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Scuba Diving?

Target07

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Any diver's out there? I have had the itch to get into it. Was just wondering what all is entailed in getting certified (ie. cost for classes/training, cost to stay certified, how often do you have to re-certify, what all equipment must be purchased, how much does that cost, what all equipment is better to be rented or is that even possible, etc..) or any other info that you think is important or that you could provide.

Obviously, some of the above questions, if not all, are very general and may have one or more answers. Please feel free to post your opinions/experiences any advice. Thanks.
 
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Open water certification is usually around $350 and is fairly quick. You can rent gear, but if you want to buy it, a complete set up is around $800-$1100 for good stuff new. At a minimum you'll need to at least own your own mask / fins / snorkel. Those items can be around $200-500 depending on what you get.

Gear can be had right if you shop around, resale on SCUBA gear is shitty so good deals can be had
 
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I'd suggest taking a resort course first, just to see if you like it. These can usually be had for a $100 or less and give you a half hour or so of classroom instruction, a half hour of pool/wade instruction, and a short dive. Most likely you'll come back from that either completely hooked or completely turned off.

ETA: Oh, and they provide all the equipment.
 
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Scott: you need to learn to use more weight...
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Scuba divin is like guns, to answer your question, you have to define what you want to do with it. If you just want to be a cocktail diver, just rent gear and a few basic classes will do. OW, AOW, Rescue D, ect.

If you decide that you like it and the hook get set, and you have close access to some good water, it will behoove? you to to purchase you own gear. <span style="font-weight: bold">And you can never be over qualified diving.</span> Education and experience is key. And a lil common sense goes a long ways too.

Diving is an awesome thing.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott: you need to learn to use more weight...
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Is that what he saves all that brass for? Ballast?
 
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I have many friends that dive, and opposite to skydiving - equally as dangerous but what goes down does NOT necessarily come back up...


Listen to the safety, pay attention at ALL times!!!!


I don't dive but took a class and liustened - and a couple of years ago when I crashed my tub in a 12 foot wave and was washed over by another one - I had to blow bubbles to get my orientation straight after hitting the water at near 30mph....

(I had a life vest and wetsuit on though LOL)....

I'd actually love to learn to dive, but it's another expense requiring a lot of time.
My mom's best friend is a master diver, former US Navy diver here on base and he offered to teach when he was here.



And if you have sinus problems or can't clear your ears- maybe not..


But you can also make some good bucks if you are good - this teacher used to dive on the salmon farms and clean out the dead fish from the pens - $110 an hour diving.
 
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I have been a Master SCUBA Diver Trainer for 17 years with PADI, and a Technical Instructor with TDI for the past 8 years. Admittedly my focus is within the caving and wreck community, but I still teach Open Water pretty frequently. The first question I ask my students is; legitimately how many times a year are you going to actually dive. Are you going to diving every weekend, once a month, or once or twice year on the family vacation. With that said, you will need basic snorkeling gear, booties,and a weight belt for the Open Water class. The shop you go through will provide you the BCD, regulator, wetsuit, and tank as part of your check out dive. Just like shooting; buy once, cry once. Masks, a good quality silicone skirted low profile mask; this will be comfortable, and easy to clear. I prefer black silicone because clear will eventually turn yellow over time. Snorkel, don't go crazy here as you will most likely chunk it after certification. Wetsuit booties, a quality zippered neoprene with a good sole. Fins, a good quality fin will make your experiance enjoyable, avoid Jet Fins, they will make you miserable. Weight belt, go with soft weights, they are lead shot inside a cloth or nylon pouch and if you drop it on your toe you won't break it like a hunk of lead. Be prepared to buy enough weight to compensate for 10% of your body weight. If you way 200 lbs, buy 20lbs of weight, that will be more than enough.

In reference to your Open Water Class, I would suggest researching the local shops and see who you like, ask to see their rental equipment, and ask where they do their check out dives. Your in Mississippi so you have access to Florida springs and the Gulf Coast. Don't predicate the class on how fast they can get it done or how cheap you can get it, its not a race, its a new hobby / experiance. Plan on taking the nicest check out dive you can afford, if that is a long weekend in Pensacola diving the Gulf, you will surely enjoy the experiance and want to continue the hobby. If you do a check out at the local lake because its cheap, you probably won't be that enthusiastic, and it will become one more thing you did.

