Sig is releasing Gen 3 updates of the MCX platform:
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- AR drop in trigger
- 1 lb lighter
- Slimmer handguard
- 7.62 version coming soon
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you means for the MPX? Yeah i am still pissed about that .. and pissed when they had that shroud the atf didnt approve (but impact guns still took my deposit and still havent given it back). I have a Gen 1 Mpx cut down to sbr 4" with a octane can on it and it has never failed. Have a gen 2 upper i never had to get out the box.and still no barrel conversions available.
I was lucky to get a Sig Spear (waiting for my eform) and i have 2 sig gen 2 , very nice guns. Sig revised both the MCX and MPX to gen 3.
video of mcx 3 and spear here
mpx 3
yes sig is selling the 277 fury .. bought like 300 rounds a month agoHave any ammo for it?
I am guessing the case is not reloadable?yes sig is selling the 277 fury .. bought like 300 rounds a month ago
That's what I am curious about. If so I gets a little more interestingI am guessing the case is not reloadable?
virtus conversions: https://www.sigsauer.com/mcx-virtus-11-5-caliber-exchange-kit-5-56.html. They have been out of stock for years.you means for the MPX? Yeah i am still pissed about that .. and pissed when they had that shroud the atf didnt approve (but impact guns still took my deposit and still havent given it back). I have a Gen 1 Mpx cut down to sbr 4" with a octane can on it and it has never failed. Have a gen 2 upper i never had to get out the box.
Sig couldn't fix the MPX in the first 37 iterations they refused to assign a "gen" number to, not sure I trust them to fix it this time They have great marketing though, too bad the execution of the actual product doesn't get that much attention.
I'd disagree, the MPX in Gen 2 had lots of issues and updates. Broken firing pins and firing pin springs in early Gen 2's that required a new bolt/firing pin design, several chamber ramp iterations to improve feeding. They had to change the barrel retaining bolts from individual bolts to a 1 piece design, because people were stripping the upper receiver recessions for them (factory loctite required too much torque to break them free and rounded out the flats in the upper that held the bolts). They had to change the bolt cam pin to the new "bowtie" version because it was badly gouging uppers (to be fair some of those were probably users putting it in backwards, though I'd make the case that a bolt cam pin that can't be installed either way like basically every AR is asking for user issues). They had gas issues and had to go from a variable gas tappet to a fixed open plug. They had extractor issues, with early Gen 2's coming with an o-ring, later versions did not, people report both working well, some found extraction issues were due to the extractor spring being installed upside down. They changed the design of the recoil spring plate due to failures. They also had lots of issues with the extractors coming loose, and also cam plates.The MPX had a minor but meaningful upgrade from Gen 1 to Gen 2 (gas port opened up). Gen 2 was great except for the trigger. It was hot garbage, but a Geissele trigger cleaned that right up. Now it‘s one of the best sub guns out there.
As for the MCX, can’t wait to pick up a Gen 3. Passed on the Gen 2 due to other priorities, but will try to pick up the new model.
I'd disagree, the MPX in Gen 2 had lots of issues and updates. Broken firing pins and firing pin springs in early Gen 2's that required a new bolt/firing pin design, several chamber ramp iterations to improve feeding. They had to change the barrel retaining bolts from individual bolts to a 1 piece design, because people were stripping the upper receiver recessions for them (factory loctite required too much torque to break them free and rounded out the flats in the upper that held the bolts). They had to change the bolt cam pin to the new "bowtie" version because it was badly gouging uppers (to be fair some of those were probably users putting it in backwards, though I'd make the case that a bolt cam pin that can't be installed either way like basically every AR is asking for user issues). They had gas issues and had to go from a variable gas tappet to a fixed open plug. They had extractor issues, with early Gen 2's coming with an o-ring, later versions did not, people report both working well, some found extraction issues were due to the extractor spring being installed upside down. They changed the design of the recoil spring plate due to failures. They also had lots of issues with the extractors coming loose, and also cam plates.
That's just the things I know about.....
I'd be willing to bet that all of these "Gen 2" changes were one reason why especially early in the Gen 2 MPX lots of people were having tons of issues, while others were having none. Sig took so much bad press for bringing out the Gen 2 less than a year after the Gen 1, they learned their lesson, now they won't attach "Gen X" to most guns.
