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Taking a cruise with a$$holes.........................

lonegunman762x51

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So, my wife and I just finished 15 days on a Viking death barge travelling the oceans blue. I am 60 and I was easily 30-40 years younger than 98% of the ship. Apparently, the Viking ship is literally a Viking ship, packed with corpses and set off into the ocean to be set aflame and send these geezers to Valhalla, hahahaha. When we got to the airport they had a 100 year old woman in a wheelchair they were rolling towards the gates, she took a 160 day around the world cruise and I doubt she was aware of it.

Here's the story. Several months ago we had friends ask us if we could join them on a cruise, they are nice enough and the husband is a decent enough guy with a slightly cuck relationship with his wife. We had know them for years, she is an over-educated, retired know-it-all from a family of over-educated assholes who have not had success at anything but college classes. She is 15 years older than her husband (it turns out) and has had very little success in any career and she has had three. As she fails, she returns to school and acquires another masters or PHd and heads into another field to be marginal. She is so much smarter than the rest of us that we simply do not understand how fucking brilliant she is, no kidding.

I had speculated to my bride that there may be a reason they have a hard time finding "friends" to cruise with. We wanted to do the first adventure of this sort and figured it would be easier with friends who knew the ropes. Hahahaha, what a mistake. We flew from two separate airports because we live near two different major airports and met them on the ship. Things started going downhill when the Bitch asked my wife what books she had read lately? My wife was finishing a book on Christianity in Great Britian during the early period. Bitch says, "My father said religion is for people with weak minds, you don 't believe that crap do you?" And then she goes into an hour rant on how God is not real.

The next day we tour several museums and enjoy a walk around London. Trouble starts when my step counter on my Samsung phone says I have walked farther than her fucking husband. She believes they walk farther than us and the extra steps I walk when I wander off to look at various displays or admire the view are measured at a higher rate than her husband's shitty Apple watch. Over the course of the next ten days, this becomes a serious problem for her and a source of constant irritation.

It agitates this bitch so much, that before we meet them for the daily excursion, I go walk two laps of the ship before we meet them. This gives me 1/2 mile of additional distance/steps and this fucker cannot catch up, hahahahahaha.

They only go on recommended ship excursions, no shopping, no wandering to see sites unaccompanied. We gladly take the extra bus ride to go see stuff we like or the local shops. We took a side trip to Dover Castle and spent the afternoon wandering the place, hell we saw a Spitfire flying over the castle in what was one of my favorite memories of the trip. Sadly, the plane didn't show up well in pictures. But, an actual Spitfire flying over an actual critical WWII base in actual England, how cool is that???

Two days later, this bitch asks me if I felt we should have nuked the Japanese in WWII? I said, "Yes" and cited the reasons including their refusal to surrender and their plans to fight to the death as a nation. She exploded, she hates Truman, she hates America, she fucking knows they would have surrendered if America had filmed the nuke tests and then sent the film to Japan for them to review. I cited their war crimes, the torture and murder of American POW's and civilians, the enslavement of Koreans and Chinese for labor and sexual slavery, the Japanese habit of beheading prisoners and conduct against cities like Nanking. Essentially, they were evil, violent, racist and unreasonable and they got what they deserved. After a tantrum and admitting she knew nothing of their conduct during the war, she fled the room. The next morning at breakfast she tried to argue with my wife to make her point. My wife declined and told her to try it with me instead, lol.

After she got mad, they started missing us on tours or getting on the other bus, we really did not care. They preferred eating in the restaurant and we preferred the self serve cafe, two different floors on the boat, thankfully. We did join them for dinner a couple of times, they refuse to eat beef, pork, chicken or seafood or whatever the special of the day was at wherever they ate and thus they require something special. They are kinda vegan, they lack some enzymes or some such shit and require extra effort at every meal. Every time the husband got a plate of food, she stole stuff and picked off his plate uninvited.

As a special treat, this fucking woman wears flip flops to the formal dining area and washes her feet with the cloth napkin at dinner. No shit, this one is impossible to make up. She has feet like a dairy cow, being over-educated is no reason for decent hygiene anyway. So during the meal she is complaining how her feet were swelling in her orthopedic shoes from the days walking so she switched to ghetto grade shower shoes for dinner. She then asks the waitress for a cup of ice and when it arrives she uses the napkin to rub the ice on her hooves during the meal. We parted before dessert was offered and headed away from them. From this point on we stayed away from each other as much as possible.

Fast forward five days to the last night of the trip. I get a text from the husband that says, "Sorry you turned out not to be compatible travel friends, good luck on your future travels, we have canceled any future plans with you." I replied, "Yes, we decided to do the same thing and I canceled our future plans a week ago." And blocked them.

The trip was fun when they were not around, people talked to us when they were not around. We had dinner with people other than them and had a wonderful time. We did excursions with people other than them and had fun.

Now, what about Viking? They were great at the airport and we got a cab to the ship. The downside was the van driver had no idea Viking was a cruise line and he was looking for a boat. He drove around for an extra hour before he got the courage to ask if we were going to a hotel.

Viking does include damn near everything in the total cost, nothing was extra except tips and selected tours. The restaurants serve versions of the food in the "World Cafe" so there is no reason to go to them unless you have brought to many nice dress shirts, they are filled with the same elderly people as everything else. They even had an old drunk bastard who loved dressing like Joe Biden and talking leftist politics to loudly.

The room was nice, smaller than you might think and the balcony was great for sitting watching the boat leave port or whatever. They kept it spotless and we tipped our stateroom attendants extra since they went the extra mile. I had them do a little laundry, socks washed 50 cents each, lol. It came back clean, folded and in a gift box.

Viking is also a great cruise if you have dementia, are crippled or aged or have serious mobility issues. We saw several people who probably had no idea why there was an ocean so close to their bedroom. If you are aged and no space is available in the retirement home, for the same, $8-10K a month you can ship granny on a trip around the world. About 50% of the ship cannot walk at 2 miles per hour or climb stairs. So you have to sift thru them to find people who can enjoy the walks and trips and maybe chat with over dinner.

The most entertaining part of the trip is the elevators, there are two sets of four elevators, so when you stand waiting for a ride, any one of them will ding. 90% of the time it is behind you. We had an old guy on our deck who missed his elevator EVERY single time. "DING!" and he starts looking for the door to open, it opens behind him to the left, he looks behind him to the right, the door closes and elevator moves on. He pushes the button, a min later,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"DING!" and he looks front left, it opens front right and closes before he moves. Every morning he was stuck at the elevators. We said, "Good Morning" and held the door for him when he was trapped there and we saw him. It became a habit to get this poor guy to breakfast before he starved.