After the class if you think you will really like SCUBA, I would suggest buying a good regulator, octopus, and guage console (HP guage and depth gauge). They are easy to carry on planes, and its a piece of mind knowing that your air delivery system is yours and up to date. Especially if you like to travel to the Carribean or Mexico. Every shop in the most out of the way places has tanks and BCD's. There isn't much to them maintenance wise, so you don't need to worry about how the locals maintain them. Now if you have your own boat or plan on diving alot, an investment into the BCD and wetsuit is a good idea, because the cost of rental will be outweighed after several dives within a few months. I would however suggest not spending money on tanks unless you are going to be avid about the sport.

The last thing I would suggest is that if you like the experiance, continue your education with Advanced Open Water, Nitrox, etc. Once your certified, you don't have to re-certify or pay annual dues, your certified to dive. I encourage continuing education because it is not nearly as book intensive as Open Water, and it gives you the oppurtunity to further your experiance with instructors present, and the availability to dive some pretty cool places at discounted prices.

If you have any questions don't hesitate to PM me.
 
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Go to Gulf Coast Divers in Mobile 251-342-2970 they have a indoor pool with a 15.00 intro to scuba class that lets you give it a try. They have some of the best instructors around, they actually care about what you learn, you can try any item in the pool before you purchase it to make sure it fits and works to your liking. Remember diving is dangerous if you do not obey the guidelines, comfort in your gear and its performance far out weighs the price. You can buy used gear at good prices like JROSE said, but have it checked out before using it in an openwater dive. Diving is an ongoing education for everyone that does it, no 2 dives are alike.
Intro to scuba= Grade school
Open water Cert= high school
continuing education= college
Diving as much as you can afford for experience= masters
The dive tables are a guide line, the algorithms used are base on Young Navy divers, if you smoke, drink, overweight, tired this all plays into effect of diving, be respectful of the water she is not forgiving, but you will have a whole new world to look at.

Enjoy.
 
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Good advice.

When I got back into diving after an absence of several years, I did a certification update with a local shop, then combined a trip to Cozumel with an Advanced Open Water certification. If you're going to dive, might as well do so in a nice place.

Like many other skills, diving <span style="font-style: italic">safely</span> is a perishable skill. Those who intend to continue in it need to maintain their skill levels for safety reasons, and their is no better way to do that than taking more advanced skill classes.
 
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It is a great hobby, and can be very rewarding. However, I caution all new divers to take it a bit more seriously than the recreational dive industry portrays it. Its not "as safe as bowling". The analogy I use is driving: generally safe, but with occasional severe consequences. If you have poor skills and poor awareness something bad WILL happen eventually. The better your skills, planning, and problem solving, the less likely you are to have a serious problem. But just like driving, sometimes bad things can happen that are completely out of your control. People should be comfortable with that idea before they go in the water. The tables arent perfect....and freak things do happen. People without good awareness and problem solving skills should stick to snorkeling.

Take the instruction seriously....practice often. Visualize your skills when you are not diving (just like firearms training). Dont take shortcuts, and remember no dive, no matter how cool, is worth your life.

Sean
 
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Do it. You won't regret it. More addictive than shooting. Good fun. Mind safety above all other things. Buy uour gear AFTER you've decided you like it as it will entail a pretty large investment, but will be worth it if you enjoy it.

I always took ALL of my classes except NITROX certification (Open Water, Master Diver, Rescue Diver, Divemaster) through a university, so I can't say how your average shop class will be. My classes were very thorough though MUCH longer than your average shop class.

Diving is not hard, but you do have to know how to do it safely.

Could be the most rewarding experience you will have.
 
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Was a PADI-trained guy prior to entering the military. Learned from great instructors in south Florida. You've got some good advice here, but be realistic about your goals. I like SCUBA more than skydiving, it lasts longer. You meet some quality folks on your diving travels, and that's half the fun. Diving on wrecks is really awe-inspiring. I want to dive on that aircraft carrier they sunk recently (Pensacola?) off the coast of FloraBama.
 
