Rifle Scopes Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
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Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
The Steiner scopes are very nice. The seem to be a cross between Burris Tactical and Premier. I would like one myself.
Here is a link to the Steiner's on CS Tactical.
http://www.cstactical.com/Steiner.html
Mike @ CST
The Steiner scopes are very nice. The seem to be a cross between Burris Tactical and Premier. I would like one myself.
Here is a link to the Steiner's on CS Tactical.
http://www.cstactical.com/Steiner.html
Mike @ CST
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
I'm a satisfied owner of one Burris Xtreme scope -but after trying Steiner 5-25 I would not count them in same league..not even close. Or perhaps you ment just external look?
Really, nothing against Burris. But still.
I'm a satisfied owner of one Burris Xtreme scope -but after trying Steiner 5-25 I would not count them in same league..not even close. Or perhaps you ment just external look?
Really, nothing against Burris. But still.
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm a satisfied owner of one Burris Xtreme scope -but after trying Steiner 5-25 I would not count them in same league..not even close. Or perhaps you ment just external look?
Really, nothing against Burris. But still. </div></div>
Um, you better hope so, because the Steiners are being assembled at the Burris factory in Colorado. As a recovering Burris owner, that's my biggest knock against them.
The guy at SHOT did say however that the 5-25x military will be imported from Germany. I'm just not sure if that's all 5-25x versions, or just some variants.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm a satisfied owner of one Burris Xtreme scope -but after trying Steiner 5-25 I would not count them in same league..not even close. Or perhaps you ment just external look?
Really, nothing against Burris. But still. </div></div>
Um, you better hope so, because the Steiners are being assembled at the Burris factory in Colorado. As a recovering Burris owner, that's my biggest knock against them.
The guy at SHOT did say however that the 5-25x military will be imported from Germany. I'm just not sure if that's all 5-25x versions, or just some variants.
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
We received a 5-25, mil dot gen 2, cw, zs in last week. Nice to see another German company in the mix. I think that they give a nice alternative to the s&b and the premier. Hopefully we'll get the ccw versions that we ordered pretty soon so I can snag one for myself
This might be a little off topic but i'm really excited to see the new kahles also.
We received a 5-25, mil dot gen 2, cw, zs in last week. Nice to see another German company in the mix. I think that they give a nice alternative to the s&b and the premier. Hopefully we'll get the ccw versions that we ordered pretty soon so I can snag one for myself
This might be a little off topic but i'm really excited to see the new kahles also.
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: glock24</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm a satisfied owner of one Burris Xtreme scope -but after trying Steiner 5-25 I would not count them in same league..not even close.
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Um, you better hope so, because the Steiners are being assembled at the Burris factory in Colorado. </div></div>
I'd better hope so huh?? Sorry, damn not given.
5-25 is made in Germany.
With my current burris, I have no problems with workmanship or assembly related things, its more about design of certain silly things. But its cheap scope, not fair to compare it against double/triple priced scopes such as new Steiner.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: glock24</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm a satisfied owner of one Burris Xtreme scope -but after trying Steiner 5-25 I would not count them in same league..not even close.
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Um, you better hope so, because the Steiners are being assembled at the Burris factory in Colorado. </div></div>
I'd better hope so huh?? Sorry, damn not given.
5-25 is made in Germany.
With my current burris, I have no problems with workmanship or assembly related things, its more about design of certain silly things. But its cheap scope, not fair to compare it against double/triple priced scopes such as new Steiner.
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
Any new info on this one? Anybody have the 5-25 yet? Any thru the scope pics of the reticles?
Any new info on this one? Anybody have the 5-25 yet? Any thru the scope pics of the reticles?
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
got some on my phone i'll try to post later this afternoon.
(edit) I only had one taken at 25x. What pictures would you like to see of the reticle? I'll try to shoot what you request.
25x
got some on my phone i'll try to post later this afternoon.
(edit) I only had one taken at 25x. What pictures would you like to see of the reticle? I'll try to shoot what you request.
25x
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
Steiner will shortly offer this scope with the MSR ret too.
Could be a SuB beater if the price is right????
Steiner will shortly offer this scope with the MSR ret too.
Could be a SuB beater if the price is right????
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
I did get the manual in pdf form for the 5-25 if anyone is interested. Shoot me a message with your e-mail address and I'll get it out to you. We received a 5-25 with the GEN 2 mildot. Nice to see options becoming available in the german market. With the addition of the Kahles and the new Henny next year even more options.
I did get the manual in pdf form for the 5-25 if anyone is interested. Shoot me a message with your e-mail address and I'll get it out to you. We received a 5-25 with the GEN 2 mildot. Nice to see options becoming available in the german market. With the addition of the Kahles and the new Henny next year even more options.
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
Sirs,
Steiner Military Scope 5-25x56 MSR (Multipurpose Sniper Reticle) landed on my desk a few days ago.
Yesterday had time to do an head to head evaluation against S&B 5-25x56 with MSR.
Gents. We have a challenger here for S&B.
- Steiner resolution slightly better than S&B!!!
- Steiner a bit more sensitive about eye position at 15-25x
- Steiner FOV edge clarity better than on S&B
- Steiner had slightly smaller FOV at 12-25x.
- Steiner did not "tunnel" below 7.5x like S&B and had larger FOV at 5x!