Update: There are two or three videos of the cruise on YouTube now. There was a weird couple of "bloggers" with 156 followers filming their every adventure and making the crews life a hell by constantly asking for access to people or places on the boat or walking around with that stupid "selfie stick" poking it thru the crowd to film themselves. And a guy who lives on the Thames and videos ships coming and going. Canceling the next trip was as easy as booking it, maybe more so. While more travel in retirement is still the plan, these miserable people have really put my wife off cruising. It will take some time to repair that problem. After a month to think about it, I still enjoyed the cruise. The cabin was smallish, but I enjoy my truck camper and it was bigger than that.

The longest line I waited in was maybe 8-10 people long the entire two weeks. The food was very nice all the time. Every meal had something different to try, they always had good sushi and baked goods. Tea time was handy if you got back to the boat in time and were starving. There were several groups of people who all came from the same city or state and had become fast friends so they had plenty of fun together. We met two retired Air Force navigators who lived a few miles away from us at the Greenwich Observatory. We were all polite, but they were officers and I retired a SNCO so they had zero interest in even dining together, it was mutual so no worries.

Viking does a great job getting you off the ship too. Busses to the airport were on time and they had staff in the dozens to get you and your luggage to the check-in on time. There was one single south Asian guy who reeked of dry piss and stale unwashed pussy so bad he would gag people. He about choked a few people at lunch one day and I was making a face and looking away when an older guy asked me, "Can you smell that?" I nodded, he said, "My wife is turning green." and chuckled. Then he mentioned it to a ship's officer who came by. The next day the stinker was odor free. No drama, it was just addressed and corrected.

If you hate long miserable lines, do not require a casino, orgy, drunk young people and Vegas style entertainment to travel they are a good choice. Everything you needed to enjoy the trip, except the post trip tip, was really included. Except travel companions and you need to choose them carefully.



The things you learn about people when you spend time with them are surprising, lol.
 
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So, my wife and I just finished 15 days on a Viking death barge travelling the oceans blue. I am 60 and I was easily 30-40 years younger than 98% of the ship. Apparently, the Viking ship is literally a Viking ship, packed with corpses and set off into the ocean to be set aflame and send these geezers to Valhalla, hahahaha. When we got to the airport they had a 100 year old woman in a wheelchair they were rolling towards the gates, she took a 160 day around the world cruise and I doubt she was aware of it.

Here's the story. Several months ago we had friends ask us if we could join them on a cruise, they are nice enough and the husband is a decent enough guy with a slightly cuck relationship with his wife. We had know them for years, she is an over-educated, retired know-it-all from a family of over-educated assholes who have not had success at anything but college classes. She is 15 years older than her husband (it turns out) and has had very little success in any career and she has had three. As she fails, she returns to school and acquires another masters or PHd and heads into another field to be marginal. She is so much smarter than the rest of us that we simply do not understand how fucking brilliant she is, no kidding.

I had speculated to my bride that there may be a reason they have a hard time riding "friends" to cruise with. We wanted to do the first adventure of this sort and figured it would be easier with friends who knew the ropes. Hahahaha, what a mistake. We flew from two separate airports because we live near two different major airports and met them on the ship. Things started going downhill with the Bitch asked my wife what books she had read lately? My wife was finishing a book on Christianity in Great Britian during the early period. Bitch says, "My father said religion is for people with weak minds, you don 't believe that crap do you?" And then she goes into an hour rant on how God is not real.

The next day we tour several museums and enjoy a walk around London. Trouble starts when my step counter on my Samsung watch says I have walked farther than her fucking husband. She believes they walk farther than us and the extra steps I walk when I wander off to look at various displays or admire the view are measured at a higher rate than her husband's shitty Apple watch. Over the course of the next ten days, this becomes a serious problem for her and a source of constant irritation.

It agitates this bitch so much, that before we meet them for the daily excursion that I go walk two laps of the ship before we meet them. This gives me 1/2 mile of additional distance and this fucker cannot catch up, hahahahahaha.

They only go on recommended ship excursions, we gladly take the extra bus ride to go see shit we like. We took a side trip to Dover Castle and spent the afternoon wandering the place, hell we saw a Spitfire flying over the castle in what was one of my favorite memories of the trip. Sadly, the plane didn't show up well in pictures. But, an actual Spitfire flying over an actual critical WWII base in actual England, how cool is that???

Two days later, this bitch asks me if I felt we should have nuked the Japanese in WWII? I said, "Yes" and cited the reasons including their refusal to surrender and their plans to fight to the death as a nation. She exploded, she hates Truman, she hates America, she fucking knows they would have surrendered if America had filmed the nuke tests and then sent the film to Japan for them to review. I cited their war crimes, the torture and murder of American POW's and civilians, the enslavement of Koreans and Chinese for labor and sexual slavery, the Japanese habit of beheading prisoners and conduct against cities like Nanking. Essentially, they were evil, violent, racist and unreasonable and they got what they deserved. After a tantrum and admitting she knew nothing of their conduct during the war, she fled the room. The next morning at breakfast she tried to argue with my wife to make her point. My wife declined and told her to try it with me instead, lol.

After she got mad, they started missing us on tours or getting on the other bus, we really did not care. They preferred eating in the restaurant and we preferred the self serve cafe, two different floors on the boat, thankfully. We did join them for dinner, they refuse to eat beef, or chicken or seafood or whatever the special of the day ws at where ever they eat and thus they require something special.

As a special treat, this fucking woman wears flip flops to the formal dining area and washes her feet with the cloth napkin at dinner. No shit, this one is impossible to make up. She has feet like a dairy cow, being over-educated is no reason for decent hygiene anyway. So during the meal she is complaining how her feet were swelling in her orthopedic shoes from the days walking so she switched to ghetto grade shower shoes for dinner. She then asks the waitress for a cup of ice and when it arrives she uses the napkin to rub the ice on her hooves during the meal. We parted before dessert was offered and headed away from them. From this point on we stayed away from each other as much as possible.

