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Ok, I have to admit, I had never thought use a tape measure to scribe a circle. But, I do know why the hook slot is loose.
Yep, shop for boys as well as home economics for girls should be reinstated. The bulk of my skill sets come from kin an need, early on. All Shop classes, enforced the need for strong math, design an logic skills.this is what happens when you pull "shop class" out of schools and replace it with "gender studies"
Yep, shop for boys as well as home economics for girls should be reinstated. The bulk of my skill sets come from kin an need, early on. All Shop classes, enforced the need for strong math, design an logic skills.
In 2011 weather issues/damage in Bama reinforced the need for basic skill sets which most around here have. In the bigger citys, they were begging for those with those skills to save their asses.
We definitely need a return to those life skill training in the schools. In 7th grade when I lived in Indiana, mid 80's, all students were required to take both shop and home-ec. I believe girls need to know how to run a band saw and drill press as much as a boy needs to know how to cook or sew.
Honestly, between the 2.....i cook and sew a lot more that i run a band saw
Honestly, between the 2.....i cook and sew a lot more that i run a band saw
I remember machine shop class. The first project was to take an odd shaped lump of metal and make a perfect 1" square out of it. You got a caliper, a file and some emery cloth.
It was worth 50% of your grade for the opening nine weeks.
Our auto shop teacher raced and built custom cars. He was into teaching "the right stuff".
Also, every Feminist will be looking for a man. JMHO
Shop/industrial arts is long gone in most schools. I've taken it upon my self to teach my kids these skills (I'm not in the trades), because I feel we're raising a nation of dummies. For years now, I've "supervised" their 4H projects. I tell them that I will "show" them how, but they have to do the work. It makes a simple project that should take a few hours sometimes last days. I have to take my patience pill, but I figure that's how the learn.
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From what I've read that was (and hopefully still is) something apprentices at Holland & Holland, Purdey, and other best gunmakers in England need to learn how to do.I'd always heard hand filing a 1" cube was something you should do if you want to be a badass machinist one day.
Evidently they didn't teach English spelling and punctuation.
Evidently they didn't teach English spelling and punctuation.
We had an excellent shop.
The classes were divided into woodworking and metal shop.
Also had mechanical drawing.
Not much left.
They sold the equipment for pennies on the dollar and did all but shit can the local vocation school.
You would think they were trying to force going to college...
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"First of all, congratulations on such a well-balanced resume. I sincerely admire that. Secondly, it’s hard to believe you could have “followed” me from the first days of Dirty Jobs and Deadliest Catch, and be so completely mistaken about my stance on the importance of a college education.
Apologies if I’m mistaken, but every day, protectors of “higher-education” come here to scold me for being “anti-college,” usually because they heard a soundbite on the news or saw a meme in their newsfeed they mistook for “research.” By and large, these are the same people who – if blindfolded – would touch the tusk of elephant and loudly announce to all the world the discovery of a creature made of solid ivory! And they always start as you do – by claiming to have “followed” me from the start. But then they argue in such a way that proves the exact opposite.
For instance, you write, “I find it disconcerting that you place so little value on academic education. Not all college grads are in debt. There are scholarships, grants, tuition assistance programs.”
If I may – where exactly, have you seen me argue against the importance of an academic education? Not the cost – I’m unapologetically opposed to the mind-bending, utterly indefensible skyrocketing cost of tuition. But if I question the value of a $2,000 pair of shoes, that doesn’t mean I’m “anti-footwear.”
And where exactly, have you heard me say or imply that “all” graduates are in debt? Sure – I’ve railed against the pressure we put on kids to borrow so much money at such a young age, and I’ve repeatedly likened the student loan bubble to the real-estate bubble that crushed our economy last time around. But where and when have I ever said that all graduates are indebted? If I’m critical of people who buy a house they can’t afford, that doesn’t mean I’m “anti-real-estate.”
And what exactly have I said or done to give you the impression that I’m unaware of “scholarships, grants, and tuition assistance programs?” In the last three years, not a month has gone by where I haven’t used Facebook to highlight a scholarship winner from my own foundation. Do you really want to use my own page to lecture me on the existence of scholarship money, while I’m using the same space to announce the recipients of millions of scholarship dollars? With respect, Michael, it’s just not a persuasive argument.
