Seals ganging up on a Special Operator and killing him? WTF Over???

hmmmm murderous POS's. don't make me mention how a very famous one with a PR department that the USMC would envy got dead here in Texas. Dont talk shit.

Why don’t you check the all knowing attitude, shut your soup cooler & let the facts play out? Fuck, man... You’re the first to preach to everyone about everything under the Constitution. Whatever happened to “”innocent until proven guilty?”” Were you there? Did you see what happened? If so, do tell. If not, just wait til the investigation reveals the facts.

Take your meds too.
 
Dont talk to WW that way, he has a point, I don't see where i siad anything like hang them squid fuckers without trial, I am just commenting on them murderous POS's ganging up on a SO, Ill wait for a trial unless they get the teflon coverage to protect the Navy. Jon McCain style if you know what I mean.


Your reckless faggotry is predictable and boring, same,same,water buffalo.

 
Apparently I'm not the only one seeing it, and you know that comment was for you AJ. You throw a dead soldier out there to catch some inter service rivalry glee, complete with homo references for icing, that's BS to the first degree. Fucking stop.
 
Seals allegedly kill a SO and you are offended that they get called names. Aint throwing a dead soldier anywhere, the SEALS and the Navy are slow walking this not me.

QUOTE=jrassy;n6710607]Apparently I'm not the only one seeing it, and you know that comment was for you AJ. You throw a dead soldier out there to catch some inter service rivalry glee, complete with homo references for icing, that's BS to the first degree. Fucking stop.[/QUOTE]

 
hmmmm murderous POS's. don't make me mention how a very famous one with a PR department that the USMC would envy got dead here in Texas. Dont talk shit.

You, and the stupid ass press, have nothing but breathless speculation

"NCIS can confirm we are investigating the death of SSGT Melgar but beyond that, NCIS does not discuss the details of ongoing investigations," said Ed Buice, an NCIS spokesman.

I second the recommendation to take your meds, and I'll add: up the dose.
 
Why don’t you check the all knowing attitude, shut your soup cooler & let the facts play out? Fuck, man... You’re the first to preach to everyone about everything under the Constitution. Whatever happened to “”innocent until proven guilty?”” Were you there? Did you see what happened? If so, do tell. If not, just wait til the investigation reveals the facts.

Take your meds too.

correct me if im wrong, but under the UCMJ you are actually guilty until proven innocent? However, what bums me out about this is the DEVGRU used to be non existent. then Obama outed them. then the OBL's killer got outted and now this tarnishing our best OAF's. i wish we could go back to the days where our response to any military op or anything was "no comment".

if these guys did kill the guy, i hope they get the death penalty and hung until they are dead dead dead.
 
the biggest weapon special operations have, is secrecy. the public doesnt need to know how you do what you do, where you do it, or when you do it.

my biggest bitch has been the seal community seeking glory at every twist and turn. the public doesnt need to know. you want to know? go sign up, mak it through training/selection, and walk the walk. otherwise? shut your fucking mouth and prosecute anyone who violates the code of keeping your cake hole shut.

as far as interservice rivalry, i am the first to jump on that shit. but a guy getting off-ed aint right. unless it's bergdahl, then it's kosher.....but i we aint talking about that POS. sounds like these guys are neck deep in shit, and whatever the bullshit, their gooses are cooked. as it should be.
 
Yup , all the media bullshit demeans the purpose and credibility
of that particular branch of SF. I don’t want to see a book from
every op who dumped someone ; if you want public recognition
go plays sports or be a politician ... :/
 
One thing that I can say Roosevelt did right was after the Doolittle Raid when asked by press where the bombers that hit Tokyo came from he replied "Shangri-La" and let it rest at that.


(at least that's the public perception, he probably really milked it for all the political capital he could but that fact has not been passed down through time.)
 
correct me if im wrong, but under the UCMJ you are actually guilty until proven innocent? However, what bums me out about this is the DEVGRU used to be non existent. then Obama outed them. then the OBL's killer got outted and now this tarnishing our best OAF's. i wish we could go back to the days where our response to any military op or anything was "no comment".

if these guys did kill the guy, i hope they get the death penalty and hung until they are dead dead dead.[/QUOTI

I hope this clears things up a bit.

Are You Guilty Until Proven Innocent in the Military?

June 23, 2015 By Ernesto Gapasin
Are you guilty until proven innocent in the military?

When you joined the United States Armed Forces, you gave up certain rights to serve our country. However, you did not give up your most basic constitutional rights, including the ability to avoid cruel and unusual punishment and the right to a fair trial. The notion that every person is innocent until proven guilty is yet another of the constitutional rights that you retain after becoming a member of the armed forces. This is true, although it may not always seem like it . . .
 