Fast forward five days to the last night of the trip. I get a text that says, "Sorry we turned out not to be compatible travel friends, good luck on your future travels, we have canceled any future plans with you." I replied, "Yes, we decided to do the same thing and I canceled our future plans a week ago." And blocked them.

The trip was fun when they were not around, people talked to us when they were not around. We had dinner with people other than them and had a wonderful time. We did excursions with people other than them and had fun.

Now, what about Viking? They were great at the airport and we got a cab to the ship. The downside was the van driver had no idea Viking was a cruise line and he was looking for a boat. He drove around for an hour before he got the courage to ask if we were going to a hotel.

Viking does include damn near everything in the total cost, nothing was extra except tips and selected tours. The restaurants serve versions of the food in the "World Cafe" so there is no reason to go to them unless you have brought to many nice dress shirts, they are filled with the same elderly people as everything else. They even had an old drunk bastard who loved dressing like Joe Biden and talking leftist politics to loudly.

The room was nice, smaller than you might think and the balcony was great for sitting watching the boat leave port or whatever. They kept it spotless and we tipped our stateroom attendants extra since they went the extra mile. I had them do a little laundry, socks washed 50 cents each, lol. It came back clean, folded and in a gift box.

The things you learn about people when you spend time with them are surprising, lol.
I can't imagine going anywhere with a woman like that, knowing in advance what she was like. But, I think we've all done it before. It only takes once to wise up and it's a good lesson to learn and never repeat.

The wife and I are headed back to Switzerland, France, Austria and Germany in September. We haven't been since CV-19 first hit and are really looking forward to it.

We did make the mistake of traveling in Europe with "friends" once. Never again. Found out how much of a little bitch/attention whore he was. His wife was a dear sweet lady and put up with nothing but shit from him. It was hard to watch.

The wife and I travel light and fast. Once we are on the ground/off the plane, it's trains, Postal busses and ferries everywhere we go. We know our way around and are extremely efficient/proficient with our travel. No tours whatsoever. We see more in two or three weeks than most people do in a lifetime.
 
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So, my wife and I just finished 15 days on a Viking death barge travelling the oceans blue. I am 60 and I was easily 30-40 years younger than 98% of the ship. Apparently, the Viking ship is literally a Viking ship, packed with corpses and set off into the ocean to be set aflame and send these geezers to Valhalla, hahahaha. When we got to the airport they had a 100 year old woman in a wheelchair they were rolling towards the gates, she took a 160 day around the world cruise and I doubt she was aware of it.

Here's the story. Several months ago we had friends ask us if we could join them on a cruise, they are nice enough and the husband is a decent enough guy with a slightly cuck relationship with his wife. We had know them for years, she is an over-educated, retired know-it-all from a family of over-educated assholes who have not had success at anything but college classes. She is 15 years older than her husband (it turns out) and has had very little success in any career and she has had three. As she fails, she returns to school and acquires another masters or PHd and heads into another field to be marginal. She is so much smarter than the rest of us that we simply do not understand how fucking brilliant she is, no kidding.

I had speculated to my bride that there may be a reason they have a hard time riding "friends" to cruise with. We wanted to do the first adventure of this sort and figured it would be easier with friends who knew the ropes. Hahahaha, what a mistake. We flew from two separate airports because we live near two different major airports and met them on the ship. Things started going downhill with the Bitch asked my wife what books she had read lately? My wife was finishing a book on Christianity in Great Britian during the early period. Bitch says, "My father said religion is for people with weak minds, you don 't believe that crap do you?" And then she goes into an hour rant on how God is not real.

The next day we tour several museums and enjoy a walk around London. Trouble starts when my step counter on my Samsung watch says I have walked farther than her fucking husband. She believes they walk farther than us and the extra steps I walk when I wander off to look at various displays or admire the view are measured at a higher rate than her husband's shitty Apple watch. Over the course of the next ten days, this becomes a serious problem for her and a source of constant irritation.

It agitates this bitch so much, that before we meet them for the daily excursion that I go walk two laps of the ship before we meet them. This gives me 1/2 mile of additional distance and this fucker cannot catch up, hahahahahaha.

They only go on recommended ship excursions, we gladly take the extra bus ride to go see shit we like. We took a side trip to Dover Castle and spent the afternoon wandering the place, hell we saw a Spitfire flying over the castle in what was one of my favorite memories of the trip. Sadly, the plane didn't show up well in pictures. But, an actual Spitfire flying over an actual critical WWII base in actual England, how cool is that???

Two days later, this bitch asks me if I felt we should have nuked the Japanese in WWII? I said, "Yes" and cited the reasons including their refusal to surrender and their plans to fight to the death as a nation. She exploded, she hates Truman, she hates America, she fucking knows they would have surrendered if America had filmed the nuke tests and then sent the film to Japan for them to review. I cited their war crimes, the torture and murder of American POW's and civilians, the enslavement of Koreans and Chinese for labor and sexual slavery, the Japanese habit of beheading prisoners and conduct against cities like Nanking. Essentially, they were evil, violent, racist and unreasonable and they got what they deserved. After a tantrum and admitting she knew nothing of their conduct during the war, she fled the room. The next morning at breakfast she tried to argue with my wife to make her point. My wife declined and told her to try it with me instead, lol.

After she got mad, they started missing us on tours or getting on the other bus, we really did not care. They preferred eating in the restaurant and we preferred the self serve cafe, two different floors on the boat, thankfully. We did join them for dinner a couple of times, they refuse to eat beef, or chicken or seafood or whatever the special of the day was at wherever they ate and thus they require something special. They are kinda vegan, they lack some enzymes or some such shit and require extra effort at every meal. Every time the husband got a plate of food, she stole stuff and picked off his plate uninvited.

As a special treat, this fucking woman wears flip flops to the formal dining area and washes her feet with the cloth napkin at dinner. No shit, this one is impossible to make up. She has feet like a dairy cow, being over-educated is no reason for decent hygiene anyway. So during the meal she is complaining how her feet were swelling in her orthopedic shoes from the days walking so she switched to ghetto grade shower shoes for dinner. She then asks the waitress for a cup of ice and when it arrives she uses the napkin to rub the ice on her hooves during the meal. We parted before dessert was offered and headed away from them. From this point on we stayed away from each other as much as possible.

Fast forward five days to the last night of the trip. I get a text from the husband that says, "Sorry we turned out not to be compatible travel friends, good luck on your future travels, we have canceled any future plans with you." I replied, "Yes, we decided to do the same thing and I canceled our future plans a week ago." And blocked them.