Yeah, this is really the only thing that is holding me back from picking up a MCX. Maybe I have been spoiled by shooting LMT's for years, but the lack of spare barrels sort of puts me off the platform as the platform is marketed as this cool modular concept that can be configured in over 500 configurations, but they only have like two or three barrel options.I was lucky to get a 300 blackout conversion kit for my 5.56 Gen 2 MCX Virtus. It has been impossible to buy one from SIG for years now. It is such a great concept but for some reason SIG just stopped manufacturing these conversion kits.
If you ask an MPX owner... why no, not at all, I have no idea what you are talking about, the gun is amazing, and despite it's full auto cyclic rate being 1150rpm and it beats the shit out of triggers - of course it has a the action stays closed for the entire dwell time and isn't gassy! My Gun and My Ammo and My Can is perfect!Still as gassy as Auschwitz? Too soon?
If you ask an MPX owner... why no, not at all, I have no idea what you are talking about, the gun is amazing, and despite it's full auto cyclic rate being 1150rpm and it beats the shit out of triggers - of course it has a the action stays closed for the entire dwell time and isn't gassy! My Gun and My Ammo and My Can is perfect!
... But if you ask anyone not financially invested in it... they can tell you in about two suppressed shots.
If they didn't fuck up the cyclic rate / dwell time / gas on this gun, it would have absolutely dominated the MP5 and every other PCC market. People don't actually care about $70 mags because look at the fucking MP5. The hush part of this gun is that it's an aggressive little asshole when suppressed; that it's light reciprocating mass and super fast action and quick cyclic rate are desirable for competition but utterly blow suppressed.
I’ve sold all 3 of mine so I’m no longer financially invested, and I can tell you that you’re wrong. I also shot all 3 of them suppressed. It’s the best PCC on the market by far.
Jesus Sig is a fucking dumpster fire. My department are issued these with cans. Can’t shoot them with out glasses due to the horrendous gas blowback hitting you in the face. And now a new Gen already. It’s amazing they are as successful as they are as a company. Their business model seems to be let the consumer be beta testers and go from there…
What are you guys installing those sig cans on?Jesus Sig is a fucking dumpster fire. My department are issued these with cans. Can’t shoot them with out glasses due to the horrendous gas blowback hitting you in the face. And now a new Gen already. It’s amazing they are as successful as they are as a company. Their business model seems to be let the consumer be beta testers and go from there…
If you’re relying on the charging handle to fix your problem, the gun wasn’t designed to run well suppressed from the start. A PWS upper is likely a better suppressor host than most of the current sig lineup.My MCX Virtus 16” 556 is only gassy with a Radian CH and it was miserable with that thing for some reason. With the factory CH it’s very low gas. That’s running an AAC can too.
I had a PWS upper and sold it after acquiring the Virtus as it was worse in nearly every way, about as heavy and blowback between the two was a negligible difference. Compared to a similar length Geissele upper, the PWS was heavier, either over gassed or wouldn't reliably cycle depending on gas setting (tried several buffers), less accurate and really performed no different gas BB wise.If you’re relying on the charging handle to fix your problem, the gun wasn’t designed to run well suppressed from the start. A PWS upper is likely a better suppressor host than most of the current sig lineup.
Sounds like you had a defective gas block or something. The PWS can switch between unsuppressed and suppressed settings. Something No AR can do aside from a switch block or adjustable gas block which wears down over time. My PWS is more accurate than my centurion arms and BCM barrels. Gas BB on the PWS is much less than a DI gun aside from possibly a extreme reduced gas port which won’t run unsuppressed so no merit in even comparing them really.I have a lot of time with a Virtus with a 13.5" 5.56 barrel now. I've used a Sandman S and a Hybrid on it with no blowback to the shooter and I've done some mag dumps to try and get it to gas me out. Poor suppressor choice will make almost any rifle suck tho and these cans are known to be low blowback. However, I haven't shot any other versions to compare it to. Mine is super smooth shooting and the only real negative is that it is heavier than an equivalent AR15 and of course Sig.
I had a PWS upper and sold it after acquiring the Virtus as it was worse in nearly every way, about as heavy and blowback between the two was a negligible difference. Compared to a similar length Geissele upper, the PWS was heavier, either over gassed or wouldn't reliably cycle depending on gas setting (tried several buffers), less accurate and really performed no different gas BB wise.