOPE MOUNT - YHM-227A

Badger Ordnance also makes a good one, but it's currently out of stock.

 

[crossgun]

I have had great success with the BCM A/T Optic Risers. Definitely a fan of them with the clamping and multiple lengths available.

https://bravocompanyusa.com/optics-iron-sights-and-mounts/a-t-optic-risers/

 

[db2000]

2010. Way ahead of the times lol