The trip was fun when they were not around, people talked to us when they were not around. We had dinner with people other than them and had a wonderful time. We did excursions with people other than them and had fun.

Now, what about Viking? They were great at the airport and we got a cab to the ship. The downside was the van driver had no idea Viking was a cruise line and he was looking for a boat. He drove around for an hour before he got the courage to ask if we were going to a hotel.

Viking does include damn near everything in the total cost, nothing was extra except tips and selected tours. The restaurants serve versions of the food in the "World Cafe" so there is no reason to go to them unless you have brought to many nice dress shirts, they are filled with the same elderly people as everything else. They even had an old drunk bastard who loved dressing like Joe Biden and talking leftist politics to loudly.

The room was nice, smaller than you might think and the balcony was great for sitting watching the boat leave port or whatever. They kept it spotless and we tipped our stateroom attendants extra since they went the extra mile. I had them do a little laundry, socks washed 50 cents each, lol. It came back clean, folded and in a gift box.

Viking is a great cruise if you have dementia, are crippled or aged or have serious mobility issues. We saw several people who probably had no idea why there was an ocean so close to their bedroom. If you are aged and not space is available in the home, for the same, $8-10K a month you can ship granny on a trip around the world. About 50% of the ship cannot walk at 2 mile per hour or climb stairs. So you have to sift thru them to find people who can enjoy the walks and trips and maybe chat with over dinner.

The most entertaining part of the trip is the elevators, there are two sets of four elevators, so when you stand waiting for a ride, any one of them will ding. 90% of the time it is behind you. We had an old guy on our deck who missed his elevator EVERY single time. "DING!" and he starts looking for the door to open, it opens behind him to the left, he looks behind him to the right, the door closes and elevator moves on. He pushes the button, a min later,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"DING!" and he looks front left, it opens front right and closes before he moves. Every morning he was stuck at the elevators. We said, "Good Morning" and held the door for him when he was trapped there and we saw him.








The things you learn about people when you spend time with them are surprising, lol.
If you take anything longer than a 7 day cruise the passenger population becomes older and older. 15 days....yeah, what younger people are taking off more than two weeks for a cruise very often if at all. Same as an 11 day one I was on once.

However, with shorter cruises and younger people you also often get kids...lots of fucking kids. I think I would rather be boiled alive than go on Carnival or Disney cruises.

The other couple sound really fucking atrocious. Glad you were able to get away from them some and the trip was not a total loss.

Cheers
 
Just a note, we did not know she was this bad in advance. She can pretend to be nice for a day or two. This trip she made no effort to be decent, right from the gate she was a bitch.
Yeah, not picking on you. BTDT, got the T-shirt.

But.......the more egregious they are, the longer the impression lasts and the longer a person will remember to never do "that" again. Probably just like you, we've not made that same mistake twice.

When people first start traveling (and not knowing the ropes/their way around) it's usually a tense situation. When the wife and I first started, it was. After learning most of the "in's and out's", it's become very pleasurable/very low stress.

Funniest thing that happened to us was on one of our first trips to Switzerland. We got into the train station in Luzern. We had to transfer to another train to get to Interlaken. We saw what we thought was the Interlaken train leaving the station, so we jumped on (while it was moving......a big no-no). The train was actually going out of service and all the lights were off in the cabin (big clue). The train comes to an immediate halt, a yard employee jumps on and says "what the hell are you doing ?" We told him we wanted to go to Interlaken. He just rolled his eyes and said "get off, go two platforms over and get on number xxx". We did. We also found out that trains from Luzern to Interlaken depart every thirty minutes over the course of 18 hours, every day.

You live, you learn........ :eek: :rolleyes: :ROFLMAO:
 
"So, my wife and I just finished 15 days on a Viking death barge travelling the oceans blue." Oh man 🤣.
How true is what you said about "
"The things you learn about people when you spend time with them are surprising"
Wow, you and that bitch were polar opposites. You and your wife handled the situation exceptionally well by distancing yourselves from this cunt and her cuck husband.
Her wonderful opinions on God and the nuking of Japan, I'm sure we're greatly influenced by her college professors. Just a hilarious story.
 
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Great story.
Sorry they were such a buzzkill. Should have told the cuck to put a leash on his bitch. Totally breaks the ice.

We need to party.
My wife don't clean her feet at the table, hahaha.
That totally would have put me one the offensive and I would have been brutal.
 
I am curious. How did these over-educated bovines get to be your friends in the first place?

In other words, if you knew they were egotistical hemorrhoids in the first place then why agree to the trip?

I'm not trying to start an argument or add to your misery. I'm just curious.
 
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Sooo, was the foot cleaning ho hot? Cause .....you know....there could be exceptions....🤣


Honestly don't think I'd have made it through the foot cleaning at the table part. That's disgusting.
Sorry man, sounds you made the best of it tho....
 
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Yeah avoid Viking unless you are on your deathbed and want a Viking funeral. I went on Viking for a 10 day cruise to the Caribbean. They were wheeling them on in wheel chairs. There were people celebrating their 75th anniversary......75th think about it.
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For the life of me I cannot understand why people take trips on a floating sardine can.
For about the same price you can rent a decent boat and do the things you want on your own pace.
Sure you'll have to pay for gas/diesel and make your own meals....but to not deal with random people should be a blessing in it's self.
To think, you could fish and scuba dive where ever YOU want, when ever YOU want.
I've spent probably thousands of hours on boats and traveled thousands of miles.....never once was it on a party barge.
Not to say no drinking or nudity was involved....oh no, I'm a good boy.
 
I would not have suffered silently through the "foot wiping at dinner episode." I would have informed her that we are in a dining venue not a hog shed, and that she should return to her cabin to tend her feet.
 
When I got back from.my first deployment, several friends and I took a Carribean cruise, it was a blast but we all got wretched sunburns while snorkling on a private beach owned by Royal Carribean
 
I only recall taking a vacation with friends twice.

First one was a 3-4 day shot to Vegas. We were all there to gamble so we honestly didn't spend a whole lot of.time together.

Second one was a camping trip a couple states away. At one point, I remember uttering the words "you touch my son again and the only thing that's gonna beat you to the hospital is the headlights of the ambulance you're on." Rest of that trip went pretty well actually.

