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#1
I need more guns like I need a huge hole in my head, but i've shot a few 1911s now and I really like the platform. The svelte single stack 1911 handles really well for me. I'd have to do a little penny pinching to splurge on a nice 1911, but I dont want a mediocre 1911.

The Wilson CQB Elite is a badass gun, id really like to get one in that class, but i dont have 3500 dollars right now. The TRP from what I've read, seems to be damn near as good for 1/3 the price.

Heres what i want:
-Reliability (a given)
-Great fit and finish. (at least 1500 bucks worth)
-Minimal/no MIM
-Accuracy (once again, at least my moneys worth)
-A respectable gun that will still be respectable in 25 years
-A tough gun that will stand up to abuse and age gracefully.
-A good gun for target practice at the range
-A good gun to ride on my hip if the LE career happens

Im thinking black slide and frame with a set of nice VZ G10 panels and wilson magazines. Im undecided. I may save for longer and get the Wilson CQB Elite if its worth the cost difference. Id be able to spec out everything i want on the build that way.

Sorry for the rambling, what are your thoughts?
 
#2
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Im really leaning toward the Wilson CQB Elite. Is it gonna stand up to abuse? or should i just acquire a taste for the Glock?
 
#4
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The Springfield TRP is a very good production 1911. I have one and it has been very good. The Wilson is a great pistol but that is a lot of money. I picked up a used CQB last year for 1600 and you can find good, basically new CQB's on the used market for <2000. You should also look at the STI Spartan for a semi-custom gun that won't break the bank.
 
#5
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If you don't want MIM, don't buy any factory-produced 1911.

If I wanted to spend that kind of coin, and not build a custom gun, I would probably go with the TRP myself.

If I was going to be an LEO, the TRP Operator would be a consideration.
 
#6
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I have a TRP operator.. and it's been the shit. I got it for $1100 lightly used. Honestly, the gun outshoots me. Unless I got into really serious competition, I don't think that I would know the difference between it and a really high end model. It's my daily carry and local IDPA match gun. Excellent for the price, IMO!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VAJayJayPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">read the les bear thread, lots of feedback on custom to semi-custom to awsome stock 1911's </div></div>

Dude i tried, but i had to wade through 200 posts of arguing to find any good info. The info i did find corroborates what others have said. To someone without many years experience with 1911's, the differences between the custom gun and the factory TRP wont be obvious anyway. I thin im gonna go with the TRP and get the CQB later if i still need more than the TRP. Something tells me ill be satisfied.
 
#10
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The springfield trp operator is the only pistol I own that I would never sell or trade. I've had mine for 7 years ... Thousands of rounds.. Finish is still like new and it shoots like a dream, I have never had a single malfunction with it.
 
#11
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The TRP is a great gun, but it really depends on the price you can get one for. When they were selling new for $1100-1200 they were hands down the best thing going in a 1911. Now it seems local places have them priced in the $1500-1700 range which IMO is overpriced. For that price if you want to watch the for sale boards you can usually find a gently used wilson CQB, brown, etc. come up under $2000 and I'd rather run one of those than the TRP for just a couple hundred more.

Forget about worrying about MIM, it's SUCH an over rated concern. For many years even the wilson's etc. came with some MIM parts and it was never an issue, sooner or later if you put enough rounds though any 1911 some parts will fail, IMO don't worry about MIM if a part breaks, replace it with non MIM if you want.

That said, and I love the 1911's but it's pretty hard to beat a glock for abuse and reliability. I shoot a 1911 better, but if I need a gun I can throw in a truck, beat on it, and still know it's going to run all the time any time it's the glock.

Also be aware that many departments if you go the LE route, probably won't let you carry a 1911, some are more flexible than others, but don't count on it.
 
