Specs on Custom die?

[besheff.308]

Hi again everybody!

Thank you all for helping/responding to my last post, I have another one thats more of a question/poll.

As of now I will call redding asking them to make a custom die that gives .0015 neck tension. I was wondering if anyone else out there with custome dies would tell me what you have it set to?

Also, if you had them alter the case any other way post that too if you do not mind (IE bump shoulder or w/e).

Connor

 

[ChrisGarrett]

Re: Specs on Custom die?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: connor55</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi again everybody!

Thank you all for helping/responding to my last post, I have another one thats more of a question/poll.

As of now I will call redding asking them to make a custom die that gives .0015 neck tension. I was wondering if anyone else out there with custome dies would tell me what you have it set to?

Also, if you had them alter the case any other way post that too if you do not mind (IE bump shoulder or w/e).

Connor </div></div>

Why not get the Redding Competition Neck or FL S bushing die sets and a few bushings?

With different bushings, you can shoot different brands of brass and still control your neck tension.

Unless you're turning your necks and/or reaming the inside of those necks, you're not going to be precisely at .0015" of neck tension anyway, due to neck wall thickness variations, so you're kind of spinning your wheels having a custom die made to that value.

Chris

 

[Enios]

Re: Specs on Custom die?

I use Redding body dies that have been custom honed to my rifle. I had them honed to set the shoulders back .001 in .001 and .002 at the web. I have no feeding problems that way and each round is as close to identical as brass will get. I then use a Redding competition neck sizer to size the necks. I have a 308, 243 and did have a 708 so I bought the 308 neck sizer and bushing for each caliber and it all works great together. Unless you are going to turn all the necks you will have a hard time keeping all brass the same neck tension. I think bushing is the way to go because you can find brass as thin as .012 and as thick as .017 in 308 itself. I use to just neck size and FL when needed but have found by FL and neck sizing my accuracy has got much better and I think it’s because the round are more consistent. Also the comp neck sizer doesn’t use expanders and my runout is much better. I do turn most of my necks and have seen accuracy improve just as soon as I started doing that, but you have to have the bushing dies to keep the tension the same if you do. I don’t know what Redding charges to cut a custom die but the guy I use can hone one for your particular rifle for about 40 bucks.

 

[besheff.308]

Re: Specs on Custom die?

Thank you both for responding.

To solve some variables this is what I have so far. I am going to use NOTHING but Lapua 308 Brass under any circumstances (Unless the company starts slacking that is).

I currently do not turn my brass but once I get the die and brass I will buy a good quality neck turner and reamer and uniform the brass.

This brings me to another quicky, any recomendations on what to use?

 

[besheff.308]

Re: Specs on Custom die?

Also, on another note, a redding FL custom die will cost 100$ give or take. To buy a high quality neck sizer only is around 60ish, plus a bushing or two is 10-20 bucks. So in the end I am not really saving a considerable amount.

 

[Enios]

Re: Specs on Custom die?

I've never reamed my brass but own a Forster turner and a Sinclair and have the power adapter case holder. While the Forster does a good job I prefer the Sinclair at 3 times the price for ease of adjustment and size. I've had several major surgeries to both my hands and find it much easier to hold and the set up works much better. There are several threads here on the subject if I remember right and while I've never tried a pumpkin I would like to but think from it's shape it would still tire my hands. I use their carbide mandrels and have their expander, also. Here's a link to my favorite.....
http://www.sinclairintl.com/product/9091/Neck-Turning-Tools

 

[besheff.308]

Re: Specs on Custom die?

I am very sorry to say that 150 is slightly high for me, I will consider it but I will shop around abit more.

 

[Enios]

Re: Specs on Custom die?

If one brass is all you will use go cheap and set it up once. You can get the Forster for about 60 bucks. The carbide mandrels for the Sinclair are 50 bucks but standard are about 12. You should use an expander if you are going to neck size and it's going to be about that much more. If you don't care to spend 150 for the dies you should get the tools to make them work. I could tell you it's not worth the effort but I've seen improvement with everything I've done in my case prep. Turning the necks on Winchester brass closed my groups up over 1/4" but their necks are as bad as any brass I've seen. Do a search on neck turning here and there are cheaper units out there people like. I think K&M, Hart and a couple of more are mentioned. On one of them I have targets where I had identical brass, weights of brass, and all the prep was exactly the same but I turned the necks on one set and didn't the other and it was amazing at the difference in the groups.

Down the page here,,,, http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1554644