My view on friends vacation is pretty much "no". People gel differently as friends on limited time frames. Start depending more time and you may not be do friendly. Hate to lose a friendship over that.
 
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My wife found out just how miserable her Mom can get.

We took the kids to universal studios for the 3rd time, and she had about 100k miles with American. For us they want about 250k miles per ticket MT to FL, but ND to FL was only about 30k. So she bought her Mom and husband at the time tickets since it was "free".


She forgot that her Mom only likes 2 restaurants. Red Lobster and Texas Roadhouse. Every time we went to a good local seafood place she complained non-stop. Then we go to a red lobster and it's different than Fargo and the lobster isn't good...

That husband is now her ex, that she's having a fun time divorcing because he disappeared in the middle of the night after he got back on meth. I'm pretty sure he was coming down on the FL trip as he was miserable and sweating the entire time.
That was the 3rd husband, and she's got another on the hook now.


Family might be worse than friends because you have to see them again...
 
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Viking is a great cruise if you have dementia, are crippled or aged or have serious mobility issues. We saw several people who probably had no idea why there was an ocean so close to their bedroom
Great storytelling overall man, glad you had some fun out of it. That quoted part sent me - that is fucking funny
 
went ballistic because you had more steps than her husband. You’re right, you can’t make this shit up. Glad you survived.

My idea of a cruise, under the sails of a sloop with your’s truly as captain. And determiner of the itinerary.
 
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My wife lives in a skilled nursing facility. Likely, she will live the rest of her life there and we will not be able to travel like that, though we wanted to.

But reading the adventures makes me feel like we were there. Bon voyage on your next adventure.
 
My sister gave us an Alaska cruise, a number of years ago. It was a 'family reunion' and our first cruise ever. Norwegian cruise lines. 1 week trip, and it was truly fantastic.

Way different than that described above.... thankfully.

Never been on a cruise line, But I have heard nothing but how outstanding their Seattle to Alaska cruise is from everyone I have talked to that have taken it.
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So, my wife and I just finished 15 days on a Viking death barge travelling the oceans blue. I am 60 and I was easily 30-40 years younger than 98% of the ship. Apparently, the Viking ship is literally a Viking ship, packed with corpses and set off into the ocean to be set aflame and send these geezers to Valhalla, hahahaha. When we got to the airport they had a 100 year old woman in a wheelchair they were rolling towards the gates, she took a 160 day around the world cruise and I doubt she was aware of it.

Here's the story. Several months ago we had friends ask us if we could join them on a cruise, they are nice enough and the husband is a decent enough guy with a slightly cuck relationship with his wife. We had know them for years, she is an over-educated, retired know-it-all from a family of over-educated assholes who have not had success at anything but college classes. She is 15 years older than her husband (it turns out) and has had very little success in any career and she has had three. As she fails, she returns to school and acquires another masters or PHd and heads into another field to be marginal. She is so much smarter than the rest of us that we simply do not understand how fucking brilliant she is, no kidding.

I had speculated to my bride that there may be a reason they have a hard time finding "friends" to cruise with. We wanted to do the first adventure of this sort and figured it would be easier with friends who knew the ropes. Hahahaha, what a mistake. We flew from two separate airports because we live near two different major airports and met them on the ship. Things started going downhill with the Bitch asked my wife what books she had read lately? My wife was finishing a book on Christianity in Great Britian during the early period. Bitch says, "My father said religion is for people with weak minds, you don 't believe that crap do you?" And then she goes into an hour rant on how God is not real.

The next day we tour several museums and enjoy a walk around London. Trouble starts when my step counter on my Samsung watch says I have walked farther than her fucking husband. She believes they walk farther than us and the extra steps I walk when I wander off to look at various displays or admire the view are measured at a higher rate than her husband's shitty Apple watch. Over the course of the next ten days, this becomes a serious problem for her and a source of constant irritation.

It agitates this bitch so much, that before we meet them for the daily excursion that I go walk two laps of the ship before we meet them. This gives me 1/2 mile of additional distance and this fucker cannot catch up, hahahahahaha.

They only go on recommended ship excursions, we gladly take the extra bus ride to go see shit we like. We took a side trip to Dover Castle and spent the afternoon wandering the place, hell we saw a Spitfire flying over the castle in what was one of my favorite memories of the trip. Sadly, the plane didn't show up well in pictures. But, an actual Spitfire flying over an actual critical WWII base in actual England, how cool is that???

Two days later, this bitch asks me if I felt we should have nuked the Japanese in WWII? I said, "Yes" and cited the reasons including their refusal to surrender and their plans to fight to the death as a nation. She exploded, she hates Truman, she hates America, she fucking knows they would have surrendered if America had filmed the nuke tests and then sent the film to Japan for them to review. I cited their war crimes, the torture and murder of American POW's and civilians, the enslavement of Koreans and Chinese for labor and sexual slavery, the Japanese habit of beheading prisoners and conduct against cities like Nanking. Essentially, they were evil, violent, racist and unreasonable and they got what they deserved. After a tantrum and admitting she knew nothing of their conduct during the war, she fled the room. The next morning at breakfast she tried to argue with my wife to make her point. My wife declined and told her to try it with me instead, lol.

After she got mad, they started missing us on tours or getting on the other bus, we really did not care. They preferred eating in the restaurant and we preferred the self serve cafe, two different floors on the boat, thankfully. We did join them for dinner a couple of times, they refuse to eat beef, or chicken or seafood or whatever the special of the day was at wherever they ate and thus they require something special. They are kinda vegan, they lack some enzymes or some such shit and require extra effort at every meal. Every time the husband got a plate of food, she stole stuff and picked off his plate uninvited.

As a special treat, this fucking woman wears flip flops to the formal dining area and washes her feet with the cloth napkin at dinner. No shit, this one is impossible to make up. She has feet like a dairy cow, being over-educated is no reason for decent hygiene anyway. So during the meal she is complaining how her feet were swelling in her orthopedic shoes from the days walking so she switched to ghetto grade shower shoes for dinner. She then asks the waitress for a cup of ice and when it arrives she uses the napkin to rub the ice on her hooves during the meal. We parted before dessert was offered and headed away from them. From this point on we stayed away from each other as much as possible.

Fast forward five days to the last night of the trip. I get a text from the husband that says, "Sorry we turned out not to be compatible travel friends, good luck on your future travels, we have canceled any future plans with you." I replied, "Yes, we decided to do the same thing and I canceled our future plans a week ago." And blocked them.

