Maybe ISIS is already here, no problem with logistics, as they may already be on welfare, CA would be a great place for them, nobody has the balls to say, "who the fuck are these guys? Are they illegally in the USA? What are the up to?". They may have been strolling across our border for months, with a plan. ISIS has plenty of funding, small teams may already be spread out across the US is "strategic" locations, to attack things such as our Electric Grid, Highway system, Railroad system, communications towers, gas and oil pipe lines etc.. Our failure to secure our borders, and the puss-a-fied ass holes, in very liberal areas, are too large a vulnerability gap in our system not to be taken advantage of. When you couple this with the American/EU passport holders (citizens) that are able to travel freely in and out of the US-we could be heading for a very bad situation in the very near future. I hope I'm wrong, 1000% wrong, but I believe we are about to be hit by ISIS or some similar group of trash. Once the problems start the native born American Trash, as those we say in Ferguson MO, will quickly get on the burn, rape, robe, train-all hell will break loose.
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Yeah no fucking way. IMHO the politicians are just looking at ISIS as an easy out. The economy is still in the shitter, gas prices are still 300% higher than they were ~10 years ago and we're getting fucked by Obamacare. The ISIS neanderthals give them something to talk about that doesn't involve any skin off their asses.
The first part of your post, up to California, is (really not) funny as hell. The rest of it is frighteningly possible, and something I too have considered for some time. There are vulnerabilities at almost every corner, if you think about it, but I will not post it here as this is an open forum and what better place to refine a trade the 'Snipers Hide'. I removed part of yours and hope you might consider it, though it may, as you suggest, be too late. Good post.
Rioters, looters, rapists, murderers, terrorists etc... are usually all brave and bold till somebody pulls out a rifle and rapidly connects with headshots every time.
There is lots of Righteous old ornery guys and gals that know how to aim and are tired, fed-up, just waiting for a chance to take out the trash.
I am with you 100%, however; we didn't see any of those guys in Ferguson MO. I guess the Ornery guys don't live above the Mason-Dixon line!
In Ferguson, weren't the "protesters" doing their "meeting peacefully and shopping without their wallets" in their own neighborhoods and not in the part of town where people who remind you of Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino live?
Ohh, sorry about that sir Idk how I got you mixed up, heres the member/thread I was referring to:
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting/snipers-hide-photo-threads/206089-snipers-aleppo-syria.html
Personally, I would wager a year`s salary on our citizenry by itself being able to roll these fellas up if they brought it to our back yard. They obviously shouldnt be underestimated though, I doubt theyre stupid enough to all stay together.
Project Appleseed makes more and more sense every day.
PC has done a good job at putting "cro magnon man", "the neanderthal", off to the side, ostracized as a relic from a different time, and only tolerated in small numbers as a necessary evil. Instead they favor the "metrosexual man" and a less coarse, kinder gentler existence. I think those that push Thag into the shadows secretly admire and wish they could be him.
I offer that people are not see easily boxed. Instead there are those that see and those that either dont see or dont want to see. Thag is much smarter than realized. At some point truth can not be denied and the new made believer, while standing in a puddle of his own piss, will beg for those that speak the blunt truth to come to the fore.
We have been lucky in that for that almost 65 years we have not had to totally Cry Havoc!, let slip the dogs of war. The result has still been victories in the field albeit they have been wasted by political loss. We have been lucky to have both our guns and butter this entire time. I cant imagine what would happen should we face a real existential threat. It wont be pretty.
My concern is not so much that "Cro Magnon" man wont show up but that our industry is so degraded that we wont be able to produce the excess materials as we could in the past.......but than I see my S1050 bolted to my reloading bench, someones post about their 80 percent lower or some guy turns a flat shovel into an AK and I know we will be fine.
Just a shame that history seems to indicate we must be wounded before we act. You would have thought changing the New York skyline would have been sufficient pain but I think the powers that be are only upset to the point it was done without zoning approval.
