Rifle Scopes Scope this rig...

BattleAxe

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    I'm in the middle of a M1A build and I'm ready to order a scope. This will be going on a Springfield National Match M1A with a J. Allen Enterprise G2 stock. I don't want to say that money is no object but given the price of the gun and loaded stock, this is a pricey project no matter how you slice it.

    I already have a Leupold MK4/M3 mounted on my SASS and will say without reservation (regardless of the stories) that this is a very good optic for the price so I'm not against another Leupold...I just don't really want 2 of them for no particular reason.

    Supreme accuracy is my goal out to 1000 and I'm considering a USO SN3. Not sure of USO's warranty but I may be swayed by a lifetime warranty if one offers it and another doesn't. If I could save a few bucks with a SWFA/Niteforce etc. for similar performance I may consider it.


    Go ahead...scope that rig.
     
    #5
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: netranger6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can get PH 3x15 for same price as the Razor HD, F1 or USO. Just keep your eyes peeled here on the hide... </div></div>

    A PH? Not familiar and it doesn't google.????
     
    #9
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    Nearly any of these higher end scopes (S&B, PH, Razor, Nightforce, etc...) will have at least some wait time. It is like this you have to decide what is most important to you in your optic. If you want a scope built the way you want it then USO is the way to go. On the other hand if you want the absolute best glass then S&B, PH, or Zeiss will be the route you want to take. On the other hand if saving some cash while still getting an excellent optic tops your priorities then Nightforce is the route you want to take.

    Remember this is your rifle and you know best how you are going to be using it. We can point you in a direction but it is up to you to figure out what direction is going to work best for you.
     
    #10
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    I like the Mark4 with the M3 knobs on my supermatch. Nothing beats the speed you get when shooting multiple targets at different ranges with those elevation knobs, especially on a semi auto platform.
     
    #11
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ajb008</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like the Mark4 with the M3 knobs on my supermatch. Nothing beats the speed you get when shooting multiple targets at different ranges with those elevation knobs, especially on a semi auto platform. </div></div>

    I have the same glass on my SASS and I agree. The BDC works flawlessly and is perfectly calibrated to .308 match rounds. For the price, you almost can't beat the Mk4. I already have $3800 in this build <span style="font-style: italic">without </span>optics so I'm really torn on this optics choice issue. Does the MK 4 get you out to 1000 yds?..I haven't had time to index mine to see if it will make there.
     
    #12
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Longshot38</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nearly any of these higher end scopes (S&B, PH, Razor, Nightforce, etc...) will have at least some wait time. It is like this you have to decide what is most important to you in your optic. If you want a scope built the way you want it then USO is the way to go. On the other hand if you want the absolute best glass then S&B, PH, or Zeiss will be the route you want to take. On the other hand if saving some cash while still getting an excellent optic tops your priorities then Nightforce is the route you want to take.

    Remember this is your rifle and you know best how you are going to be using it. We can point you in a direction but it is up to you to figure out what direction is going to work best for you. </div></div>

    I suppose the reality is that I can adapt to any good scope so customization isn't exactly something I need...it's more of a "want" thing. The parts for this build are still 4 weeks out so I have a little time to decide. I'm giving Nightforce some serious considration in addition to another Leupold.
     
    #13
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    Yes, the M3 knob that I have for 168gr is calibrated out to 1000. I have yet to shoot mine pass 500yd. The first time I took my rig out there was no wind at all. I sighted in at 200, and immediately to it out to 500 at the range here in Tucson at the range below and it performed flawlessly.
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    #14
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    If you want a USO the wait is never an issue. The SN3 is a kick ass scope and the Custoemr Service on warranty is even better.
    Yes, I own two USO's for a reason. I like them and they are just, well, pretty much 'James Proof' unless placed into a year long deployment. It don't matter how tough it is, it is never James Proof.

    Call USO and see what they have on the shelf. OR the better way to go is make your scope to your exact specs and sit home and wait becasue when it gets ther, man it is better than Christmas. The first time you shoot with it, it is even better
     
    #16
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gunswanted</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Battleaxe, where is that range in Tucson, </div></div>

    That wasn't me
     
    #20
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    Well I bit the bullet today against better judgement and sanity and ordered a USO SN3 TPAL 3.2x17 with Mil Scale GAP reticle and US#1 1/10mil windage and elevation. Now the wait begins. The build this is going on will be complete by mid May and it will have to sit naked for a few months beyond that.
     
    #27
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    I still have about a 12 week window in which to change my options before it goes into production and just wanted to get my order in line. I believe the right side windage is necessary due to the left side parrallex. I'm used to that set-up but may change it if there's some advantage in doing so. Now that I think about it, I could already see one advantage in not having to disrupt your firing hand position to make windage corrections.
     
    #29
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">do you shoot right handed?
    if you do you hold or dial windage?
    If you dial your windage...you have your answer.... </div></div>
    I see your point. I'm still a rookie in the optic sense so I'm sure I'll tweak this order.
     
    #30
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BattleAxe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">do you shoot right handed?
    if you do you hold or dial windage?
    If you dial your windage...you have your answer.... </div></div>
    I see your point. I'm still a rookie in the optic sense so I'm sure I'll tweak this order. </div></div>

    The funny thing is how many DONT do it that way. US Optics seems to be ALL about the customer.
     
    #31
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The funny thing is how many DONT do it that way. US Optics seems to be ALL about the customer. </div></div>

    Yea, they've been excellent. I initially was apprehensive about the wait but I can see the advantage in being able to adjust your order over time to get exactly what you wan't as your opinions change. Problem is that I have a gut feeling that my $2k scope is going to be $3K by the time I'm done with it
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