The trip was fun when they were not around, people talked to us when they were not around. We had dinner with people other than them and had a wonderful time. We did excursions with people other than them and had fun.

Now, what about Viking? They were great at the airport and we got a cab to the ship. The downside was the van driver had no idea Viking was a cruise line and he was looking for a boat. He drove around for an hour before he got the courage to ask if we were going to a hotel.

Viking does include damn near everything in the total cost, nothing was extra except tips and selected tours. The restaurants serve versions of the food in the "World Cafe" so there is no reason to go to them unless you have brought to many nice dress shirts, they are filled with the same elderly people as everything else. They even had an old drunk bastard who loved dressing like Joe Biden and talking leftist politics to loudly.

The room was nice, smaller than you might think and the balcony was great for sitting watching the boat leave port or whatever. They kept it spotless and we tipped our stateroom attendants extra since they went the extra mile. I had them do a little laundry, socks washed 50 cents each, lol. It came back clean, folded and in a gift box.

Viking is a great cruise if you have dementia, are crippled or aged or have serious mobility issues. We saw several people who probably had no idea why there was an ocean so close to their bedroom. If you are aged and not space is available in the home, for the same, $8-10K a month you can ship granny on a trip around the world. About 50% of the ship cannot walk at 2 mile per hour or climb stairs. So you have to sift thru them to find people who can enjoy the walks and trips and maybe chat with over dinner.

The most entertaining part of the trip is the elevators, there are two sets of four elevators, so when you stand waiting for a ride, any one of them will ding. 90% of the time it is behind you. We had an old guy on our deck who missed his elevator EVERY single time. "DING!" and he starts looking for the door to open, it opens behind him to the left, he looks behind him to the right, the door closes and elevator moves on. He pushes the button, a min later,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"DING!" and he looks front left, it opens front right and closes before he moves. Every morning he was stuck at the elevators. We said, "Good Morning" and held the door for him when he was trapped there and we saw him.








The things you learn about people when you spend time with them are surprising, lol.
You need to ask her next time you see her, has she ever written a book? If not, your one up cause you just did!😂😂
 
that sounds like the perfect time to rid your self of those problematic people once and for all no no don't jump into the freezing water oh come back . why god why delete any messages proving you thought about it before you do it , premeditation could bite you hard but crazy is your friend ..
 
Great story.
Sorry they were such a buzzkill. Should have told the cuck to put a leash on his bitch. Totally breaks the ice.

We need to party.
My wife don't clean her feet at the table, hahaha.
That totally would have put me one the offensive and I would have been brutal.
So your saying we can party at the nursery still?
 
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So, my wife and I just finished 15 days on a Viking death barge travelling the oceans blue. I am 60 and I was easily 30-40 years younger than 98% of the ship. Apparently, the Viking ship is literally a Viking ship, packed with corpses and set off into the ocean to be set aflame and send these geezers to Valhalla, hahahaha. When we got to the airport they had a 100 year old woman in a wheelchair they were rolling towards the gates, she took a 160 day around the world cruise and I doubt she was aware of it.

Here's the story. Several months ago we had friends ask us if we could join them on a cruise, they are nice enough and the husband is a decent enough guy with a slightly cuck relationship with his wife. We had know them for years, she is an over-educated, retired know-it-all from a family of over-educated assholes who have not had success at anything but college classes. She is 15 years older than her husband (it turns out) and has had very little success in any career and she has had three. As she fails, she returns to school and acquires another masters or PHd and heads into another field to be marginal. She is so much smarter than the rest of us that we simply do not understand how fucking brilliant she is, no kidding.

I had speculated to my bride that there may be a reason they have a hard time finding "friends" to cruise with. We wanted to do the first adventure of this sort and figured it would be easier with friends who knew the ropes. Hahahaha, what a mistake. We flew from two separate airports because we live near two different major airports and met them on the ship. Things started going downhill with the Bitch asked my wife what books she had read lately? My wife was finishing a book on Christianity in Great Britian during the early period. Bitch says, "My father said religion is for people with weak minds, you don 't believe that crap do you?" And then she goes into an hour rant on how God is not real.

The next day we tour several museums and enjoy a walk around London. Trouble starts when my step counter on my Samsung watch says I have walked farther than her fucking husband. She believes they walk farther than us and the extra steps I walk when I wander off to look at various displays or admire the view are measured at a higher rate than her husband's shitty Apple watch. Over the course of the next ten days, this becomes a serious problem for her and a source of constant irritation.

It agitates this bitch so much, that before we meet them for the daily excursion that I go walk two laps of the ship before we meet them. This gives me 1/2 mile of additional distance and this fucker cannot catch up, hahahahahaha.

They only go on recommended ship excursions, we gladly take the extra bus ride to go see shit we like. We took a side trip to Dover Castle and spent the afternoon wandering the place, hell we saw a Spitfire flying over the castle in what was one of my favorite memories of the trip. Sadly, the plane didn't show up well in pictures. But, an actual Spitfire flying over an actual critical WWII base in actual England, how cool is that???

Two days later, this bitch asks me if I felt we should have nuked the Japanese in WWII? I said, "Yes" and cited the reasons including their refusal to surrender and their plans to fight to the death as a nation. She exploded, she hates Truman, she hates America, she fucking knows they would have surrendered if America had filmed the nuke tests and then sent the film to Japan for them to review. I cited their war crimes, the torture and murder of American POW's and civilians, the enslavement of Koreans and Chinese for labor and sexual slavery, the Japanese habit of beheading prisoners and conduct against cities like Nanking. Essentially, they were evil, violent, racist and unreasonable and they got what they deserved. After a tantrum and admitting she knew nothing of their conduct during the war, she fled the room. The next morning at breakfast she tried to argue with my wife to make her point. My wife declined and told her to try it with me instead, lol.

After she got mad, they started missing us on tours or getting on the other bus, we really did not care. They preferred eating in the restaurant and we preferred the self serve cafe, two different floors on the boat, thankfully. We did join them for dinner a couple of times, they refuse to eat beef, or chicken or seafood or whatever the special of the day was at wherever they ate and thus they require something special. They are kinda vegan, they lack some enzymes or some such shit and require extra effort at every meal. Every time the husband got a plate of food, she stole stuff and picked off his plate uninvited.