Tommy Atkins is alive and well.....
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.
Age?
I have two words for anyone concerned
1. Samuel
2. Whittemore
Samuel Whittemore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Anyone that has delusions of 300, holding back the waves of IS invaders with their ARs and GAPs are fooling themselves. Will never happen in the USA because they know it wouldn't work. I also don't believe it's the big dramatic attacks we need to be most worried about.
What we all need to worry about are the low key ops that can be highly effective. Imagine a VBIED detonating at the next Cards (football or baseball) game while everyone feeds into the ballpark? How about a BBIED at the next Iowa State Fair? Calls going in to local EOD every time we see a dead deer on the roadside because RCIEDs start ripping off on school buses? Just think bringing Kandahar and Fallujah tactics to Anytown, USA with a population over 250k. The follow-on windfall legislation and enforcement will degrade our freedoms more than any kind of assault ever could. Think Patriot Act x100. Now that scares the fuck out of me.
Won't happen soon, but we all know it can happen. And I'm not even a SHTF-EOTWAWKI-get my tin foil hat type either, just a guy with way too long in country dealing with their handy work. It's all fun and games until you're swerving away from a dead dog on the roadside while taking your kids to school.
What we all need to worry about are the low key ops that can be highly effective. Imagine a VBIED detonating at the next Cards (football or baseball) game while everyone feeds into the ballpark? How about a BBIED at the next Iowa State Fair? Calls going in to local EOD every time we see a dead deer on the roadside because RCIEDs start ripping off on school buses? Just think bringing Kandahar and Fallujah tactics to Anytown, USA with a population over 250k. The follow-on windfall legislation and enforcement will degrade our freedoms more than any kind of assault ever could. Think Patriot Act x100. Now that scares the fuck out of me.
Won't happen soon, but we all know it can happen. And I'm not even a SHTF-EOTWAWKI-get my tin foil hat type either, just a guy with way too long in country dealing with their handy work. It's all fun and games until you're swerving away from a dead dog on the roadside while taking your kids to school.
IF/WHEN there is another attack that is the time for the citizenry to be deputized and made the front line.
DHS has not stopped one attack. People on airplanes have wrestled down their assaulters or equipment has been put in place and malfunctioned. The Boston Bomber was not caught by law enforcement - it was a home owner going out for a smoke.
IF/WHEN there is another attack it weill be proven that the government has failed and the People need to take care of themselves (as it should be).
This is common sense but Redmanss is right something else with negative results will happen.
DHS and the rest of law enforcement have stopped attacks for sure. Prevention is stopping attacks, right? It's not only about interdiction. They're just looking for their next avenue of attack.
There will be no "front line" if this comes to pass.
There will be no "front line" if this comes to pass.
Haha! Piles of trash beside the road back in North Carolina had me looking extra hard for quite a long time. Kind of hope that I never have to start actually worrying about that in this country, but I too feel that it is inevitable. Hope that I am not too old by then that I have forgotten how to fight dirty too.
Cha Ching. The cities will become death camps. My concern is that they will come to try and take us in the country to "a safer place, for your own good, and no is not an option." Thats when shit hits the fan. Check out a Netflix picture called "How I live now".
Have a bit more faith in the average Joe, when he gets "turned on and tuned in" to what is going on there will be hell to pay for all involved. The process will be scary and painful but the ship will be righted and float on a lot of blood.
Someone on this side needs to understand that we should never have created an enemy where none was needed.
We have cockblocked Russia at every turn regards matters that are legitimate national interests for them. Putin is just saying fuck it and looking out for his Oligarchy. Hes straightening out some of the left over shit from WWII and crimes Stalin had committed to keep the lid on his Commie Utopia. Ukraine has been screwed over by Stalin and history more so than Putin.
Fact is both our countries are threatened by the same enemy and we should probably tell the small fishin the sideshows to cut the shit and concentrate.
