Sherrif vs Police
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US Marshals are FEDERAL Agents mostly assigned to Fugitive recovery and prison transports..
US Marshals are FEDERAL Agents mostly assigned to Fugitive recovery and prison transports..
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lol, why did you feel the necessity to add the (legally) part? Anyways, welcome to the US. I'm done thread jacking.
lol, why did you feel the necessity to add the (legally) part? Anyways, welcome to the US. I'm done thread jacking.
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Hey...I made it a whole week in Az and no one asked me for my papers...very dissapointed.All jokes aside, being a legal alien(sounds so cool) I understand the problem of immigration and realise why people are so sensitive about it. Just figured I would put some over active minds to rest.
Hey...I made it a whole week in Az and no one asked me for my papers...very dissapointed.All jokes aside, being a legal alien(sounds so cool) I understand the problem of immigration and realise why people are so sensitive about it. Just figured I would put some over active minds to rest.
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Damn, I thought this was gonna be a brown uniform vs. blue uniform thread. Oh well.
Damn, I thought this was gonna be a brown uniform vs. blue uniform thread. Oh well.
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In some places the SD has patrol responsibilities and arrest powers for both criminal and traffic offenses, and they function as a county-wide police department. In others, it's just courthouse security, prisoner transport and custody, and running the jail facilities, although they will generally have arrest powers for clear breaches of peace and public order. The Sheriff might or might not be the ranking law enforcement presence in a given county. In some places, I understand, it's actually the District Attorney. The Police, on the other hand, usually have primary responsibility for patrol of a given area and investigation of crimes committed therein, be it a city, a county, or a state.
In some places the SD has patrol responsibilities and arrest powers for both criminal and traffic offenses, and they function as a county-wide police department. In others, it's just courthouse security, prisoner transport and custody, and running the jail facilities, although they will generally have arrest powers for clear breaches of peace and public order. The Sheriff might or might not be the ranking law enforcement presence in a given county. In some places, I understand, it's actually the District Attorney. The Police, on the other hand, usually have primary responsibility for patrol of a given area and investigation of crimes committed therein, be it a city, a county, or a state.
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But theres more!
Depending upon which state you are in....State Patrol, Homeland Security, Border Patrol, GAME WARDENS, FBI, holy cow....don't think you could list 'em all!
But theres more!
Depending upon which state you are in....State Patrol, Homeland Security, Border Patrol, GAME WARDENS, FBI, holy cow....don't think you could list 'em all!
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Welcome to America. We have thousands of underfunded, undertrained, underpaid, poorly coordinated agencies spread out on top of overlapping jurisdictions. Not to mention the various federal overlay organizations that may or may not coordinate with the locals.
I live at the base of Pike's Peak. If I go west 14 miles to Woodland Park in the mountains, I drive through EIGHT different local LE agencies. The District Attorney's office here prosecutes cases for 23 jurisdictions.
What country did you come from? Did they have a National Police? A US friend of mine lived in France for 9 years and through his diplomatic work was well tied in with the Gendarmerie National. He explained to me how it worked there, even taking me down to the local station for a visit. It is nothing like that here.
"National Police" is a term most of us here fear, and our constitution says it cannot exist.
Does that help?
Welcome to America. We have thousands of underfunded, undertrained, underpaid, poorly coordinated agencies spread out on top of overlapping jurisdictions. Not to mention the various federal overlay organizations that may or may not coordinate with the locals.
I live at the base of Pike's Peak. If I go west 14 miles to Woodland Park in the mountains, I drive through EIGHT different local LE agencies. The District Attorney's office here prosecutes cases for 23 jurisdictions.
What country did you come from? Did they have a National Police? A US friend of mine lived in France for 9 years and through his diplomatic work was well tied in with the Gendarmerie National. He explained to me how it worked there, even taking me down to the local station for a visit. It is nothing like that here.
"National Police" is a term most of us here fear, and our constitution says it cannot exist.
Does that help?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In some places the SD has patrol responsibilities and arrest powers for both criminal and traffic offenses, and they function as a county-wide police department. In others, it's just courthouse security, prisoner transport and custody, and running the jail facilities, although they will generally have arrest powers for clear breaches of peace and public order. The Sheriff might or might not be the ranking law enforcement presence in a given county. In some places, I understand, it's actually the District Attorney. The Police, on the other hand, usually have primary responsibility for patrol of a given area and investigation of crimes committed therein, be it a city, a county, or a state. </div></div>
The Sheriff is the senior most law enforcement officer in the county (or parish, if you're from LA), and has arrest powers over anyone (including federal agents) in his jurisdiction.