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correct me if im wrong, but under the UCMJ you are actually guilty until proven innocent? However, what bums me out about this is the DEVGRU used to be non existent. then Obama outed them. then the OBL's killer got outted and now this tarnishing our best OAF's. i wish we could go back to the days where our response to any military op or anything was "no comment".

if these guys did kill the guy, i hope they get the death penalty and hung until they are dead dead dead.[/QUOTI

I hope this clears things up a bit.

Are You Guilty Until Proven Innocent in the Military?

June 23, 2015 By Ernesto Gapasin
Are you guilty until proven innocent in the military?

When you joined the United States Armed Forces, you gave up certain rights to serve our country. However, you did not give up your most basic constitutional rights, including the ability to avoid cruel and unusual punishment and the right to a fair trial. The notion that every person is innocent until proven guilty is yet another of the constitutional rights that you retain after becoming a member of the armed forces. This is true, although it may not always seem like it . . .

perception is reality i guess. it always felt like you were guilty. not that i ever was guilty, i made it through my military years without getting caught :)
 
AJ..Maybe it was the first year cherry Green Beret kept running his mouth to the salty Dev guys and got it shut.

So youre saying the guy deserved to be killed?

man, white knighting a navy seal.......thats a new one.....you hoping maybe if youre nice enough, one will bend you over and give you the ol' village people "in the navy" experience?
 
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a bit off topic...but it's amazing. every fucker i ever met that was in the navy worked with the seals. it's amazing. i laugh my ass off.

it all comes back to just being proud of what you did/do, without embellishing it. doesnt matter if you were a fucking spoon, serving your country is something to be proud of. why folks feel the need to pull this shit is beyond me.
 
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Honestly I was hoping for some insight from some of the squids on here,some kind of reasoning, but denial and fanboy bullshit is what I got. I should have known better. I should not have used teh words butt fuckers in my OP, it gets the seal bukakke fanboys worked up.

Well this thread went pretty much like I thought it would, right AJ? Pulled in a couple real studs didn't you.

 
a bit off topic...but it's amazing. every fucker i ever met that was in the navy worked with the seals. it's amazing. i laugh my ass off.

it all comes back to just being proud of what you did/do, without embellishing it. doesnt matter if you were a fucking spoon, serving your country is something to be proud of. why folks feel the need to pull this shit is beyond me.

I miss the good old days when everyone was an ex-Green Beret
 
Honestly I was hoping for some insight from some of the squids on here,some kind of reasoning, but denial and fanboy bullshit is what I got. I should have known better. I should not have used teh words butt fuckers in my OP, it gets the seal bukakke fanboys worked up.


Jerry, what possible inight would any of us (Hiders) have? Would it be fair to call you an army fanboy? If this were about a group of army dogs killing a seal, would you still have posted his?
 
Jerry, what possible inight would any of us (Hiders) have? Would it be fair to call you an army fanboy? If this were about a group of army dogs killing a seal, would you still have posted his?

i can't speak for AJ, but i know i'd be pissed about ANY service personal killing other service personal. dont care if it was army killing navy, marine killing airmen, or army killing army. doesnt matter. for fucks sake, we dont even murder the enemy.

i do believe though, that bergdahl should be drawn and quartered.
 
yes I would have posted it. I cant believe this does not spark a lot more interest here on the hide. And yes we do have so real OAF people here, so yeah I did and do kind of expect a little insight. Bergdhal should have been shot when they exchanged him, shot dead at teh door of the helicopter and body left in afghanistan

Jerry, what possible inight would any of us (Hiders) have? Would it be fair to call you an army fanboy? If this were about a group of army dogs killing a seal, would you still have posted his?

 
Not every service member is a saint.

They come from the same population as everybody else, with the same percentages of criminal elements as the rest of the world.
Jeffery McDonald was a green beret convicted of murdering his wife. There's the guy who shot sniper shot the people at a bar. There were the skinheads who committed murder at Ft. Bragg. There were the white supremacists who published "the resister" at Bragg who got removed from the Army. There is Spenser Rappone. Just because you serve doesn't make you a saint.
There are just as many pedophiles, molesters, and sickos inside as the percentage out. How many rapes of female service members ?? How about the drill instructor scandal last couple of years where they were regularly sexually abusing female recruits?
The murder rate on bases is about the same as the outside world. There were 13 on the base near us one year.

Considering the need for a good guy list, there are rip off thieves on the hide. Not everybody on here is a saint either.

In RVN, how many fragging incidents (murders) were there ? Rapes ? Black market sergeants making a fortune in the club scandals? Putting drugs in bodies being shipped home? And then you had Salt and Pepper in "Eye" Corp... deserters who fought with the vietcong.

