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Scratch another B17

Re: Scratch another B17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Inspector Gadget</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn. I ponied up for a ride on this plane a few years back during one of its stops in Seattle. Amazing to ride with the ghosts of those who flew her in combat.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...7-plane-crash-pictures,0,3672607.photogallery </div></div>

That's a shame. Glad no one was hurt though. I took my family to the New England air museum last month. No B17's but they did have a B25 and a B29. I've never seen a 2 year old's eyes get as wide as they did when we walked into the B29 hanger.
 
Re: Scratch another B17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Inspector Gadget</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn. I ponied up for a ride on this plane a few years back during one of its stops in Seattle. Amazing to ride with the ghosts of those who flew her in combat.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...7-plane-crash-pictures,0,3672607.photogallery </div></div>

909 has been around the Seattle area a very long time but just saw THIS particular aircraft here not too long ago. Strange I can tell the aircraft apart by the timing on the engines/props. I ran outside and yep, knew it was not 909...

This is the one I took a spin in 10 years ago:

no9_3.jpg

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Wonder if they were strictly built for military use or were they adapted from something like a martin 404 or a DC3? Either way its a shame to lose a piece of history like that.
 
Re: Scratch another B17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Inspector Gadget</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn. I ponied up for a ride on this plane a few years back during one of its stops in Seattle. Amazing to ride with the ghosts of those who flew her in combat.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...7-plane-crash-pictures,0,3672607.photogallery </div></div>

909 has been around the Seattle area a very long time but just saw THIS particular aircraft here not too long ago. Strange I can tell the aircraft apart by the timing on the engines/props. I ran outside and yep, knew it was not 909...

This is the one I took a spin in 10 years ago:

no9_3.jpg

no9_1.jpg

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I landed my Yak 55 behind one of these in Livermore 4yrs ago. The amount of prop wash coming off of that sucker was awesome! I was rocking and rolling as I came over the fence! The crowd that was waiting for her thought I was part of the show so I opened the canopy and waved as I taxied by :)
 
Re: Scratch another B17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goldie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wonder if they were strictly built for military use or were they adapted from something like a martin 404 or a DC3? Either way its a shame to lose a piece of history like that. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wikipedia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The prototype B-17, designated Model 299, was designed by a team of engineers led by E. Gifford Emery and Edward Curtis Wells and built at Boeing's own expense.[11] It combined features of the experimental Boeing XB-15 bomber with the Boeing 247 transport airplane</div></div>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Emilio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I live about 2 miles from Burbank airport and I am very lucky to see a B-17, B-24 and a P-51 fly over the house every once in a while. </div></div>

A friend of the family used to fly the "909" B-17 and the "Witchcraft" B-24 for the Collings Foundation. He just retired from flying with them after many years. This is the same group that flies around in the LA area on their show circuit. They also own the "Betty Jane" P-51C Mustang you've seen. Jay Leno did a show with all 3 of these planes a couple of years ago.

The Liberty Belle had recently (not sure how recently) had some of the fuel tanks replaced. Apparently, over the past weekend a fuel leak was found and the airplane was grounded for "maintenance". On the B-17, each engine has it's own fuel supply. The outboard engines have a single large tank and the inboards each have two smaller tanks plumbed together. There are also a number of fuel transfer lines and vent lines running through the wings (in hard to reach spaces), so lots of opportunity for fuel leaks.

The plane was supposed to make a press flight during the weekend but that didn't happen. On Monday morning the plane was being ferried to the next stop when it caught fire behind the #2 (left inboard) engine (the engine itself did not burn). Each engine nacelle has a large fire extinguisher installed that can be activated from the cockpit, but since the fire wasn't in the engine I'm not sure how effective it would have been in this case.

The pictures of it on fire show that the propeller on #2 engine is feathered indicating that the engine had been shut down in flight. From all of the pictures I've seen it's obvious that the pilot did an outstanding job of landing the plane under some pretty adverse conditions (one engine out, while on fire, on a plowed corn field, between some trees and power lines, etc.) allowing everyone on board to escape.