Rifle Scopes SN10 for the wife and kids

[Alaskaman11]

My next build, I'm going to build for my wife and daughter. I'm putting a 700 short action in ether 308 or 6x47. Anyway, I was thinking about putting a USO SN10 on it, I do not own one or have I played it, is it an easy unit to teach the wife or kids. I have started teaching the little girl how to mill. I think that the straight power would be easyer. I'm I off course?

 

[Lowlight]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

The ST-10 is a very good scope, if you use that the learning curve should be very low for them.

I would recommend Mil / Mil it will be easier starting out as both the reticle dope and turret dope will be the same.

 

[Alaskaman11]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

Sorry I'm getting use to the iPad, I ment the ST10

 

[doc76251]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

I've got one on the shelf that's in inches (IPHY) w/ matching knobs, $1005.00 + S&H. The math doesn't get any easier than IPHY.

Cheers,

Doc

 

[Lowlight]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doc76251</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've got one on the shelf that's in inches (IPHY) w/ matching knobs, $1005.00 + S&H. The math doesn't get any easier than IPHY.

Cheers,

Doc</div></div>

Sure it does.

Mils use smaller numbers, .5 to 12, as opposed needing to remember 2 to 40, and when people explain inches, they always explain that 1" @ 100, 2" @ 200, etc, which confuses the issue for new learners, where is a Mil is a Mil regardless. The compounding nature of explaining Inches and MOA further clouds the issue.

Sorry for the hijack just saying.

 

[Alaskaman11]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

I was worried more about the power but I also see it as an advantage. KISS method. I know Abby and she will want to shoot 500 yards, is straight 10 power ok for that with a new shooter?

 

[doc76251]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

Hehehehe,

Yeah, I know Frank. I speak all three languages fluently. That being said there is still that whole 27.778 thing to deal with, IPHY just moves the decimal.

Just saying

Cheers,

Doc

 

[doc76251]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

Marines have been doing the deed out to 1K and beyond since before Frank was a Lance Criminal

500 is not a big issue.

Cheers,

Doc

 

[deadly0311]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

Alaska....best thing i can offer is echoing what Frank said, my wife was getting frustrated with mil/moa and ever since i set her up with mil/mil she grasps it alot better and its easier on her and she doesnt get frustrated.

 

[Lowlight]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

Doc,

Here I thought you were a whole lot smarter than that...

27.8, why do any math at all...

Five minutes with excel and you have something that looks like this:

Math for mathematicians

 

[Alaskaman11]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Doc,

Here I thought you were a whole lot smarter than that...

27.8, why do any math at all...

Five minutes with excel and you have something that looks like this:

Math for mathematicians </div></div>

So if I have a moose out there, he is 6 foot at the shoulder, He is reading 3 mil,I can take the 296 and double it........ Right?

 

[doc76251]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskaman 11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
So if I have a moose out there, he is 6 foot at the shoulder, He is reading 3 mil,I can take the 296 and double it........ Right? </div></div>

You'd be off a bit, the last inch measurement is 32", if you took 18 and quadrupled it you would be on within the limits of Franks rounding error.

(27.8 X 72) / 3 = 667.2

Cheers,

Doc

FWIW I have those cheat sheets in all three languages but a bit more refined

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

A mil is a mil no matter the distance, but how big is that? Mils are harder to to convert to units of measure if need be.
A mil is 3.6 inches per hundred yards, no matter the distance, or a mil is 10cm per 100m or 1/1000 of anything...

Any scope that has matching reticle and adjustments fulfills the "believe the bullet" and "dial what you see" mantra.

As with any tool, application should drive choice. Some shooters still work up ballistics in inches of drop (not saying its the best, but if its what they do...)


I aggree with Doc, being fluent in all three languages is the best.

Back to the question-an ST10 would be a great scope for alaskaman11's purpose.

 

[Lowlight]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I aggree with Doc, being fluent in all three languages is the best.
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There is no real reason for a casual shooter, especially his wife and daughter to worry about speaking each language. It's different if you are in the business, I can speak all of them as well, however for a weekend shooter, forget about it.

Learn one, be proficient in that and never look back, it's people who bounce system who never fully reach their potential in any of them. The confuse themselves trying to micro manage the information when none of that is necessary.

Pick a system, stick with that system and don't try to pour more water into the glass then necessary, you'll only make a mess of it.

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

Can't argue with that!

 

[Alaskaman11]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Doc,

Here I thought you were a whole lot smarter than that...

27.8, why do any math at all...

Five minutes with excel and you have something that looks like this:

Math for mathematicians </div></div>

my excelfu is lacking, do they have that table up to 36 inchs?

 

[Lowlight]

Re: SN10 for the wife and kids

That is just an example,

Most people make them yourselves and doesn't take much.

Simply do the math with a calculator and fill in the ranges.

Size of Target in Inches X 27.78 divided by Mil Reading = Range in Yards,

If you want:

Size of Target in Yards, X 1000 divided by Mils = Range in Yards.

Open excel line the top with your target size and the sides with your mil size and work your way across.