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    Had to cut and paste, but it's an interesting article. From the Epoch Times (a very good news source)...



    China Ties to US Riots Exposed by Trevor Loudon
    BY ELLA KIETLINSKA

    October 8, 2020 Updated: October 9, 2020

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    Most of the riots that racked the United States within the last few months were organized by two socialist organizations which have close ties with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), said Trevor Loudon, author, and filmmaker, who has been researching radical and terrorist groups and their covert influence on mainstream politics for more than 30 years.
    The Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO) based out of Minneapolis, an openly pro-CCP organization, and Bay Area-based Liberation Road, with very close ties to the Chinese consulate there and the Chinese Progressive Association (CPA), are behind the recent riots, Loudon said in a recent interview on Epoch Times’ Crossroads program.


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    Liberation Road
    Liberation Road is “basically a Chinese directed movement,” Loudon said. It is a socialist organization, drawing from Marxist ideology, “with a clear focus on building the resistance to Trump,” its website said.
    Liberation Road whose people “burnt Ferguson, Missouri to the ground in 2014,” split from FRSO several years ago over the issue of whether to work with the Democratic Party “and it is the parent body of Black Lives Matter [BLM],” Loudon said.
    Epoch Times PhotoA man holds a Black Lives Matter sign as a police car burns in front of him during a protest outside CNN Center on May 29, 2020, in Atlanta, Georgia. (Elijah Nouvelage/Getty Images)
    Alicia Garza, a co-founder of the Black Lives Matter movement is also the principal of the Black Future Labs project which is “a fiscally sponsored project of the Chinese Progressive Association,” the donation page of the Black Futures Labs stated.
    Some media denied the allegation about links of the Black Future Labs to the Chinese Communist regime because there are two organizations named “Chinese Progressive Association,” one in San Francisco and one in Boston. The Black Future Labs works with only the Chinese Progressive Association in San Francisco which is a different entity than its namesake in Boston, according to the New York Times.
    However, both organizations named Chinese Progressive Association (CPA) “are controlled by Liberation Road,” Loudon said. “Both of them are controlled by Maoist communists who have been a part of the same groups for 50 years now. They might be organizationally autonomous, but they are part of the same movement.”
    The CPA in Boston has very close ties and officially works for the Chinese Consulate in New York, Loudon said, but the Chinese Progressive Association in San Francisco is also very closely tied to the Chinese consulate there. They are “both front groups for the same communist organization” even though they are governed by separate boards, he added.
    In addition, Alicia Garza and two other BLM co-founders are “directly affiliated to Liberation Road,” Loudon said.
    Loudon also explained that Black Lives Matter has links to the CCP through its allied organization Asians for Black Lives. Two leading founders of Asians for Black Lives, Alex Tom and Eric Mar were former leaders of the Chinese Progressive Association, he said.
    Tom openly talked about his contacts with the Chinese Embassy or a Chinese Consulate, and Ma was “a very close ally” of Russell Lowe, an identified spy of the CCP who used to work at the office of Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) for about 20 years, Loudon said.
    Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO)
    Epoch Times PhotoProtesters burn a flag outside President Donald Trump’s campaign rally at the Target Center, in Minneapolis, on Oct. 10, 2019, in Minneapolis. (Jeff Wheeler/Star Tribune via AP)
    FRSO is based on Marxist ideology with a mission to fight for socialism in the United States and seeks to establish a new Communist Party, according to its website.
    Its website openly declares it is pro-China, Loudon said, and it has been part of the Maoist movement for 40 years. It also has close contact with communist China and follows Chinese Communist Party propaganda, even some of its cadres live in China.
    Riots in Minneapolis were sparked by FRSO, specifically by its member Jess Sundin, who also is a leader of the movement called Twin Cities Coalition for Justice 4 Jamar, and the wife of FRSO political secretary, Loudon said.
    Loudon produced a video that includes a podcast showing Sundin, “admitting that she was the main organizer of the riots” and talking about the joy she felt when she saw a police precinct “being burnt to the ground.”
    She also admitted that the violence, looting, and arson were “intrinsically part of the movement,” Loudon said, “It wasn’t a peaceful demonstration being hijacked.”
    Riots and unrest in other cities including Kenosha, Dallas, Houston, Tallahassee, Jacksonville, Miami, Tampa, Salt Lake City, and Los Angeles were organized and coordinated by the same group, Loudon said.
    Loudon wrote that FRSO political secretary Steff Yorek said on the day President Donald Trump was inaugurated, “We need to stay in the streets the entire four years opposing Trump and making the country ungovernable.”
    With reporting from Joshua Philipp.
     
    If I didn't know any better, I'd say that it's beginning to turn into a "Black Lives Don't Matter At All" sorta movement.

    And I, myself, truly don't have an issue with anyone regarding what "shade of human" they are. Now, there are specific individuals that have varied backgrounds to which I've no use for whatsoever,,,, but that is for reasons that they themselves have garnered themselves to be 'not worthy of the human race'.