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Lost a friend July 4th two years ago in a diving accident. Can't tell you how many hours he had logged but was one of the best spear fisherman around. Gear failure took his life and left his wife and kids behind. No way to predict the failure it just happened and now I free dive.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Witch Doctor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have been a Master SCUBA Diver Trainer for 17 years with PADI, and a Technical Instructor with TDI for the past 8 years. Admittedly my focus is within the caving and wreck community, but I still teach Open Water pretty frequently. The first question I ask my students is; legitimately how many times a year are you going to actually dive. Are you going to diving every weekend, once a month, or once or twice year on the family vacation. With that said, you will need basic snorkeling gear, booties,and a weight belt for the Open Water class. The shop you go through will provide you the BCD, regulator, wetsuit, and tank as part of your check out dive. Just like shooting; buy once, cry once. Masks, a good quality silicone skirted low profile mask; this will be comfortable, and easy to clear. I prefer black silicone because clear will eventually turn yellow over time. Snorkel, don't go crazy here as you will most likely chunk it after certification. Wetsuit booties, a quality zippered neoprene with a good sole. Fins, a good quality fin will make your experiance enjoyable, avoid Jet Fins, they will make you miserable. Weight belt, go with soft weights, they are lead shot inside a cloth or nylon pouch and if you drop it on your toe you won't break it like a hunk of lead. Be prepared to buy enough weight to compensate for 10% of your body weight. If you way 200 lbs, buy 20lbs of weight, that will be more than enough.

In reference to your Open Water Class, I would suggest researching the local shops and see who you like, ask to see their rental equipment, and ask where they do their check out dives. Your in Mississippi so you have access to Florida springs and the Gulf Coast. Don't predicate the class on how fast they can get it done or how cheap you can get it, its not a race, its a new hobby / experiance. Plan on taking the nicest check out dive you can afford, if that is a long weekend in Pensacola diving the Gulf, you will surely enjoy the experiance and want to continue the hobby. If you do a check out at the local lake because its cheap, you probably won't be that enthusiastic, and it will become one more thing you did.

After the class if you think you will really like SCUBA, I would suggest buying a good regulator, octopus, and guage console (HP guage and depth gauge). They are easy to carry on planes, and its a piece of mind knowing that your air delivery system is yours and up to date. Especially if you like to travel to the Carribean or Mexico. Every shop in the most out of the way places has tanks and BCD's. There isn't much to them maintenance wise, so you don't need to worry about how the locals maintain them. Now if you have your own boat or plan on diving alot, an investment into the BCD and wetsuit is a good idea, because the cost of rental will be outweighed after several dives within a few months. I would however suggest not spending money on tanks unless you are going to be avid about the sport.

The last thing I would suggest is that if you like the experiance, continue your education with Advanced Open Water, Nitrox, etc. Once your certified, you don't have to re-certify or pay annual dues, your certified to dive. I encourage continuing education because it is not nearly as book intensive as Open Water, and it gives you the oppurtunity to further your experiance with instructors present, and the availability to dive some pretty cool places at discounted prices.

If you have any questions don't hesitate to PM me.</div></div>

Thanks for all of the good info Witch Doctor.
 
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I put in hundreds, if not thousands, of hours underwater diving in Asia in the 80's. Upon returning to the U.S. (SoCal), it took about 12 months to lose interest in dealing with the thick wetsuits, heavy weight belts, lousy visibility, nothing to see, etc.

It's far more enjoyable in warm tropical water!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WICKEDFISH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Go to Gulf Coast Divers in Mobile 251-342-2970 they have a indoor pool with a 15.00 intro to scuba class that lets you give it a try. They have some of the best instructors around, they actually care about what you learn, you can try any item in the pool before you purchase it to make sure it fits and works to your liking. Remember diving is dangerous if you do not obey the guidelines, comfort in your gear and its performance far out weighs the price. You can buy used gear at good prices like JROSE said, but have it checked out before using it in an openwater dive. Diving is an ongoing education for everyone that does it, no 2 dives are alike.
Intro to scuba= Grade school
Open water Cert= high school
continuing education= college
Diving as much as you can afford for experience= masters
The dive tables are a guide line, the algorithms used are base on Young Navy divers, if you smoke, drink, overweight, tired this all plays into effect of diving, be respectful of the water she is not forgiving, but you will have a whole new world to look at.

