Staccato Surprise

[ut755ln]

This is conjecture, this is not absolute. I think Staccato is going to move away from the 2011 market that they effectively created. They are going to stick with variants of the Staccato HD but the big move is to a striker fired polymer framed pistol that will be targeted at the military and law enforcement. I think that they are going to exit the traditional 2011 market.

 

[Krob95]

 

[Bakwa]

What makes you conject such a hypothesis?

 

[diggler1833]

I was just thinking that what our current firearms market is lacking, is options in the striker-fired, polymer-framed segment.

 

[Bakwa]

I was just thinking that what our current firearms market is lacking, is options in the striker-fired, polymer-framed segment.

Someone needs to make one that has such a good trigger that it goes off when you set it down or holster it. Screw the Fudd ranges that will think they're unsafe. They just don't practice enough Jedi mind control to keep this theoretical pistol at bay.

 

[wvfarrier]

 

[Ape_Factory]

You're 182 days early with this post.

 

[cas6969]

Well they stopped selling race guns and changed their name because those people were shooting them too much.

They've since become the darling of the Tactical Timmie crowd.

But I think he may be on to something. By changing their target market to Law Enforcement, people who shoot their guns even less, that would lessen accuracy expectations and reduce repair returns under warrantee even more so!

 

[CaptArab]

They've since become the darling of the Tactical Timmie crowd.

I don't disagree with you and honestly kinda hate the image but this is the best darned carry gun I've ever touched.

I love the C24/CS grip it feels like a 1911 in size not like the massive 2011 brick. About Glock 45 sized which is easy enough for me aiwb.

Zero interest in the Glock based stacattos though.

I wish I could buy an Atlas/Nighthawk/GunCrafter/etc built around this mag.

 

[cas6969]

I'm saddened by the fact that the gun on the right is more accurate than the gun on the left.

 

[CaptArab]

I'm saddened by the fact that the gun on the right is more accurate than the gun on the left.

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You should rejoice, it's a hell of a lot cheaper.
My C24 is the easiest to shoot practical carry pistol I've ever shot. Haven't tried that one though. Just glocks (modded and stock) and sigs.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

Overpriced shitty 2011s with retarded magazines.

Buy a MAC or prodigy for less than half the price. It will shoot better and be more reliable.

Every statement OP made was wrong, From them creating the 2011 to the insane idea they would give it up compete in the most oversaturated market in firearms..... Dude Get help.

 

[MarshallDodge]

Staccato comes from the old STI brand, that made 2011s and components. The originators of the 2011 were Virgil Tripp, Chip McCormick, and engineer Sandy Strayer.

The Staccato is an improved version of the mediocre 2011 that STI put out. With the money they are getting for a Staccato, why stop?

 

[flogxal]

Well, we are in the era of insane changes in direction, all across the business and govt spectrums. I can sorta see where this comes from. Companies used to focus on core competence and niche excellence, but these days everyone wants to be Baskin-Robbins in their portfolio. From that POV, Staccato abandoning what made it Staccato would make sense. Especially if they hired Ron Cohen to run the shop.

 

[carbonbased]

I'm saddened by the fact that the gun on the right is more accurate than the gun on the left.

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Oooofffff that sux

 

[mkollman74]

This is conjecture, this is not absolute. I think Staccato is going to move away from the 2011 market that they effectively created. They are going to stick with variants of the Staccato HD but the big move is to a striker fired polymer framed pistol that will be targeted at the military and law enforcement. I think that they are going to exit the traditional 2011 market.

Thank you for wasting my time...

 

[cas6969]

Oooofffff that sux

Truth is the the Not-an-STI shoots well enough for what its job is. But I expected quite a bit more.
The Croatian tupperware does it more good-er-er at 1/4 the price.

 

[akmike47]

My buddy likes his Bul better than his Stacatto and I also wish I could post memes in this section

 

[JoshPutman]

I've been a 1911 guy for years, and decided to get my feet wet in the 2011 world.

Decided to go with a Turkatto. Very happy so far.

 

[NateVA]

 

[M4guru]

The three days I spent with their execs and ownership looking at their new and in-development products a couple weeks ago has determined that's a lie. Expand some lines? Sure, of course they are. Abandon the 2011 entirely? If I bought you at McDonald's you'd be a McRetard.

 

[vanrichten]

I have a dozen Glocks and non-flock Glocks (zev), a couple of 1911s, Beretta M9. Decided to ease a toe into the 2011 world and got a Prodigy DS. Does well, more accurate than any of my Glocks, other than the Zev, I love it for what it is.

Shot a buddies Staccato P. Now I own one too. The Prodigy is like the first hit of crack for free. The full sized P series is utterly amazing. 50 yards clearing plate racks without issue. Can use the Prodigy mags in it too. I have 3500 rounds through it so far without a single hiccup. Used it in 2 classes, including a TNVC night class that rained all damn night.

Even shoot it suppressed without problem.

Sample size of one and all that. But I love mine.

 

[91Eunozs]

My Staccato C ( bought back when they were STI) is a great CC pistol, and shoots like a dream; smooth as silk too.

…and yes, I still tend to push my shot left when doing speed drills. LoL

 

[GenericBadGuy]

So they may actually release a new model this month. Not sure how that squares with your prediction.