To be clear – I strongly support education in all its forms. I have a college degree, and as I’ve said many times, it’s served me well. But I believe society is making a terrible mistake by promoting college at the expense of all other forms of education. For instance, the surgeon you reference, (who I would indeed prefer to have graduated from an accredited university,) will never make it to the hospital to successfully remove my appendix without a functional infrastructure, which depends almost entirely upon an army of skilled tradespeople. And yet, our society clearly values the surgeon far more than mechanic who keeps her car running, or the contractor who put in the roads that allows her to drive to the emergency room.
This is the same bias that prompts us to pressure kids to borrow vast sums of money to get expensive degrees that all too frequently do not lead to a job that will pay them enough to service the debt. But again – that’s not an indictment of college; it’s a criticism of our tendency to encourage the same path for everyone, regardless of cost.
Let’s consider your example of the $100K degree in Russian Literature. As you’ve said, such a degree might very well be a wise choice for the right individual. Obviously, that’s undeniable. And I suppose, if the country were now facing an existential crises brought about by an alarming shortage of Russian Literature experts, I might very well be using this page to encourage more people to read Chekhov and Dostoevsky. But that’s neither the case, nor the point. The point, is that our culture does not make such nuanced distinctions when it comes to pushing the value of four-year schools – we push them on EVERYONE. We’ve got it into our heads that a college education is SO important, that the cost is irrelevant, along with the actual demand for whatever major a kid might wish to declare. “How dare anyone question such things!” Thus, we’ve encouraged an entire generation to borrow whatever it takes to get whatever degree they believe will make them happy. Is it any wonder tuition has risen so quickly?
Meanwhile, the kid who apprenticed to be a plumber or an electrician is looked at as something less. Even if he has no debt! Even if he makes six-figures a year! Even if he hangs out his own shingle and hires other plumbers! This year, American Standard donated $100,000 to my scholarship fund. It was a massive struggle to find anyone willing to learn the plumbing trade – even when the training was free! That’s because collectively, we still value that Russian Lit degree more than a plumbing certification! Honestly, it’s enough to make me rely on exclamation points way more than usual!!!
What I’ve opposed – consistently – is not the importance of higher education, but rather, the relentless drumbeat of “college for everyone.” That’s the real problem, and it’s worth repeating. Because this cookie-cutter approach to education presupposes that all worthwhile knowledge can only be attained from a college or a university. That’s the most dangerous myth of all, and the unintended consequences are now self-evident – the vanishing of shop class in high schools, $1.3 trillion dollars of student loans, and 6 million vacant jobs that no one is trained to do. That’s the skills gap. It’s real, and it’s a massive problem for anyone who shares my addiction to smooth roads, cool air, and indoor plumbing.
Finally, Michael, at the risk of protesting too much, let me assure you that those who actually follow this page know that my message is deeply pro-education. However – the best path for the most people should never the most expensive, and as long as the government is in the business of lending billions of dollars to college students, I’ll continue to challenge the idea that college is the only place to get a worthwhile education. Likewise, as long as six million jobs sit vacant – the majority of which do not require a four-year degree – I’ll encourage you to join me.
Best,
Mike
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Yep, shop for boys as well as home economics for girls should be reinstated. The bulk of my skill sets come from kin an need, early on. All Shop classes, enforced the need for strong math, design an logic skills.
In 2011 weather issues/damage in Bama reinforced the need for basic skill sets which most around here have. In the bigger citys, they were begging for those with those skills to save their asses.
Don't let the asshole on the left see that..........
Your right as Most Everyone in those days considered that was for girls. The boys needed to know how to design, build an repair everything. Worked out well for me, as even at 70yo I still teach Power Generation to the largest Power Supplier in the southeast. In fact teaching another class next week, an have 3 more to do before the year is out, you?
So, who is the guy on the left?
So, who is the guy on the left?
But if you have shop classes some students may choose a trades career and you won't be able to balloon the ranks of college enrollees with the potential of getting more teachers high paid tenure at a college.
Sure you are going to have to water down the college education in order to get these other skilled/not cut for college people to graduate but who cares because unskilled unemployed people are easy to control.
And PS - Home economics ain't just for girls. Any guy that can't prepare food to survive is dependent.
If you can cook, build, shoot and jerk off it may get a little boring but you can survive.