Enjoy.</div></div>

Thanks for the contact info. How is the diving around Orange Beach, AL? Is the water pretty clear. As you well know on the Mississippi Gulf Coast it looks like sewer water due to the amount of silt that is deposited from the Mississippi River...at least until you get several miles out anyways.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WICKEDFISH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I even make a living diving, but it is not always clear warm water.

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Nice. I work in the GOM also in ultra deepwater (4000+ feet water depth)...except I am on an Oil Rig...LOL! I love my job.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: STRICK9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lost a friend July 4th two years ago in a diving accident. Can't tell you how many hours he had logged but was one of the best spear fisherman around. Gear failure took his life and left his wife and kids behind. No way to predict the failure it just happened and now I free dive.</div></div>

Sorry to hear that Strick. Like you say, no way to predict a failure.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Witch Doctor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

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Could you narrate that for me? I can't quit make it out...it is a little blurry.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Witch Doctor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

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Witch Docor is that Eagle's Nest?

its been a few years since i dove there but i remember seeing a similar sign down there.





As others have said, i would try an intro course first and see how you like it. Like everything else Gear is very expensisve and unlike guns it doesnt hold its value.

if you arent going to dive that much, buy good essentail gear, mask, fins etc as others have stated and rent the rest for a while.

owning and maintaing tanks gets to be a hassle, we did alot of back to back trips and weekend trips so i needed half a dozen or more.

i got into it a few years ago and dove my ass off for a few years, i saw some amazing things under water and shot some unbelievable fish. now, i am not as fearless as i once was, its hard to explain i guess i got older or wiser not really sure but i respect it alot more now than i once did

be careful, plan ahead, take thought into your gear selection and layout, get into and stay in shape,

ive had a few close calls, ran into some good sized toothy critters but looking back like i said there are some amazing sights and experiences down there.
 
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Very good eye, that is indeed Eagle's Nest.

This is the sign posted by NACD/ NSSCDS/ PADI to warn novice divers from entering underwater caves. You will find it in the farthest back side of the cavern, just before the point where you can no longer use sun light. It is in every cavern in the US and most places oversees where a NSSCDS (National Speological Society- Cave Diving Section) or NACD (National Association of Cave Divers) diver has explored.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Basically it says not to be a dumbass.</div></div>

I like the way you para-phrased it.
 
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Most likely yes, but I would recomend consulting your physician first. As part of the Open Water class you will be required to fill out a medical liability form.

An easy self test to determine if you will have issues with equalization that would prohibit you from diving is to go to a deep pool (10 feet or deeper), free dive to the bottom, once you start to feel pressure on your ears, pich your nose and gently blow. If the pressure is relieved then you will likely not have any issues. You can also wiggle your jaw during your descent to equalize.
 
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tsprink,

I too had issues with my ears and tried diving. Once when I was about 14, and again maybe 2 years ago. Thought I had just been a dumbass when I was younger (didnt properly clear) so I tried again. I actually had sinus surgery to remove a deviated septum and some polyps, with tubes after. Once everything was healed up, I was fine in the pool (about 8-10 feet deep, though repeated ascents and descents made them a bit sore) and then I did my first OWD. I had to use sudafed, and had a little trouble at first clearing, but after a few minutes made it down fine, about 20 or so feet. When I tried to ascend, every time I tried to go up, I got dizzy. REAL dizzy. Nauseous as well. That feeling didnt go away, so I bailed on the 2nd dive for the day. When I asked my ENT, he recommended that I just avoid diving. I also have issues when flying as well. I would consult an ENT, preferably one who dives and see what they say. I believe the DAN network has a listing of ENT's either on their website or if you call them. Best of luck, I am jealous of all those who can dive.
 
