Slob Hunters Bagged in AK, But Good

[Supersubes]

I’m familiar with it. What I’m getting at is a guide will cost crap tons of money. So that makes moose hunts cost thousands of dollars. Guides don’t work for free.

Guides aren’t required for moose hunts, read it again. That section requires a guide for Brown bear, grizzly bear, sheep, and mountain goat.


I said it in my original post, but i’ll say it again. It isn’t the govt charging tens of thousands. The cost is caused by limited tag numbers and outfitter fees.

 

[Peterpan]

Guides aren’t required for moose hunts, read it again. That section requires a guide for Brown bear, grizzly bear, sheep, and mountain goat.


I said it in my original post, but i’ll say it again. It isn’t the govt charging tens of thousands. The cost is caused by limited tag numbers and outfitter fees.

Dude, it all gets back to the government whether it’s tags, vehicle permits, or taxes.

 

[Alphatreedog]

for the most part....hunting isnt done for food......yes there are a few exceptions......but meat is cheap and plentiful in most of the country......

hunting is done for recreation, and done for game control......we eat the meat because its good and we dont want to waste the animal.

if you are legitimately starving and in an emergency situation and you cant get food any other way....yeah shoot all the animals you want.....i dont care about poaching, human life is more important.

if you are hunting for sport, which is 99% of hunters in America.....its done for recreation....you dont NEED to hunt

poaching....especially on animals with small populations.....is extremely dangerous.....as those populations are monitored and maintained....and hunting licenses are issued based on the population size.

well if youre out there killing more animals than the population can sustain.....that animal is going to die off in that area (bad for everyone)

also.....for every animal you poach.....that is one less animal a legitimate hunter can harvest.

its not "just killing an animal you dont have a tag for".....its potentially damaging to the animal species.

90% of the hunters I know are freezer hunters . Bucks County issues near unlimited doe tags in some regions and many guys are good with three does in the freezer over a trophy buck . As for AK there are quite a few su aitance hunters . I firmly believe that they would take great issue with these two fuck knobs .

 

[MtnCreek]

We have some subsistence hunters around here and they say the only seasons we have are salt and pepper.

 

[Supersubes]

Dude, it all gets back to the government whether it’s tags, vehicle permits, or taxes.

Dude, you need more tinfoil on that hat of yours.

 

[ArmyJerry]

true

Dude, it all gets back to the government whether it’s tags, vehicle permits, or taxes.

 

[Peterpan]

Dude, you need more tinfoil on that hat of yours.

How do you figure. There has never been a dollar spent that was not been taxed and who get the tax collections?? You guessed it the government it I did have a hit like that it wouldn't be made of tin foil. It would be some kind of glass so thermal wouldn't pick it up as easily lol

 

[ArmyJerry]

well they borrow more than they actually tax us so thats not true.

 

[Ric O'shay]

Here is a novel Idea. Do not travel thousands of miles to commit a felony. Better yet try real hard not to commit any at all.

 

[Peterpan]

well they borrow more than they actually tax us so thats not true.

Lol look where they are borrowing it from. Most of it is borrowed from the tax payer. Instead of taxing they have just went straight to stealing outa social security and the like

 

[Supersubes]

How do you figure. There has never been a dollar spent that was not been taxed and who get the tax collections?? You guessed it the government it I did have a hit like that it wouldn't be made of tin foil. It would be some kind of glass so thermal wouldn't pick it up as easily lol

You lament the high cost of moose and other big games hunts, and blame the govt for it. Obviously there are fees/taxes associated with it. That has very little to do with the high cost of those hunts. More hunters than there are tags, pretty simple. As long as rich guys are willing to pay $20 for a bull elk hunt(for example), and they sell every one of them, the cost is not going down.

A close personal friend who owned a BC hunting concession for many years, had ~30 grizzly hunts a year to sell to clients. Right before he sold the concession due to declining quotas, the province had lowered it to 2. They similarly lowered everyone else’s quotas. How expensive do you think those few grizzly hunts cost? Had nothing to do with taxes. BC has banned grizzly hunts province wide now. What do you think that’s done to grizzly hunt prices everywhere else they can be hunted. You guessed it, skyrocketing. Nothing to do with taxes. I hunt black bear with that same outfitter every year. Tag price is nearly the same as it is for the brown bear, but the hunt is cheap by comparison. Does the govt just say fuck it, we don’t care about 30,000 black bear hunters, but we’re really gonna stick it to those moose hunters. No, sorry. Simple economics is the answer.

 

[Peterpan]

You lament the high cost of moose and other big games hunts, and blame the govt for it. Obviously there are fees/taxes associated with it. That has very little to do with the high cost of those hunts. More hunters than there are tags, pretty simple. As long as rich guys are willing to pay $20 for a bull elk hunt(for example), and they sell every one of them, the cost is not going down.

A close personal friend who owned a BC hunting concession for many years, had ~30 grizzly hunts a year to sell to clients. Right before he sold the concession due to declining quotas, the province had lowered it to 2. They similarly lowered everyone else’s quotas. How expensive do you think those few grizzly hunts cost? Had nothing to do with taxes. BC has banned grizzly hunts province wide now. What do you think that’s done to grizzly hunt prices everywhere else they can be hunted. You guessed it, skyrocketing. Nothing to do with taxes. I hunt black bear with that same outfitter every year. Tag price is nearly the same as it is for the brown bear, but the hunt is cheap by comparison. Does the govt just say fuck it, we don’t care about 30,000 black bear hunters, but we’re really gonna stick it to those moose hunters. No, sorry. Simple economics is the answer.

It’s all about money dude or the tags would be free. Bottom line. Every dime spent on a moose hunt is taxed. They limit the non resident tags to the degree you may put in for years and never get one.

 

[Ric O'shay]

"News Flash" Peter... The Govt. has it's hand so far up your ass it can reach your wallet, even if you keep it in a jacket pocket.

This is a gun forum, many are all too familiar with handing over hard earned money for the "permission stamp" to purchase a suppressor, SBR, or automatic firearm. We kind of get the tax thing. Pretty much everything is about money, and taxation is how the Govt. collects your share.

 

[308220]

Havent read through this entire thread. Only the first page.

However, I feel 4 years in prison for shooting an animal without a tag is pure bullshit.


Tags/Licenses is ONLY about money. Hunting licenses and tags can be issued for FREE if it wasnt about money. But, we have to pay for them every fucking year. And bag limits can still be enforced. No animal is going to be hunted to extiction with free tags/licenses.

We're the richest country the world has ever known, yet we have to pay to shoot an animal of private/publically owned land. While also, feeding those animals.

Should we start sending the states an invoice every year for all the grass and corn those animals eat off our private property? Those animals are "owned" by the state, right?