Self Spotting

NY700

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So I am new to this level of shooting and I know this may be very elimentrary for many of you. But I was hoping someone could describe in some detail the proper mechanics for follow through on a shot and make it possible to spot your own shot. I have a heavy rig on a harris bipod. And what i find is that the rifle seems to jump up and to the left. any thoughts to a newbie would be great.
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NY700,

Back in the day I thought I was a bad ass because I could spot the majority of my rounds at 500 and beyond. The day I walked into PR 1&2 at Rifles Only my platform changed and in the past few years I felt really good spotting my own rounds at 300 and beyond. Just in the past 6 months I am to the point of bringing that into the 100 yard mark because of things I learned at Rifles Only the last time I went down.

It has to do with much more than just loading the bipod and Natural point of aim. Rather than try to explain it I would also second what was already said from the others before me, sign up for the Sniper's Hide Online Training, it is worth it. Or go to Rifles Only for a class or do both and be that much ahead of the curve.
 
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Following through, that's to say, controlling the rifle until recoil subsides, will give you recognition of your sight's relationship with the target as the bullet clears the bore; thus, you'll know where the bullet strike should be. Plotting the location of the suspected hit is known as "calling-the-shot".

Calling your shots is essential to becoming a good shot. It will help you to trouble-shoot (get to the source of the problem) when shots do not go where desired. For example, a shot not on-call could mean the sight needs to be adjusted, and/or wind not correctly countered. A shot on-call, but not "right-in-there" may say something about not adjusting NPA.

Shooters who are ignorant about the necessity for following-through will have an ordeal just attempting to zero a gun; plus, chasing spotters from non-existent wind is highly probable. Of course, failure to follow-through is likely to result in the rifle pointed in a very different direction than where needed for a good hit, since the brain, believing the job is done upon trigger pull, allows muscles to relax before the bullet has actually left the bore.

There's not much to learning how to follow-through, just maintain aim until recoil subsides. You only need to will it to happen, that's to say, tell your brain you want to continue to aim, even though having executed the firing task.

 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rifles Only</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sniper's Hide Online Training </div></div>

+1. Your issue is addressed there, and in my experience, corrected.
 
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WADR
the gun will shift if you are not driving it right. Using a MB to compensate for muzzle jump can cause all sorts of unpredictable diagonal stringing depending on bullet weight and velocity.
This is simple physical law. Equal and opposite reaction to force.
Give the rifle something solid and square to recoil against and it will not jump. Manipulate the trigger without undue right or left pressure and the rifle will recoil straight.
If the gun is jumping, I can assure you it is the driver and not the rifle
 
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What about a regular muzzle brake? Not to compensate for the jump to the side but to reduce the overall recoil.

I'd love to run a suppressor for the same, and other, reason but that is not going to happen in NY....
 
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You don't need a muzzle brake on a .308; nobody does.

Follow-through tells you what happened, but not how to fix it.

Work on getting your body straight behind the rifle.

Jacob: your coaching on my trigger-finger position is still paying dividends - even four months later. Thank You!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Follow-through tells you what happened, but not how to fix it.

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Follow through will assure being able to call the shot, which will, indeed, suggest where to trouble shoot.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sterling Shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Follow through will assure being able to call the shot, which will, indeed, suggest where to trouble shoot.</div></div>True. It just won't tell you how to shoot the trouble.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rifles Only</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sniper's Hide Online Training </div></div>

with out a doubt <span style="font-size: 17pt">+1</span>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crumpmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am guessing "What A Dumb Reply " But....... </div></div> Good guess.
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