    But these particular people (linked above) are WANTING to create a whole new level of segregation, discrimination, and "split-society".... which is something that was fought against by so many, for so long, in so many ways.... no?
     
    One belt, one road.

    Seems as if China has a few roads.

    Time to stop ordering a #12 with duck sauce.
     
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    “Chinese food” served in American restaurants is as American as apple pie. So named because it was made by Chinese immigrants, not necessarily because it has resemblance to (beyond inspiration from) the fare consumed in China. The food served in “American Chinese food” restaurants differs from food served in Chinese American homes.
     
    Thats plausible, even pretty clever. DJT was MAGA, including kicking China's ass in trade deals, communist China organized and activated their communist allies here.

    It saved them a trip over here and having Beijing getting nuked for invading the U.S. when they already had communist boots on American soil.
     
    “Chinese food” served in American restaurants is as American as apple pie. So named because it was made by Chinese immigrants, not necessarily because it has resemblance to (beyond inspiration from) the fare consumed in China. The food served in “American Chinese food” restaurants differs from food served in Chinese American homes.


    The "MSG" is commie though....get rid of that shit.
     
    So after HK was stomped on and removed from the media
    they'd like to spread the love.
    Gee, I wonder if the Wooflu was an accident?...

    R


    It happened RIGHT at the point when shit was about to turn hot in HK... Even though HK'ers may not have a lot of guns, or any guns at all, legal or illegal, those students at HK Polytech and other groups were ready to go full on medieval if the PLA entered in force. Even if they, at most, were able to turn a few alleys and narrow streets into killing funnels with the target bows they were shown using, along with pots of boiling water and flaming gasoline poured onto the open rears of troop carriers, they would STILL be able to inflict SIGNIFICANT PLA casualties and capture enough guns and equipment from dead and wounded PLA personnel to keep the fight going for some time. Some of the fighters shown in the broadcasts who were exchanging projectiles with HK police from the roof of the university looked like they have more than enough grit to escalate the fight into full medieval mode and keep it going as long as new gear and equipment gets captured.......... A week later... BAM! Wuhan goes into lockdown. Killer virus. Video of people dropping in the streets... Coincidence? I don't think so...
     
    Hi,

    Its time to role play "The Khashoggi"!!
    I heard it is very compelling and effective form of role play.

    Sincerely,
    Theis
    that "journalist"? :ROFLMAO:
     
    It happened RIGHT at the point when shit was about to turn hot in HK... Even though HK'ers may not have a lot of guns, or any guns at all, legal or illegal, those students at HK Polytech and other groups were ready to go full on medieval if the PLA entered in force. Even if they, at most, were able to turn a few alleys and narrow streets into killing funnels with the target bows they were shown using, along with pots of boiling water and flaming gasoline poured onto the open rears of troop carriers, they would STILL be able to inflict SIGNIFICANT PLA casualties and capture enough guns and equipment from dead and wounded PLA personnel to keep the fight going for some time. Some of the fighters shown in the broadcasts who were exchanging projectiles with HK police from the roof of the university looked like they have more than enough grit to escalate the fight into full medieval mode and keep it going as long as new gear and equipment gets captured.......... A week later... BAM! Wuhan goes into lockdown. Killer virus. Video of people dropping in the streets... Coincidence? I don't think so...

    Or having another ira style insurrection.
     
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    So after HK was stomped on and removed from the media
    they'd like to spread the love.
    Gee, I wonder if the Wooflu was an accident?...

    R
    Chinese government in November 2016:

    Oh, shii, Rump win erection!! Nar we phucked! He gun stick it in are ass an brake it off! Phuk, phuk, phuk! We was shoo Hirarry was gun win erection! How this possibry happen!?

    Hey? How wrong you tink fo you enginreer virus everyone tink come from Bat soup dey sell at market roun corner? Onry 18 month? Make shoo you make it rook rike is natural. We keep it rocked up in fridge till aroun 9 months before nex erection den we ret it roose an phuck up nex erection.

    It going to kirr tousands peepo rover da whirl? Mosry ol and sick peepo? Well, rokay den. As rong as Merican Democrat come ow on top so we no have to dio with Rump for nudda 4 phukkn year! Now get to whir on it tonigh or wee keel your famry.

    (frigging spell check fought me like a honey badger for 15 minutes!)🤐
     
    Cool. Now were can stop this idiotic game of shouting "Soros!" every time something bad happens, and focus on an active enemy.
     