The coroner is the only person with the authority to arrest the sheriff.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In some places the SD has patrol responsibilities and arrest powers for both criminal and traffic offenses, and they function as a county-wide police department. In others, it's just courthouse security, prisoner transport and custody, and running the jail facilities, although they will generally have arrest powers for clear breaches of peace and public order. The Sheriff might or might not be the ranking law enforcement presence in a given county. In some places, I understand, it's actually the District Attorney. The Police, on the other hand, usually have primary responsibility for patrol of a given area and investigation of crimes committed therein, be it a city, a county, or a state. </div></div>
The Sheriff is the senior most law enforcement officer in the county (or parish, if you're from LA), and has arrest powers over anyone (including federal agents) in his jurisdiction.
The coroner is the only person with the authority to arrest the sheriff.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: _9H</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Welcome to America. We have thousands of underfunded, undertrained, underpaid, poorly coordinated agencies spread out on top of overlapping jurisdictions. Not to mention the various federal overlay organizations that may or may not coordinate with the locals.
I live at the base of Pike's Peak. If I go west 14 miles to Woodland Park in the mountains, I drive through EIGHT different local LE agencies. The District Attorney's office here prosecutes cases for 23 jurisdictions.
What country did you come from? Did they have a National Police? A US friend of mine lived in France for 9 years and through his diplomatic work was well tied in with the Gendarmerie National. He explained to me how it worked there, even taking me down to the local station for a visit. It is nothing like that here.
"National Police" is a term most of us here fear, and our constitution says it cannot exist.
Does that help?</div></div>
Don't forget Kalifornia, as that number will double here.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: _9H</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Welcome to America. We have thousands of underfunded, undertrained, underpaid, poorly coordinated agencies spread out on top of overlapping jurisdictions. Not to mention the various federal overlay organizations that may or may not coordinate with the locals.
I live at the base of Pike's Peak. If I go west 14 miles to Woodland Park in the mountains, I drive through EIGHT different local LE agencies. The District Attorney's office here prosecutes cases for 23 jurisdictions.
What country did you come from? Did they have a National Police? A US friend of mine lived in France for 9 years and through his diplomatic work was well tied in with the Gendarmerie National. He explained to me how it worked there, even taking me down to the local station for a visit. It is nothing like that here.
"National Police" is a term most of us here fear, and our constitution says it cannot exist.
Does that help?</div></div>
Don't forget Kalifornia, as that number will double here.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David Walter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In some places the SD has patrol responsibilities and arrest powers for both criminal and traffic offenses, and they function as a county-wide police department. In others, it's just courthouse security, prisoner transport and custody, and running the jail facilities, although they will generally have arrest powers for clear breaches of peace and public order. The Sheriff might or might not be the ranking law enforcement presence in a given county. In some places, I understand, it's actually the District Attorney. The Police, on the other hand, usually have primary responsibility for patrol of a given area and investigation of crimes committed therein, be it a city, a county, or a state. </div></div>
The Sheriff is the senior most law enforcement officer in the county (or parish, if you're from LA), and has arrest powers over anyone (including federal agents) in his jurisdiction.
The coroner is the only person with the authority to arrest the sheriff. </div></div>
THis is exactly correct.
Has a croner ever arrested a Sheriff? THat would be a sight.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David Walter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In some places the SD has patrol responsibilities and arrest powers for both criminal and traffic offenses, and they function as a county-wide police department. In others, it's just courthouse security, prisoner transport and custody, and running the jail facilities, although they will generally have arrest powers for clear breaches of peace and public order. The Sheriff might or might not be the ranking law enforcement presence in a given county. In some places, I understand, it's actually the District Attorney. The Police, on the other hand, usually have primary responsibility for patrol of a given area and investigation of crimes committed therein, be it a city, a county, or a state. </div></div>
The Sheriff is the senior most law enforcement officer in the county (or parish, if you're from LA), and has arrest powers over anyone (including federal agents) in his jurisdiction.
The coroner is the only person with the authority to arrest the sheriff. </div></div>
THis is exactly correct.
Has a croner ever arrested a Sheriff? THat would be a sight.
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Also, the number of Sheriff Department personel out there is shrinking as cities expand/annex and incorporate.
I'd wager to say eventually Sheriff Departments will be obsolete...