If every service member were a saint there would be no dishonorable discharges (comparable to a felony conviction outside), no less than honorable discharge (comparable to a misdemeanor outside), and no for the good of the service discharges.

Even on the hide here when people get a permanent ban, just goes to show, it's all about people, and nobody is perfect... it's all human nature.
 
Bergdhal should have been shot when they exchanged him, shot dead at teh door of the helicopter and body left in afghanistan

Under UCMJ, that would have been murder....

Seems those professional soldiers who retrieved him, trusted the system to fairly convict him, and brought him in to be tried, like we expect them to act. The system working as designed.
 
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AJ,
yes I would have posted it. I cant believe this does not spark a lot more interest here on the hide. And yes we do have so real OAF people here, so yeah I did and do kind of expect a little insight. Bergdhal should have been shot when they exchanged him, shot dead at teh door of the helicopter and body left in afghanistan


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yeah, their hair gel is dangerous.

we starting a board on this one? woman? money? drugs?

You check that shit mister. You have no idea what the OP tempo of Devgru or CAG is and what they sacrifice. The amount of casualties they take is insane and they get no special union disability when they get fucked up. Ill admit the average squid right out of BUDS or SQT is full of shit and themselves and lately seems to be too many of them but we're not talking about your average SEALS here. And FYI there has been a little dirty secret of DEV and violence issues.
 
I think many of us are waiting for more facts to come out. This could be drug related, could be a sort of hazing, might be willful murder. I look forward to obtaining a deeper understanding of the situation.
 
You check that shit mister. You have no idea what the OP tempo of Devgru or CAG is and what they sacrifice. The amount of casualties they take is insane and they get no special union disability when they get fucked up. Ill admit the average squid right out of BUDS or SQT is full of shit and themselves and lately seems to be too many of them but we're not talking about your average SEALS here. And FYI there has been a little dirty secret of DEV and violence issues.

HAHAAAAAAAAAAhaaaaaaHAhaaaaHAAAAA!!!!! check that shit? fuck no. who the fuck are you to tell me anything. no one....that's who. i've done my time; actually putting my life on hold and my life on the line repeatedly. i've served with fucking legends in that community, and those guys consider me a brother. so I couldnt give two fucks or a cup of cold piss about you wanting me to "check that shit". i gives a flying fuck if you are a team 6 member yourself. any criticism i have of them is 100% legit and above the groin. you dont like it? that's YOUR fucking problem.

i got better things to do than cock worship and throw abbreviations around. but you keep at it, and keep dreaming that you are going to dictate ANYTHING to me.

but i do have to thank you....i had a good laugh at your expense. and i needed it. one last thought....watch out for Dee.....he's a real sumbitch.
 
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Unless things changed in the UCMJ over the past 30byears summary execution on a battle field is legal in certain circumstances.

Sarfshitforbrains762. Yes it is sad he and the other grunts got wounded and killed.

Under UCMJ, that would have been murder....

Seems those professional soldiers who retrieved him, trusted the system to fairly convict him, and brought him in to be tried, like we expect them to act. The system working as designed.

 
HAHAAAAAAAAAAhaaaaaaHAhaaaaHAAAAA!!!!! check that shit? fuck no. who the fuck are you to tell me anything. no one....that's who. i've done my time; actually putting my life on hold and my life on the line repeatedly. i've served with fucking legends in that community, and those guys consider me a brother. so I couldnt give two fucks or a cup of cold piss about you wanting me to "check that shit". i gives a flying fuck if you are a team 6 member yourself. any criticism i have of them is 100% legit and above the groin. you dont like it? that's YOUR fucking problem.

i got better things to do than cock worship and throw abbreviations around. but you keep at it, and keep dreaming that you are going to dictate ANYTHING to me.

but i do have to thank you....i had a good laugh at your expense. and i needed it. one last thought....watch out for Dee.....he's a real sumbitch.




couldnt give two fucks or a cup of cold piss

i fucking havent hearded that one before, i am going to wear that one out
 
After long reflections on whimsical days of yesteryear, I bet it had something to do with one of the three “B’s” or all three. Bitches Booze or Boredom. Every time I have gotten in really big trouble it was the 3 B’s that done it.
 
After long reflections on whimsical days of yesteryear, I bet it had something to do with one of the three “B’s” or all three. Bitches Booze or Boredom. Every time I have gotten in really big trouble it was the 3 B’s that done it.

kinda along the lines of what i am thinking. add to that, doing what they do...it's not all that hard to lose your way. if you stop and think about it, it's a wonder it doesnt happen more.