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    Of course the CV-19 was created in a lab. It was designed to put down rebellions and to create instability in countries where the populations are generally uncontrolled by their governments. Western European nations and the US were the targets. The virus had limited lethality but a high rate of transmission, and is both communicable via airborne droplets and contact surfaces. Also important is the ability of the virus to generate a significant portion of the population into carriers that show no signs or symptoms of infection. The goal isn’t to kill off large percentages of populations, but put them under control with fear and then to wreck the economies of the opposition.
    Now couple that with the the BLM/Antifa riots, massive military build up around Taiwan and Japan, saber rattling with India, and time everything perfectly to have the greatest negative effect on the re-election campaign for Trump. With the ties that the Bidens have with the Chinese government and their shell companies, not only is smoke rising, but the flames can be seen from space.
     
    Quoting the Epoch Times on this subject is analogous to quoting Iranian state media on US news. They’re an anti-CCP propaganda outfit rooted in the Chinese cult Falun Gong, who have turned their significant monetary resources towards cultivating an American conservative audience. Propaganda isn’t news; it’s misleading information designed to influence and you are the target.
     
    I wouldn't call Falun Gong exactly a cult, unless you're the Chinese government. That's like saying Fox News is liberal because they are owned by News Corps that also owns SkyNews (which can be very liberal). I subscribe to the paper, and it is far from propaganda. More times than not, they have very well researched and written articles. For the anti-CCP stuff, they (literally) print it as the last page of the paper (easily ignored), so as to not be mixed in with the standard news (kind of like their editorials).

    Not sure what your beef with them is, but I found their reporting to actually be more fact reporting rather than perspective based. Yes, they do report more on things that occur in the east, but they report on world events just as well as any other news source.

    I have found their reporting a nice change of pace, and yet another source of news to compare and contrast to others out there.
     
    I wouldn't call Falun Gong exactly a cult, unless you're the Chinese government. That's like saying Fox News is liberal because they are owned by News Corps that also owns SkyNews (which can be very liberal). I subscribe to the paper, and it is far from propaganda. More times than not, they have very well researched and written articles. For the anti-CCP stuff, they (literally) print it as the last page of the paper (easily ignored), so as to not be mixed in with the standard news (kind of like their editorials).

    Not sure what your beef with them is, but I found their reporting to actually be more fact reporting rather than perspective based. Yes, they do report more on things that occur in the east, but they report on world events just as well as any other news source.

    I have found their reporting a nice change of pace, and yet another source of news to compare and contrast to others out there.
    @Dogtown is a socialist
     
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    Sounds like an act of war to me.

    Should be taken with a grain of salt, US media is at present, somewhere on the level of the North Korea likely even less factual .Fact free space. Epoch times is Falun Gong sect propaganda outfit ,FG is anti CCP group

    This is very likely all made up shit but remember US been directly involved in funding the HK 'protests' .

    Face the facts this is homegrown shit ,BLM is drowning in cash donated by Americans. Jumping at wishful thinking articles is just childish.
     
    Should be taken with a grain of salt, US media is at present, somewhere on the level of the North Korea likely even less factual .Fact free space. Epoch times is Falun Gong sect propaganda outfit ,FG is anti CCP group

    This is very likely all made up shit but remember US been directly involved in funding the HK 'protests' .

    Face the facts this is homegrown shit ,BLM is drowning in cash donated by Americans. Jumping at wishful thinking articles is just childish.

    I wouldn't be surprised if it's both honestly especially in the early stages. They may have hit "critical mass" and by doing that got US corporations to fund it which is a brilliant case of asymmetric warfare if so.

    The other question in my mind is how many US corps are donating as useful idiots and how many are donating in the hopes that they can be spared from the mob. It's an intriguing question to me.

    Then again when I see a company (or hell a lot of the woke people) do something which is "woke" what I ask my self is "what are they trying to compensate for appearnace wise?" As an example Nike's US wokeism vs the way they treat their workers in Asia or the whole situation with the NBA running Chinese basketball camps that are really forced labor farms.
     
    Should be taken with a grain of salt, US media is at present, somewhere on the level of the North Korea likely even less factual .Fact free space. Epoch times is Falun Gong sect propaganda outfit ,FG is anti CCP group

    This is very likely all made up shit but remember US been directly involved in funding the HK 'protests' .

    Face the facts this is homegrown shit ,BLM is drowning in cash donated by Americans. Jumping at wishful thinking articles is just childish.

    One of the only things I take with a grain of salt is the mouth full of cock bullshit assholes like you spread.
    So maybe you could try tucking the balls in when you mumble your bullshit.
     
    Cool. Now were can stop this idiotic game of shouting "Soros!" every time something bad happens, and focus on an active enemy.

    Can I still curse Soros when his Open Society Foundation dumps millions of dollars into local DA races to promote the election of Communist idealogical candidates in major cities across the US? Or is that the Chinese too?
     
    Can I still curse Soros when his Open Society Foundation dumps millions of dollars into local DA races to promote the election of Communist idealogical candidates in major cities across the US? Or is that the Chinese too?

    Do whatever you feel is appropriate 🤷‍♂️ Seems like you've done your research and applied some critical thinking, which puts you in the 99th percentile of those who invoke the dude's name.
     
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