Also, the number of Sheriff Department personel out there is shrinking as cities expand/annex and incorporate.
I'd wager to say eventually Sheriff Departments will be obsolete...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GardDog223</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn, I thought this was gonna be a brown uniform vs. blue uniform thread. Oh well. </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GardDog223</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn, I thought this was gonna be a brown uniform vs. blue uniform thread. Oh well. </div></div>
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Having worked law enforcement in two different states I can tell you that there are way too many differences from state to state. I am a sheriffs deputy and in my county at least there is no coroner to arrest the sheriff. We have medical examiners and I am unsure as to their authority. Also, in this jurisdiction, the chief of police is elected so he also serves for a term. The last would depend on whether you have a city manager form of govt. or mayor/council where the mayor is the head law enforcement person and appoints a chief. As a general rule, federal authorities have the right to come in and do as they please. They usually come in and let us know what is going on and ask for assistance, but are not required to as they have national jurisdiction. The State Police are another to be figured in. They have statewide jurisdiction even over the sheriff. Some have a criminal investigation section and others this is seperate. Most of the law enforcement agencies get along with each other but every once in a while some will get that stepped on toes feeling. It can get very complicated just educate yourself on the setup in your state.
Having worked law enforcement in two different states I can tell you that there are way too many differences from state to state. I am a sheriffs deputy and in my county at least there is no coroner to arrest the sheriff. We have medical examiners and I am unsure as to their authority. Also, in this jurisdiction, the chief of police is elected so he also serves for a term. The last would depend on whether you have a city manager form of govt. or mayor/council where the mayor is the head law enforcement person and appoints a chief. As a general rule, federal authorities have the right to come in and do as they please. They usually come in and let us know what is going on and ask for assistance, but are not required to as they have national jurisdiction. The State Police are another to be figured in. They have statewide jurisdiction even over the sheriff. Some have a criminal investigation section and others this is seperate. Most of the law enforcement agencies get along with each other but every once in a while some will get that stepped on toes feeling. It can get very complicated just educate yourself on the setup in your state.
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Welcome to the USA! Now lets talk about Rangers! These are typically the guys/gals that will come to your camp and hang out at the fire with you, good people.
All in all, they are the same, be good, don't be rude and they will risk their lives at the drop of a hat when you are in trouble.
Welcome to the USA! Now lets talk about Rangers! These are typically the guys/gals that will come to your camp and hang out at the fire with you, good people.
All in all, they are the same, be good, don't be rude and they will risk their lives at the drop of a hat when you are in trouble.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OneLunG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also, the number of Sheriff Department personel out there is shrinking as cities expand/annex and incorporate.
I'd wager to say eventually Sheriff Departments will be obsolete... </div></div>
I disagree, if anything they'll just be in charge of courthouse security and jails. I don't see them going away entirely.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OneLunG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also, the number of Sheriff Department personel out there is shrinking as cities expand/annex and incorporate.
I'd wager to say eventually Sheriff Departments will be obsolete... </div></div>
I disagree, if anything they'll just be in charge of courthouse security and jails. I don't see them going away entirely.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: _9H</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
What country did you come from? Did they have a National Police? A US friend of mine lived in France for 9 years and through his diplomatic work was well tied in with the Gendarmerie National. He explained to me how it worked there, even taking me down to the local station for a visit. It is nothing like that here.
"National Police" is a term most of us here fear, and our constitution says it cannot exist.
Does that help? </div></div>
We have a national police service. They changed the name from South African Police Force to South African Police Service when the new govt. came in. Apparently it makes it sound less like a paramilitary. We also in recent years, now have Metro police. They are municipal police.They are a real bunch of corrupt jokers.Constantly being bust for extortion and police brutality. For a while we had a unit called The Scorpions. They fell under the National Prosecuting Authority and were tasked with investigating fraud and corruption. They were so good at their job, busting corrupt politicians, that the govt. disbanded them. Let that sink in for a while. They were absorbed into the SAP (police) which is govt run. We have a unit called Special Task Force.They deal with kidnappings, bank robberies and violent crimes. They are like a Special Forces SWAT team if you like. There is documentary about them posted on you tube.Would not mess with them. Our ex police commisioner just got put in jail for 15yrs or something like that. Turns out (shortly after being put in charge of Interpol, briefly) he got bust in a drug ring. Our cops make about 300-500 dollars a month.The last figure I heard, 1 cop gets killed every 36hrs and because of the life they live we are constantly hearing of cops killing their families and then themselves. My heart goes out to them.Imagine earning a barely livable wage and when you go home at night, your gangster neighbours surround you on all 4 sides and there is no way you can afford to get out of that situation.