 

[M4guru]

Something new in the next couple days, and it's pretty neat.

 

[ut755ln]

What makes you conject such a hypothesis?

The 2011 is not drop safe so it is not eligible for a lot of LEO and mil contracts. You can now buy multiple iterations of the Staccato XC from companies in Turkey, Korea, etc.. that are less than $1,500. The cost to make a 2011 is significantly higher due to the man hours required even versus the cost of the HD.

So, if your goal as a company is to vigorously pursue LEO and military contracts. They currently have two drops safe versions of the HD and they are coming out with more ( a concealed carry version for sure). They have figured out how to design a frame/grip that will reliably feed Glock magazines. If you tour their facility, you can see the new equipment needed to produce striker fired pistols.

Lets see what happens at Shot Show the next two years. It took them almost three years from idea (Staccato HD) to final production.

 

[ut755ln]

The three days I spent with their execs and ownership looking at their new and in-development products a couple weeks ago has determined that's a lie. Expand some lines? Sure, of course they are. Abandon the 2011 entirely? If I bought you at McDonald's you'd be a McRetard.

"This is conjecture, this is not absolute. I think Staccato is going to move away from the 2011 market that they effectively created. They are going to stick with variants of the Staccato HD but the big move is to a striker fired polymer framed pistol that will be targeted at the military and law enforcement. I think that they are going to exit the traditional 2011 market."

I like their products, over time I have owned one of every single firearm that they made. I currently only own a Staccato P. Up until last week we had every single pistol they produce in our rental fleet. Most of our employees have a Staccato from their dealer incentive programs. I have been to both of their facilities (new and old). Most recently at the new facility (August 2025) and I have been doing business with them as a dealer for over five years. I am not criticizing the pistols, their reliability, their viability, anything like that.

 

[91Eunozs]

This is conjecture, this is not absolute. I think Staccato is going to move away from the 2011 market that they effectively created. They are going to stick with variants of the Staccato HD but the big move is to a striker fired polymer framed pistol that will be targeted at the military and law enforcement. I think that they are going to exit the traditional 2011 market.

The only way I see this happening is if they have some inside info re: big Green (and the rest will follow) re-competing the sidearm contract based on the P320’s woes.

I can see a strong desire to “buy American” under current conditions and in the current political environment. Like a real, 100% made in America and 100% made by a US owned company…. So a Glock(ish) weapon, but 100% US owned and made. Not Colt (CZ owned…great guns btw), maybe S&W, but their striker fired pistols are way behind Glock and Sig’s offerings.

Hell, maybe PSA can get in on the action too; those poverty Glocks are turning out to be pretty damn good pistols.

 

[ut755ln]

And another new Staccato HD released, the 3.6 carry.

 

[flogxal]

The only way I see this happening is if they have some inside info re: big Green (and the rest will follow) re-competing the sidearm contract based on the P320’s woes.

I'm a fan of this POV. But it means outpacing Glock's established inroads.

In an era when I see my town buying BMW motorcycles for its 2 wheeled LEOs and splurging on SUV cars for 4 wheel LEOs, I can imagine a similar big spender mindset going Staccato over Glock.

Hell, in this era, I could foresee connections between how SIG USA has run its show recently, and "intentional failure" being a prompt for that sidearm contract opening.

 

[Conqueror]

You can now buy multiple iterations of the Staccato XC from companies in Turkey, Korea, etc.. that are less than $1,500. The cost to make a 2011 is significantly higher due to the man hours required even versus the cost of the HD.

You can also buy Turkish Benelli M4s for $600, but only an inbred moron would imply they are equals to the real thing.

Staccato is making money hand over fist selling 2011s. They are basically responsible for the renaissance of the platform. They aren’t stupid enough to abandon it. If you want something different from them, they also now make the Glock mag guns which are also garnering positive reviews.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

They are more like $350.

Stucco are massively overpriced IMO. They are $1500 guns mascarading as some premium 2011. Having seen and shit afew of the MAC 2011s both stock and modified they are one hell of a gun for the money. I would buy one before ever ordering a stucatto and that's with the discount I get from them.

 

[M4guru]

"This is conjecture, this is not absolute. I think Staccato is going to move away from the 2011 market that they effectively created. They are going to stick with variants of the Staccato HD but the big move is to a striker fired polymer framed pistol that will be targeted at the military and law enforcement. I think that they are going to exit the traditional 2011 market."

I like their products, over time I have owned one of every single firearm that they made. I currently only own a Staccato P. Up until last week we had every single pistol they produce in our rental fleet. Most of our employees have a Staccato from their dealer incentive programs. I have been to both of their facilities (new and old). Most recently at the new facility (August 2025) and I have been doing business with them as a dealer for over five years. I am not criticizing the pistols, their reliability, their viability, anything like that.

I wasn't actually calling you a retard for the record, just more of a general statement. Sorry if it came across that way.

The 3.6" is one of the new HDs, and there are more on the way. The 2011 isn't falling off the roadmap and there are more in the pipeline. I don't work for Staccato for the record, I just work with them on some things.

While we're here, I generally hate small guns. The 3.6" shoots very soft & flat and is extremely accurate. Not usually something I'd be interested in but they did a really good job on it.