#14
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The TRP prices now are 1500+ for the the non rail version. Unless you are getting a used one for 1100 or less I would save and get a better gun. I have two TRP operators full and half rail and they are awesome. I also have a Kimber Gold Combat and an Ed Brown SF. They are even better. you can get an Ed Brown Kobra, SF for around 1800 used or 2100 new. I would definitely go there before I spent the money on a Wilson. I had a CQB for some time and it was nice but not 1000$ nicer than my Ed Browns
 
#19
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a TRP operator.. and it's been the shit. I got it for $1100 lightly used. Honestly, the gun outshoots me. Unless I got into really serious competition, I don't think that I would know the difference between it and a really high end model. It's my daily carry and local IDPA match gun. Excellent for the price, IMO! </div></div>

A TRP Operator is not IDPA legal in any division. In fact, it's not even legal for USPSA Single Stack.

Full size, bull barrel 1911s are banned in both IDPA (totally) and USPSA Single Stack.
 
#20
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a TRP operator.. and it's been the shit. I got it for $1100 lightly used. Honestly, the gun outshoots me. Unless I got into really serious competition, I don't think that I would know the difference between it and a really high end model. It's my daily carry and local IDPA match gun. Excellent for the price, IMO! </div></div>

A TRP Operator is not IDPA legal in any division. In fact, it's not even legal for USPSA Single Stack.

Full size, bull barrel 1911s are banned in both IDPA (totally) and USPSA Single Stack. </div></div> Which is why it's a good gun for informal and local match shooting. If you were going to get into shooting with people that are interested in competing for the sake of competition, then get something designed for such. It's an excellent gun for the purposes that the OP listed...
 
#21
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which is why it's a good gun for informal and local match shooting. If you were going to get into shooting with people that are interested in competing for the sake of competition, then get something designed for such. It's an excellent gun for the purposes that the OP listed... </div></div>

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#22
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Mine was awesome, VERY accurate, but tight. Slide was smooth as silk but again, tight. It was so pretty I never let it get dirty, so I dont know how reliable it would be as a duty gun, but the casual use i put it through it was fine.

I'd like to have another, but wouldnt use it as a duty gun but more of a fun range toy. Not saying it couldnt be suitable for that, but that I like other weapons better for that purpose for a variety of reasons.

They are great lookin guns too.
 
#23
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a TRP operator.. and it's been the shit. I got it for $1100 lightly used. Honestly, the gun outshoots me. Unless I got into really serious competition, I don't think that I would know the difference between it and a really high end model. It's my daily carry and local IDPA match gun. Excellent for the price, IMO! </div></div>

A TRP Operator is not IDPA legal in any division. In fact, it's not even legal for USPSA Single Stack.

Full size, bull barrel 1911s are banned in both IDPA (totally) and USPSA Single Stack. </div></div> Which is why it's a good gun for informal and local match shooting. If you were going to get into shooting with people that are interested in competing for the sake of competition, then get something designed for such. It's an excellent gun for the purposes that the OP listed... </div></div>

Non IDPA legal equipment is not allowed at any match that advertises itself as an IDPA match.

The rules are actually rules, they're not suggestions and they ain't that hard.
 
#24
Re: Springfield TRP the perfect gun for me?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a TRP operator.. and it's been the shit. I got it for $1100 lightly used. Honestly, the gun outshoots me. Unless I got into really serious competition, I don't think that I would know the difference between it and a really high end model. It's my daily carry and local IDPA match gun. Excellent for the price, IMO! </div></div>

A TRP Operator is not IDPA legal in any division. In fact, it's not even legal for USPSA Single Stack.

Full size, bull barrel 1911s are banned in both IDPA (totally) and USPSA Single Stack. </div></div> Which is why it's a good gun for informal and local match shooting. If you were going to get into shooting with people that are interested in competing for the sake of competition, then get something designed for such. It's an excellent gun for the purposes that the OP listed... </div></div>

Non IDPA legal equipment is not allowed at any match that advertises itself as an IDPA match.

The rules are actually rules, they're not suggestions and they ain't that hard. </div></div>

OK fucker, I know that it isn't technically allowed by IDPA rules. Also, note that I said that I'm not a serious competitor at all, and if I was, I wouldn't recommend the TRP. For the uses that the OP outlined, it's a fine pistol.