It has been refreshing dealing with the police here.So much more professional and trustworthy. At least the ones I had to deal with.
Again, thank you for the welcomes.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: _9H</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
What country did you come from? Did they have a National Police? A US friend of mine lived in France for 9 years and through his diplomatic work was well tied in with the Gendarmerie National. He explained to me how it worked there, even taking me down to the local station for a visit. It is nothing like that here.
"National Police" is a term most of us here fear, and our constitution says it cannot exist.
Does that help? </div></div>
We have a national police service. They changed the name from South African Police Force to South African Police Service when the new govt. came in. Apparently it makes it sound less like a paramilitary. We also in recent years, now have Metro police. They are municipal police.They are a real bunch of corrupt jokers.Constantly being bust for extortion and police brutality. For a while we had a unit called The Scorpions. They fell under the National Prosecuting Authority and were tasked with investigating fraud and corruption. They were so good at their job, busting corrupt politicians, that the govt. disbanded them. Let that sink in for a while. They were absorbed into the SAP (police) which is govt run. We have a unit called Special Task Force.They deal with kidnappings, bank robberies and violent crimes. They are like a Special Forces SWAT team if you like. There is documentary about them posted on you tube.Would not mess with them. Our ex police commisioner just got put in jail for 15yrs or something like that. Turns out (shortly after being put in charge of Interpol, briefly) he got bust in a drug ring. Our cops make about 300-500 dollars a month.The last figure I heard, 1 cop gets killed every 36hrs and because of the life they live we are constantly hearing of cops killing their families and then themselves. My heart goes out to them.Imagine earning a barely livable wage and when you go home at night, your gangster neighbours surround you on all 4 sides and there is no way you can afford to get out of that situation.
It has been refreshing dealing with the police here.So much more professional and trustworthy. At least the ones I had to deal with.
Again, thank you for the welcomes.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David Walter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In some places the SD has patrol responsibilities and arrest powers for both criminal and traffic offenses, and they function as a county-wide police department. In others, it's just courthouse security, prisoner transport and custody, and running the jail facilities, although they will generally have arrest powers for clear breaches of peace and public order. The Sheriff might or might not be the ranking law enforcement presence in a given county. In some places, I understand, it's actually the District Attorney. The Police, on the other hand, usually have primary responsibility for patrol of a given area and investigation of crimes committed therein, be it a city, a county, or a state. </div></div>
The Sheriff is the senior most law enforcement officer in the county (or parish, if you're from LA), and has arrest powers over anyone (including federal agents) in his jurisdiction.
The coroner is the only person with the authority to arrest the sheriff. </div></div>
Au Contraire Mon Frere
In Orleans Parish, Louisiana the Superintendant of the New Orleans Police is the highest law enforcement officer. We are the only parish / county in the US as such.
Home Rule Charter of the City of New Orleans grants that power. The Home Rule Chater states that any entity who would enforce laws in the city and parish of Orleans must be deputized by the Superintendent of Police. That includes the sheriff deputies (Civil and Criminal) and state police troopers. Yes LSP must be deputized to enforce laws in New Orleans, and we also have two Sheriff's, a Civil Sheriff and a Criminal Sheriff who are both elected. The Superintendant of Police is apopointed. Gota love the ole Louisiana Purchase.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David Walter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In some places the SD has patrol responsibilities and arrest powers for both criminal and traffic offenses, and they function as a county-wide police department. In others, it's just courthouse security, prisoner transport and custody, and running the jail facilities, although they will generally have arrest powers for clear breaches of peace and public order. The Sheriff might or might not be the ranking law enforcement presence in a given county. In some places, I understand, it's actually the District Attorney. The Police, on the other hand, usually have primary responsibility for patrol of a given area and investigation of crimes committed therein, be it a city, a county, or a state. </div></div>
The Sheriff is the senior most law enforcement officer in the county (or parish, if you're from LA), and has arrest powers over anyone (including federal agents) in his jurisdiction.
The coroner is the only person with the authority to arrest the sheriff. </div></div>
Au Contraire Mon Frere
In Orleans Parish, Louisiana the Superintendant of the New Orleans Police is the highest law enforcement officer. We are the only parish / county in the US as such.
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