Mechanically looks well made and finished. Adjustments track (collimator testing only so far) perfectly. Adjustment feel nice and precise.
Next I'm gonna slam the scope with .338LM for a while and see how the scope is doing after 6 months. If it performs well, we have a true challenger for S&B PMII 5-25x56.
Sirs,
Steiner Military Scope 5-25x56 MSR (Multipurpose Sniper Reticle) landed on my desk a few days ago.
Yesterday had time to do an head to head evaluation against S&B 5-25x56 with MSR.
Gents. We have a challenger here for S&B.
- Steiner resolution slightly better than S&B!!!
- Steiner a bit more sensitive about eye position at 15-25x
- Steiner FOV edge clarity better than on S&B
- Steiner had slightly smaller FOV at 12-25x.
- Steiner did not "tunnel" below 7.5x like S&B and had larger FOV at 5x!
Mechanically looks well made and finished. Adjustments track (collimator testing only so far) perfectly. Adjustment feel nice and precise.
Next I'm gonna slam the scope with .338LM for a while and see how the scope is doing after 6 months. If it performs well, we have a true challenger for S&B PMII 5-25x56.
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
Pics there:
http://www.finnaccuracy.com/steiner_military_MSR_special_reticle.htm
Price about 500euros less than S&B 5-25 here. And price apparently includes BC flip-ups and sunshade.
Pics there:
http://www.finnaccuracy.com/steiner_military_MSR_special_reticle.htm
Price about 500euros less than S&B 5-25 here. And price apparently includes BC flip-ups and sunshade.
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
Hi,
What do you think about the distance of the clicks of the 5-25x56 ? Are they too close together?
How do the clicks compare to a current premier 5-25x56?
Do you know pros and cons of the MSR reticle?
Are there any issues with the scopes so far?
thank you,
kind regards, solst_ice
Hi,
What do you think about the distance of the clicks of the 5-25x56 ? Are they too close together?
How do the clicks compare to a current premier 5-25x56?
Do you know pros and cons of the MSR reticle?
Are there any issues with the scopes so far?
thank you,
kind regards, solst_ice
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
Yeah they are in stock and ready to ship.
Steiner Rifle Scopes
Yeah they are in stock and ready to ship.
Steiner Rifle Scopes
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
Id like to know the size of this scope. The 4-16 was as big as the premier 5-25. Hopefully its not much bigger.
Id like to know the size of this scope. The 4-16 was as big as the premier 5-25. Hopefully its not much bigger.
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
I'll have one up after the weekend. Just got back from visiting with the guys at Steiner last week. I've been shooting it for a couple of weeks. Way impressed with the product as it is now oppose to the prototype we were sent.
I'll have one up after the weekend. Just got back from visiting with the guys at Steiner last week. I've been shooting it for a couple of weeks. Way impressed with the product as it is now oppose to the prototype we were sent.
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Defuzer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">anyone have a review yet on these?
very interested.
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I think everyone is wondering how it compares to the S&B...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Defuzer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">anyone have a review yet on these?
very interested.
</div></div>
I think everyone is wondering how it compares to the S&B...
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
Steiner / S&B side-by-side photo here:
http://www.finnaccuracy.com/steiner_military_MSR_special_reticle.htm
Compared to 5-25 bender:
-Bit tighter eyebox @ magnification +15x
-Image center area resolution tad better in Steiner (only one sample scopes!)
-FOV approximately 2mils smaller in Steiner @ 25x
-FOV larger at 5x, no tunnel effect at all like in S&B
-Clicks tad sharper in S&B, Steiner still beeing very good
-Overall image quality really close to same
-Steiner elevation turret system very good in practice- brainfarts virtually impossible
Even if they would be same price, wouldnt know which one to pick. Hmm
Steiner / S&B side-by-side photo here:
http://www.finnaccuracy.com/steiner_military_MSR_special_reticle.htm
Compared to 5-25 bender:
-Bit tighter eyebox @ magnification +15x
-Image center area resolution tad better in Steiner (only one sample scopes!)
-FOV approximately 2mils smaller in Steiner @ 25x
-FOV larger at 5x, no tunnel effect at all like in S&B
-Clicks tad sharper in S&B, Steiner still beeing very good
-Overall image quality really close to same
-Steiner elevation turret system very good in practice- brainfarts virtually impossible
Even if they would be same price, wouldnt know which one to pick. Hmm
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
The Steiner military 5-25 gives shooters another option besides the sb. For 500 bucks less plus a free pair of binos, it's a solid but for guys looking for german quality optics.
The more I shoot the msr the more I like it.
The Steiner military 5-25 gives shooters another option besides the sb. For 500 bucks less plus a free pair of binos, it's a solid but for guys looking for german quality optics.
The more I shoot the msr the more I like it.
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MSA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....Next I'm gonna slam the scope with .338LM for a while and see how the scope is doing after 6 months. If it performs well, we have a true challenger for S&B PMII 5-25x56.
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How about an update review? Its been close enough to 6 months!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MSA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....Next I'm gonna slam the scope with .338LM for a while and see how the scope is doing after 6 months. If it performs well, we have a true challenger for S&B PMII 5-25x56.
</div></div>
How about an update review? Its been close enough to 6 months!
Re: Steiner 5-25x56 available with MSR reticle
6 mils in either direction.....I'll edit with total in a bit.
6 mils in either direction.....I'll edit with total in a bit.