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I hear ya PM, but still, FK the Russians, they have killed more people in the last 101 years than all the history of our new muslin threat. Yes I am of a generation that was okay with ending the world
Same generation here. I well remember getting under the desk. I dont know whether to laugh of throw up.
What I find interesting is that a lot of movies and other entertainment venues seem to be almost predicting what is going to happen or preparing the culture for what will happen in the future. For the last few decades things have seemed to be this way, but it seems ramped up lately. Movies like the Giver, Divergent, Hunger Games, etc. lots of this utopian, your government knows best crap. It is definitely interesting.
Russians havent killed more people - the disgusting idea of socialist government, that runs counter to all human nature save its most base power hungry concepts, has and continues to kill more people.
Putin is more of a capitalistic oligarch in contrast to the socialist EU. The young people in the former CCCP wont likely go back to a Communist lifestyle no matter how much Vlad would hope. Properly nurtured Russia could develop a middle class that will demand reforming the oligarch system. That place has the potential to do all right with their education and resources.
Im not a Russofile, I just think they are a product of their history. They still carry the baggage of the mongol hordes, Ghengis Khan, Ivan the Terrible, the Streltsy, khaftans, muslim invasion, Tartars, Cossacks, Khulaks, NKVD/KGB, Anti Communists/Nazi sympathizers, the Great Patriotic War, Perestroika and all that shit in their psyche. Horrible yet interesting history. Our take on it is "Why cant they forget all that crap and move on?" as is the response in our American Idol society.
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Dystopian not Utopian.
I agree media can be a reflection of our fears. Consider all the 50's monster movies feature creatures created by nuclear accidents.
I read an excellent history of Russia. The suffering in the last 150 years alone is beyond the ability of most people to imagine.
50 million dead in a fifteen year period. Lets see 50 million divided by 15 equals........
ChiComs are probably the only ones that did them better with the cultural revolution. GDR, Khmers and PRVN added to the Socialist total.
Nazis, Communists, Fascist Muslims all the same.
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I think its near time for some hardship in this country, I just dont see what else would toughen this nation up. See the first part of this video:
Alabama - Song Of The South - YouTube
"Were Americans, and Americans had a lot of hardships, so were gonna fight this through.."
If only the majority of our population were made up of people like that. Most were where I came from, but up here in ATL barely any are and Atlanta`s population dawrfs my hometown`s.
Alabama - Song Of The South - YouTube
"Were Americans, and Americans had a lot of hardships, so were gonna fight this through.."
If only the majority of our population were made up of people like that. Most were where I came from, but up here in ATL barely any are and Atlanta`s population dawrfs my hometown`s.
This is another aspect of the issue. While many of you are worried about them coming across the border, they are already here and they are US citizens
American fails in bid to join ISIL in Syria
American fails in bid to join ISIL in Syria
Fuck him, right?
Anybody known to be travelling to join terrorists should be shot dead on sight as traitors.
This right here. And not only did a homeowner find him, the whole neighborhood would have been better off if the homeowner had took care of the situation himself, since when DHS did show up they ripped over 200 full auto rounds at the 140lb weakling, in the middle of a crowded neighborhood, and still didn't even kill him. Meanwhile, their BPD and DHS bros were pulling Americans out of their homes at gunpoint and searching the homes and the occupants without warrant. One of the oldest and most prestigious cities in America, and ironically the literal birthplace of our idea of freedom, and one crime results in martial law. A complete dismantling of our Constitutional rights in response to one fugitive. Yeah, it happened, and will happen again and again until the American people say no.
When we start getting these kinds of low level attacks on a more regular basis, like the Israelis do, we can respond in two ways. We can encourage the population to pay attention and take care of themselves, like the Israelis do when they arm their public school teachers, OR we can repeat the travesty of a response in Boston in every town in America and hand the terrorists a victory like we did there by turning all of America into a police state "for our safety." Given the militarization of police forces and the exponential growth of SWAT, the constant opposition to citizen self-reliance (a recent DHS memo said citizens trying to be self sufficient is a "suspicious" activity) it is clear which path the authorities are planning. Of course dont forget that the DHS considers returning veterans the greatest domestic threat. The FBI doesn't even include Islam in its domestic threat assessment. What does their perception of the "threat" tell you about their vision for the future of America? Do we have the same vision for our future as they do?