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One of the best wreck dives I have done was on the B-29 in Lake Mead. That was a few years back, I think the Park Service has restrictions now.

The Oriskany off Pensacola is nice as well, we did several deco dives with scooters on it last summer. Thats the way to see the Oriskany, scooting across the flight deck with a set of doubles and bail-out bottles. Lazy man's tech diving.
 
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I was just chatting with a guy here that dives - he does it in warm water only now - says it's one dangerous sport - you gotta be able to think "Under pressure" LOL


He said he had a regulator rip out at 60 feet and ended up making an emergency ascent - luckily he had only been down 3 mins...

I live near Puget Sound- best Octopus viewing scuba diving in the world - but too dangerous for me...not to mention COLD...
 
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I just got into diving in December of 09. Got my open water cert for $130 plus equipment and the book. Then started buying my own gear and took the advanced open water class for $150 plus the book.

Depending on where you dive, and what exposure suit you need, you could be looking at anywhere from $1000 to $3000 to get setup with your own equipment.

Scubatoys
Leisure Pro

Diving is fun, even in the pacific NW where there's "nothing to see". Like giant pacific octopus, wolf eals, 5' ling cod, schools of rock fish, dungeness and red rock crab, etc etc....

There is no re-certification, you get certified and it's up to you if you think you need to take the class again later.

Equipment:

BCD (bouyancy control device) $300-$600
Regulator first stage with second stage $250-$600
Octopus (backup for your main second stage regulator) $80-$200
Personal gear package (fins, mask, boots, gloves, snokle) $150-$350
Exposure suit (drysuit for water below 48 degrees, or wetsuit for warmer water) anywhere from $150 for a wetsuit up to $2300 or more for a drysuit and anywhere in between
Hood $40-80
Weights and weightbelt $100-150
Tanks $150-$400 each (I look on Craigslist though)
Lights $40-300

I'll update this when I think of what I'm missing.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Witch Doctor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One of the best wreck dives I have done was on the B-29 in Lake Mead. That was a few years back, I think the Park Service has restrictions now.

The Oriskany off Pensacola is nice as well, we did several deco dives with scooters on it last summer. Thats the way to see the Oriskany, scooting across the flight deck with a set of doubles and bail-out bottles. Lazy man's tech diving. </div></div>

We talked about hitting that B-29 next year when we're out there for SHOT. I plan on diving the O this summer. We should get a few 'hiders together for it.
 
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The wealth of information that has been provided here is excellent. I will have to go to my local dive shop and check it out. So far, it is sounding fun...like anything else w/ a certain amount of calculated danger/risk.
 
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Just dive well within the dive tables. Don't push it, and dive with another experienced and SAFE diver. The idea is, you can only stay at depth for a certain amount of time as a recreational diver.

You stay down too long, you build up too much nitrogen in your system, you come up, and nitrogen bubbles form, resulting in decompression sickness which can be deadly. Make sure you know where the nearest decompression chamber is in case there is an incident.

It's fun, as long as you pay attention and don't do anything stupid. Also, I've heard of guys getting bent while diving within the dive tables. So take every other factor out of the equation by making sure you are rested and well hydrated before you dive.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRose</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Witch Doctor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One of the best wreck dives I have done was on the B-29 in Lake Mead. That was a few years back, I think the Park Service has restrictions now.

The Oriskany off Pensacola is nice as well, we did several deco dives with scooters on it last summer. Thats the way to see the Oriskany, scooting across the flight deck with a set of doubles and bail-out bottles. Lazy man's tech diving. </div></div>

We talked about hitting that B-29 next year when we're out there for SHOT. I plan on diving the O this summer. We should get a few 'hiders together for it. </div></div>

I saw something about that on history channel and just now researched it - 250+ feet of water!!!

That's re-breather territory!

Seriously tho I do hope they bring that bird up - there's very few left - the military didn't apparantly see the need to preserve history.

(Off topic but there are only 6 flying ME-109's in teh world, and 2 B-29's out of thousands built)...

Very cool - post pics!!
 
