Small rifle safe for an apartment.

[TurdFerguson]

Possibly moving soon to a new job in another area. Will be in an apartment for a bit. Looking at a Winchester safe from tsc. I assume if I hide/bolt it down would it be ok? Mainly plan to keep an ar, pistol, hunting rifle and shotgun until I fully move. Main safe is in a safer location at parent while moving

 

[diverdon]

Gun safe? Make sure they have a extra parking slot for the model "A".

Liberty's are ok. You can roll them around on short lengths of PVC, and if you throw a few bags of lead shot in the bottom you may not need to bolt it down.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

I've no idea of your location, nor any idea of the construction of said apartment.

Around here, you're not allowed to 'drill into the floors' of apartments. Most apartments here are made with 'pre-stressed' concrete floors. That means (as has been explained to me specifically for this purpose) that there are cables running the length of the floor. And they are tensioned. Story has it, that one person drilled into the floor on a location, specifically to bolt-down a safe. He hit/weakened said cable, cable snapped, and the floor broke/collapsed etc. and he was liable for it.

How much truth there is to ANY/ALL of that story, I can't say. Nor do I profess to knowing details. This was well over 25 years ago, too.

Just another arrow in the quiver of knowledge. Could very-well be a practice/training arrow, too.

 

[varano14]

I've no idea of your location, nor any idea of the construction of said apartment.

Around here, you're not allowed to 'drill into the floors' of apartments. Most apartments here are made with 'pre-stressed' concrete floors. That means (as has been explained to me specifically for this purpose) that there are cables running the length of the floor. And they are tensioned. Story has it, that one person drilled into the floor on a location, specifically to bolt-down a safe. He hit/weakened said cable, cable snapped, and the floor broke/collapsed etc. and he was liable for it.

How much truth there is to ANY/ALL of that story, I can't say. Nor do I profess to knowing details. This was well over 25 years ago, too.

Just another arrow in the quiver of knowledge. Could very-well be a practice/training arrow, too.

If drilling into the floor is not an option four square/rectangular plastic containers of some sort filled with concrete under the safe would be a pretty good workaround. Sure its not bolted down and someone could move it but a couple hundred pounds of concrete plus whatever the safe weights is a pretty good deterrent to the casual criminal.

 

[kyzim311]

I am currently in a similar situation, and I bought a safe that was as heavy as I could since I cannot bolt mine to the ground. The concrete slabs is a great idea to take that to the next level. If you are on a second or third story that will not be a good option, but it is also much harder to take a safe down a set of stairs unnoticed so I will assume you are on ground level. Another important factor is picking a good neighborhood (if possible). I have neighbors very close, and in a good area so the chances of someone breaking in to begin with are much lower. Not possible in all situations, but a good goal if possible.

 

[Maggot]

For short term Id get a 48" JobBox or similar. I got mine at Home Depot for about $300.The metal is as strong as any safe, its easy to move and a lot cheaper. The locks are designed so you cant cut them off. Just fill the bottom with ammo (or anything heavy) and put a blanket on top. If you have enough weight in it it isnt going anywhere.

 

[Slash0311]

Most criminals aren't real savvy with safes. I won't go into specifics but limiting access like in a closet or tight space would be ideal if you can't bolt it down. Can you bolt it to a wall?

 

[Snipe260]

C4! Done

 

[TheBigCountry]

Possibly moving soon to a new job in another area. Will be in an apartment for a bit. Looking at a Winchester safe from tsc. I assume if I hide/bolt it down would it be ok? Mainly plan to keep an ar, pistol, hunting rifle and shotgun until I fully move. Main safe is in a safer location at parent while moving

I have that exact safe. I like it for the price I paid, but I have already out grown it and am having to upgrade.