If the DHS and police forces at every level wanted to use all that gear to accomplish something that would actually increase our safety, then they can take it down to the border and close it, for starters. The DHS policy of letting everyone come in and distribute themselves across America before we stop them is criminally negligent in their duty to take appropriate, Constitutional, measures to provide for national security. If they are not even willing to begin to address that glaring, enormous hole in our security plan I am not about to put up with the slightest infringement in my Constitutional rights in the name of security.
Here is the problem, you've already been "putting up" with it, along with millions of other Americans. That's the problem, "what can you realistically do about it?" They know you cannot do a dang thing and are using it to their advantage. if anyone really thinks they are free in the US then they need their heads examined! We have it a hell of a lot better than most but we certainly are not as free as one might think.
Anyone ever notice the asshole that killed those two reporters looks JUST LIKE AN E TYPE! That asshole should've looked in a mirror. I bet he'd look just like a goddamn popup out there in the desert. US soldiers have been training to shoot his ass for decades.
After one or more American cities ride a fireball into the stratosphere we might take the gloves off.
But for now we'll continue to imagine ourselves civilized, too civilized to solve this problem.
The above photo is the best way to deal with it in my book. That single molecule x 10^135 should be enough for a good start, or maybe say around 40 mole or so
Ok, sometimes a shooting star has a parallel, I know a rancher guy who talked about a problem with wolves and then his grand daughter in Utah had a puppy with parvo. Well grandpa took care of the grand daughters puppy and the wolf problem at the same time. Grandpa's are phuckin smart-
You do realize the Atl folks are yankee transplants or the seed of carpetbaggers, right?
Believe me I know, I deal with the sons of b!tches everyday. Yeah theyre Americans, sure, but these damn sure aint "my" people. I am an American too, and yes as a group I would fight and die for these folks but damn, these folks up here seem so damn foreign in everything they do it dont make no sense. Considered on an individual basis, most of their parents failed them. Noone says maam/sir(and my managers at work specifically give me instructions NOT to call them maam or sir - goes against the vocabulary ingrained in me as a child), please/thank you, and nearly all expect you to get out of their way all the while with a frown on their face. So I dont usually say excuse me anymore, and if the mofo doesnt put in the effort to avoid running straight into me, I dont either. I cant tell you how many times through the day I stiffen up my shoulder and run dead into the person. Then they look at me like they expected me to move. Sorry, no sir, that shit aint happening. If you aint putting in any effort to avoid running right into me, I wont either. A shame that I let them change my ways, but I got tired of completely moving out of the way and saying excuse me for people that plan to hit me with their shoulder if`n I dont move. That shit pisses me off, so yeah Ill stiffen up and let em get what they give. Atlanta shouldnt be considered Georgia anymore; the population is so large that Im surprised it hasnt outweighed the votes of the rest of the state. Go 50 miles north of Atlanta, or 30 miles south of Atlanta, and theres like a paradigm shift in peoples` attitudes. Head 198mi South-Southeast, to my home, and the population dwindles to the point where its hard to consider the town a group anymore, but instead a small bunch of individuals.
If I was a pontificating man Id wonder if every single one of em aint transplants from NY. I was telling one kid I work with about the wolf deal up north where the hippies thought it a good idea to transplant foreign Canadian wolves into the northern US. His reply was "Really? Sweet!!" I tried correcting him in his thinking like "dude, you dont want these type of hippies, and you damn sure dont want the wolves" but alas, all hope for him was lost long ago. He actually refers to himself as a hipster, which is a much gayer form of a hippy? I guess?
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