As a special treat, this fucking woman wears flip flops to the formal dining area and washes her feet with the cloth napkin at dinner. No shit, this one is impossible to make up. She has feet like a dairy cow, being over-educated is no reason for decent hygiene anyway. So during the meal she is complaining how her feet were swelling in her orthopedic shoes from the days walking so she switched to ghetto grade shower shoes for dinner. She then asks the waitress for a cup of ice and when it arrives she uses the napkin to rub the ice on her hooves during the meal. We parted before dessert was offered and headed away from them. From this point on we stayed away from each other as much as possible.

Fast forward five days to the last night of the trip. I get a text from the husband that says, "Sorry we turned out not to be compatible travel friends, good luck on your future travels, we have canceled any future plans with you." I replied, "Yes, we decided to do the same thing and I canceled our future plans a week ago." And blocked them.

The trip was fun when they were not around, people talked to us when they were not around. We had dinner with people other than them and had a wonderful time. We did excursions with people other than them and had fun.

Now, what about Viking? They were great at the airport and we got a cab to the ship. The downside was the van driver had no idea Viking was a cruise line and he was looking for a boat. He drove around for an hour before he got the courage to ask if we were going to a hotel.

Viking does include damn near everything in the total cost, nothing was extra except tips and selected tours. The restaurants serve versions of the food in the "World Cafe" so there is no reason to go to them unless you have brought to many nice dress shirts, they are filled with the same elderly people as everything else. They even had an old drunk bastard who loved dressing like Joe Biden and talking leftist politics to loudly.

The room was nice, smaller than you might think and the balcony was great for sitting watching the boat leave port or whatever. They kept it spotless and we tipped our stateroom attendants extra since they went the extra mile. I had them do a little laundry, socks washed 50 cents each, lol. It came back clean, folded and in a gift box.

Viking is a great cruise if you have dementia, are crippled or aged or have serious mobility issues. We saw several people who probably had no idea why there was an ocean so close to their bedroom. If you are aged and not space is available in the home, for the same, $8-10K a month you can ship granny on a trip around the world. About 50% of the ship cannot walk at 2 mile per hour or climb stairs. So you have to sift thru them to find people who can enjoy the walks and trips and maybe chat with over dinner.

The most entertaining part of the trip is the elevators, there are two sets of four elevators, so when you stand waiting for a ride, any one of them will ding. 90% of the time it is behind you. We had an old guy on our deck who missed his elevator EVERY single time. "DING!" and he starts looking for the door to open, it opens behind him to the left, he looks behind him to the right, the door closes and elevator moves on. He pushes the button, a min later,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"DING!" and he looks front left, it opens front right and closes before he moves. Every morning he was stuck at the elevators. We said, "Good Morning" and held the door for him when he was trapped there and we saw him.








The things you learn about people when you spend time with them are surprising, lol.
I see you’ve met my mother in law
 
My wife and I have enjoyed 2 lengthy Viking cruises. We like to cruise and also travel extensively in our RV. Wouldn't dream of taking a cruise with friends, or heaven forbid, relatives! A Brit on our 1st Viking cruise made the mistake of asking me why we Yanks are so enamored with our guns. Burned his ear for about an hour until he got up to get another beverage and never came back. Served him right... but don't ask if you don't want an answer, right?
 
So, my wife and I just finished 15 days on a Viking death barge travelling the oceans blue. I am 60 and I was easily 30-40 years younger than 98% of the ship. Apparently, the Viking ship is literally a Viking ship, packed with corpses and set off into the ocean to be set aflame and send these geezers to Valhalla, hahahaha. When we got to the airport they had a 100 year old woman in a wheelchair they were rolling towards the gates, she took a 160 day around the world cruise and I doubt she was aware of it.

Here's the story. Several months ago we had friends ask us if we could join them on a cruise, they are nice enough and the husband is a decent enough guy with a slightly cuck relationship with his wife. We had know them for years, she is an over-educated, retired know-it-all from a family of over-educated assholes who have not had success at anything but college classes. She is 15 years older than her husband (it turns out) and has had very little success in any career and she has had three. As she fails, she returns to school and acquires another masters or PHd and heads into another field to be marginal. She is so much smarter than the rest of us that we simply do not understand how fucking brilliant she is, no kidding.

I had speculated to my bride that there may be a reason they have a hard time finding "friends" to cruise with. We wanted to do the first adventure of this sort and figured it would be easier with friends who knew the ropes. Hahahaha, what a mistake. We flew from two separate airports because we live near two different major airports and met them on the ship. Things started going downhill with the Bitch asked my wife what books she had read lately? My wife was finishing a book on Christianity in Great Britian during the early period. Bitch says, "My father said religion is for people with weak minds, you don 't believe that crap do you?" And then she goes into an hour rant on how God is not real.

The next day we tour several museums and enjoy a walk around London. Trouble starts when my step counter on my Samsung watch says I have walked farther than her fucking husband. She believes they walk farther than us and the extra steps I walk when I wander off to look at various displays or admire the view are measured at a higher rate than her husband's shitty Apple watch. Over the course of the next ten days, this becomes a serious problem for her and a source of constant irritation.

It agitates this bitch so much, that before we meet them for the daily excursion that I go walk two laps of the ship before we meet them. This gives me 1/2 mile of additional distance and this fucker cannot catch up, hahahahahaha.

They only go on recommended ship excursions, we gladly take the extra bus ride to go see shit we like. We took a side trip to Dover Castle and spent the afternoon wandering the place, hell we saw a Spitfire flying over the castle in what was one of my favorite memories of the trip. Sadly, the plane didn't show up well in pictures. But, an actual Spitfire flying over an actual critical WWII base in actual England, how cool is that???

Two days later, this bitch asks me if I felt we should have nuked the Japanese in WWII? I said, "Yes" and cited the reasons including their refusal to surrender and their plans to fight to the death as a nation. She exploded, she hates Truman, she hates America, she fucking knows they would have surrendered if America had filmed the nuke tests and then sent the film to Japan for them to review. I cited their war crimes, the torture and murder of American POW's and civilians, the enslavement of Koreans and Chinese for labor and sexual slavery, the Japanese habit of beheading prisoners and conduct against cities like Nanking. Essentially, they were evil, violent, racist and unreasonable and they got what they deserved. After a tantrum and admitting she knew nothing of their conduct during the war, she fled the room. The next morning at breakfast she tried to argue with my wife to make her point. My wife declined and told her to try it with me instead, lol.