Don't get butthurt at me because I mentioned that I shot it at several different local matches. I asked for permission, and nobody cared. How much advantage do you think the bull barrel gave me anyway? Most people at the events that I attend are just happy to have some friendly competition and get new people into the shooting sports. If that's not the environment that you foster at your local matches, then feel free to be a rule nazi there. Or try to impress all of us fellow 'hiders with your intimate knowledge of the IDPA rulebook.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
OK fucker, I know that it isn't technically allowed by IDPA rules. Also, note that I said that I'm not a serious competitor at all, and if I was, I wouldn't recommend the TRP. For the uses that the OP outlined, it's a fine pistol.

Don't get butthurt at me because I mentioned that I shot it at several different local matches. I asked for permission, and nobody cared. How much advantage do you think the bull barrel gave me anyway? Most people at the events that I attend are just happy to have some friendly competition and get new people into the shooting sports. If that's not the environment that you foster at your local matches, then feel free to be a rule nazi there. Or try to impress all of us fellow 'hiders with your intimate knowledge of the IDPA rulebook. </div></div>

1. Nothing wrong with the <span style="font-style: italic">TRP</span>; it has a standard bushing barrel. I thought we were talking about the <span style="font-style: italic">TRP Operator</span>. Maybe you've regurgitated so much bullshit that you can't tell fact from fiction anymore.

2. It's not about advantage, because I'm pretty sure if you're too stupid to read the rulebook, you're probably not much of a shooter, either. And for the record, I have never been an IDPA member, I have only shot a small handful of IDPA matches, and I'm not _that_ familiar with the IDPA rulebook at all, and I still knew that a bull barrel gun was banned.

And as to my "local" matches, they are run under a rulebook (they're not suggestions). If they're not, we have a process for correcting that.
 
#30
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The only hiccup in your laundry list is the duty-gun for LE. *SOME* agencies allow it, but not many at all!

I've owned a number of S.A. 1911's, and my Loaded Operator(alum frame) and my TRP(steel frame) were my favorites by far. The TRP was a solid platform. It had a pretty decent finish for a production gun, and fitting of parts.

Then you just change out parts to your need a few here, one there, a couple here, and then it's "custom" right?
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Get it, don't look back, have fun!! Save up for a Glock for duty-gun!

Best of luck!!

-G45
 
#31
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The TRP is a great gun and I've long touted it as the best value in a 1911 out there right now BUT I've recently taken a liking to the Dan Wesson pistols, having bought two in the last two weeks. If you shop around, you can get a stainless 5" Valor for $1300-1400. These are at least as good as most of the full custom guns that I own or have owned (and I'm talking full custom, not standard guns from Baer or Wilson or the like) and better than some. I would urge you to check out the line and do some research. So far, the two that I have are very impressive with no issues of any sort. Detail stripping shows good machining. The 5" Valors are built as I would have a custom gun built in regard to parts selection and configuration (other than being stainless).
 
#32
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 6.5mmman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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lets stay on topic here guys. Downzero probably isnt the guy to argue with </div></div>
yea, i found that out the hard way!
 
#33
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sergeant69</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 6.5mmman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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lets stay on topic here guys. Downzero probably isnt the guy to argue with </div></div>
yea, i found that out the hard way! </div></div>Never argue with an idiot, he will only drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.. I should have heeded my own advice..
 
#34
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I bought a TRP about 3 years ago and have been carring it ever since. You will not be disappoint with it. Mine has run flawlessly on store bought ammo. I had a few problems with my reloads but this was due to reloading and not the gun. The case mouth wasn't closed all the way (dies out of adjustment). Other than that the only other thing I've ran across is with some Kimber 10 round mags I bought they seem to have the inside of the mag to tight and the rounds bind up in them. I've run the stock mags, Wilsons 47d & chip McCormic 10 rounders without issue. The finish on my gun after three years of carry is ok in my mind. You can see where its worn off on the sharp corners of the slide at the barrel end and on the safty and bobtail. If this is a concern to you you may want to look at a stainless model.
 
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