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The B-29 is actually at 145 feet now, my profile was a bit deeper, but that is attribituted to the drop in the water level at Lake Mead. Both my dives on it were 60 minutes of bottom time with 120 minutes of deco. If I had owned a CCR I could have extended the bottom time to about 3 hours There are several good outfits in that area to dive with. TDL and Lake Mead Technical Diver's both have National Park permits to dive it, and have good reputations.

Rebreathers are cool; they extend the heck out of your dive time, make the neccessity of stage bottles and deco bottles moot (use a single bail out bottle), and are easier on the diver regarding fatigue (warm moist air instead of cold compressed). Down side $10,000 for a system. I am old fashioned (wink:can't drop the coin), I still use my steel double 100 LP's (trimix), stage bottles, and an 02 cocktail at my 20 foot deco stop.
 
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Scuba Diving.
For years I did the Diving thing. Ended up NSS-CDS Cave Diver and Loved it.. After the third child and my main diving buddy nealy lost his life at "the orange grove" , He panicd, left the line and overbreathed his reg. We caught him before blackout and was able to get him back on track. Anyway Next weekend to cavers lost thier life at Wakulla (FL) scootering in a cave. One was an Engineer and father of 4. My wife through down the newspaper clipping and said "No More"... I couldnt argue with her.. Cave Diving is a so fasinating... Anyway here is what I believe...
1. Buy the best Technical gear you can afford (Din Valves, Backplate and wings instead of bcd, dry suit etc..) because you can recreational dive with technical gear but not the other way arround.
2. I found no single best manufacture for all technical gear. Ex. I liked scubapro regs but oms backplate/wings.. etx
3. Go to the "Deco Stop" website.. best tech website for diving info, kinda like the Hide is to shootin.
4. Don't get hung up on all the "Cards" some dive certifications are issueing out. I think it's kinda Money grab thing..
5. Interview the instructor, make sure they know their shit...
6. Definitly do Nitrox, you will never dive air again... it's for tires..
7. Real Diving is $$$$$ like any other sport.. the more you do the more it cost.. Thats one reason why I say buy tech gear. If you want to do overhead and penatration diving you will need the real shit... Dins, Double E-130's, HID-Lights,redundant everything and super wrist computers..
8. If I had to do it over again I would look into closed circuit re-breathers.. becuase by the time you spend on the real stuff making bubbles you spent $ 10K anyway....
9. Read and Research alot before you buy..... resale on the stuff is not that great.. and I would hesitate on buying used regs...
10. Beware because it's addictive and Fun...
11. Been there, Done That and what a Blast..

Good Luck..
George of the Jungle
 
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never strapped a tank, but u can find me freediving between 80-100 whenever the conditions allow it.. however i will soon start scuba so i can search for bugs at 100. one thing you need to know with scuba, any diving actually, is that mistakes can and do kill divers year round, but, even playing it by the book doesnt mean you are safe. i know guys who have got the bends at 120 feet with proper deco stops, and ive talked to guys who tank dive 250+ on regular air. you have to be 100% confident of your ability to think under pressure (if you have line tangled around your foot and your reg stops working 120 feet down and 10 feet inside a wreck with no vis, whats your first step?)

join sites like spearboard, you get the lowdown on diving/spearfishing without a lot of the politically correct bs that you find on other sites, i saw a hells divers logo earlier in this thread, those guys are the gods of deep air scuba diving, the gods of rig spearfishing, and they have ALL had friends die doing what they do.. there are threads on spearboard (100 ways for a rig diver to die for example) that in my opinion all divers should read

http://spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=62698 here u go
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truth be told i feel more comfortable in the water than on land, diving (scuba or free) is an experience that can be life changing, there is nothing like being inside the worlds biggest aquarium, where all of a sudden your not at the top of the food chain, very humbling but beautiful experience
 
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Love to scuba, but I only have the basics (mask, fins, snorkel, booties, reg/octo, gloves) and either rent or am at the mercy of borrowing from other diving buddies with good gear. Not a whole lot of diving options here in AZ anyway, but I still love to do it. Dang, I have way too many expensive hobbies, ya know?!
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