After she got mad, they started missing us on tours or getting on the other bus, we really did not care. They preferred eating in the restaurant and we preferred the self serve cafe, two different floors on the boat, thankfully. We did join them for dinner a couple of times, they refuse to eat beef, or chicken or seafood or whatever the special of the day was at wherever they ate and thus they require something special. They are kinda vegan, they lack some enzymes or some such shit and require extra effort at every meal. Every time the husband got a plate of food, she stole stuff and picked off his plate uninvited.

As a special treat, this fucking woman wears flip flops to the formal dining area and washes her feet with the cloth napkin at dinner. No shit, this one is impossible to make up. She has feet like a dairy cow, being over-educated is no reason for decent hygiene anyway. So during the meal she is complaining how her feet were swelling in her orthopedic shoes from the days walking so she switched to ghetto grade shower shoes for dinner. She then asks the waitress for a cup of ice and when it arrives she uses the napkin to rub the ice on her hooves during the meal. We parted before dessert was offered and headed away from them. From this point on we stayed away from each other as much as possible.

Fast forward five days to the last night of the trip. I get a text from the husband that says, "Sorry we turned out not to be compatible travel friends, good luck on your future travels, we have canceled any future plans with you." I replied, "Yes, we decided to do the same thing and I canceled our future plans a week ago." And blocked them.

The trip was fun when they were not around, people talked to us when they were not around. We had dinner with people other than them and had a wonderful time. We did excursions with people other than them and had fun.

Now, what about Viking? They were great at the airport and we got a cab to the ship. The downside was the van driver had no idea Viking was a cruise line and he was looking for a boat. He drove around for an hour before he got the courage to ask if we were going to a hotel.

Viking does include damn near everything in the total cost, nothing was extra except tips and selected tours. The restaurants serve versions of the food in the "World Cafe" so there is no reason to go to them unless you have brought to many nice dress shirts, they are filled with the same elderly people as everything else. They even had an old drunk bastard who loved dressing like Joe Biden and talking leftist politics to loudly.

The room was nice, smaller than you might think and the balcony was great for sitting watching the boat leave port or whatever. They kept it spotless and we tipped our stateroom attendants extra since they went the extra mile. I had them do a little laundry, socks washed 50 cents each, lol. It came back clean, folded and in a gift box.

Viking is a great cruise if you have dementia, are crippled or aged or have serious mobility issues. We saw several people who probably had no idea why there was an ocean so close to their bedroom. If you are aged and not space is available in the home, for the same, $8-10K a month you can ship granny on a trip around the world. About 50% of the ship cannot walk at 2 mile per hour or climb stairs. So you have to sift thru them to find people who can enjoy the walks and trips and maybe chat with over dinner.

The most entertaining part of the trip is the elevators, there are two sets of four elevators, so when you stand waiting for a ride, any one of them will ding. 90% of the time it is behind you. We had an old guy on our deck who missed his elevator EVERY single time. "DING!" and he starts looking for the door to open, it opens behind him to the left, he looks behind him to the right, the door closes and elevator moves on. He pushes the button, a min later,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"DING!" and he looks front left, it opens front right and closes before he moves. Every morning he was stuck at the elevators. We said, "Good Morning" and held the door for him when he was trapped there and we saw him.








The things you learn about people when you spend time with them are surprising, lol.

So this is what I have to look forward to in 30 years....arguments about the number of steps one took?

Yea....punching out early is sounding better by the day.
 
This is why I travel by motorcycle….

Only thing close wat taking Queen Mary NYC to Portsmouth. Left Dec. 31, landed Jan7. Ocean passage… not a cruise.

Whole different crowd and since none wants to be in the North Atlantic in January… not crowded. I think ship capacity is 2000 and we had 1200 aboard.

I spent most of the trip in cabin researching masters thesis… the isolation was excellent for that! First rate cigar lounge, too!

Highly recommended… I’ll disembowel myself with a spork before I get on a cruise ship.

Sirhr
 
Oh and great job on Write up, OP!

Also, for those who want a really great book to read that will make you want to travel solo in remote places on one-person conveyances, read PJ O’rourke’s “Holidays in Hell.”

It’s about his travels as a war and political correspondent… and some family trips.

Absolutely hilarious. The OP’s voyage reminded me of O’Rourke on a trip to the Soviet Union with a group tour of aging socialists. Had me laughing out loud!!

Sirhr
 
Why haven't any Navy veterans chimed in on this conversation? It would be interesting to hear about the cruises they went on; especially since they started letting women serve on combat ships.
 
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Glad you made it through unscathed. I definitely wouldn't have lasted as long as you did with that liberal nut. She reminds me of my older step brother who thinks hes so smart but can only manage success teaching, of course he's a liberal too somehow. I generally run off any liberal idiot early in the relationship so, I just don't think we could ever be in that exact situation, but your story has given me much pause about some other plans or plans of sort, we had been discussing.
 
Why haven't any Navy veterans chimed in on this conversation? It would be interesting to hear about the cruises they went on; especially since they started letting women serve on combat ships.
Been out too long. My only exposure to women on combat ships was Midshipmen cruises in the late 80’s - early 90’s. Made for some interesting reunions in the mid 90‘s.

That said, my Sister in law got back from a Galveston cruise and she had a good time with her family. She then asks if I ever thought about going on a cruise, and I replied that I was not interested in one. I was then asked if I was ever on a cruise. I said if you didn’t stand in front the Court of King Neptune, she wasn’t on a cruise. Good on the OP for traveling away from everyone else and I’d have loved to have seen the Spitfire in flight there. I got to see some awesome things around the world going past the bars.
 
We take trips with extended family every year and every single trip involves at least one massive blowout where divorce is threatened, someone is kicked out of their room etc.

At first it was embarrassing and I fought tooth and nail to avoid going on these trips.

Now I bring a flask and provide commentary like John Madden when the shit hits fan. Sometimes it lightens the mood, other times it makes things worse. That's all part of the excitement and I kind of look forward to it now.

When life hands you lemons, you paint that shit gold.
 
My wife and I cruise the MSC cruise line which is popular among Europeans wanting to cruise the Caribbean. Unfortunately you have to endure the French, which definitely live up to their reputation as being snobby, entitled, high maintenance assholes. Then there are the Scottish; these people know how to party. Every cruise we've taken, we've meet a random couple from Scotland and had the best time.