Rifle Scopes Super Sniper HD vs US Optics

[Snow Dog]

I never thought the two were comparable but the new Super Sniper 10x42 HD is looking pretty good at $800.

I have a couple of great US Optics' scopes but is the ST-10S worth the extra $431 (includes $200 for ERGO)?

Glass is going on 6.5 Grendel from current group buy.

Thanks for your thoughts

 

[Dagsta]

Re: Super Sniper HD vs US Optics

No offense dog, but that's apples to bananas bro!

 

[Swampkat]

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more like apples to filet mignon...

 

[KNIGHT11B4]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No offense dog, but that's apples to bananas bro! </div></div>

+1 If you have the option, meaning the funds available to choose... Get the USO hands down. Plus you get to build it your way. Hell even if you have to save up for a bit sill get the USO. USO's have a great resale value if you ever need to upgrade.

USO by a long shot IMO.

 

[Snow Dog]

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No offense taken and I agree in general that the US Optics line is far superior but that SS HD looks great at that $800 price point. Again, just not sure the US Optics offers enough of an upgrade for the extra $431.

 

[KNIGHT11B4]

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Question,

Have you ever been behind a USO, and not just looked, but really used one?

How will the rifle be used?

 

[jeo556]

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I hate to admit it but I've been wondering about this same question ever since Lowlight gave the new SS 10x HD such high remarks.

I understand that the USO is going to be a nicer overall scope but for a newbie getting into a "tacticool" scope and dialing for the first time.....is it worth the extra bucks to go with the USO? I don't plan on using a scope to drive tent stakes and from what I understand the HD glass runs with some of the best and dials accurately.

So is the additional $$$ well spent or not?

 

[sr15match]

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First thing. Do you have a budget to stick to and what are your expectations for the budget that is set?

I loved the ST-10 I had. The glass was awesome and it's all made to order. And yes resale value is tought to beat.

If I were buying another fixed power scope or only needed 10x then I'd be ringing up the folks at USO for another one.

To me, my own opinion, it's worth the extra $$$.

 

[Snow Dog]

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Yes I have used them. I currently have 2 SN-3s. One on a GAP AR10 and the other on an AIAW.

I plan on using the Grendel for Eastern Washington white tail so the SS will certainly work for that but I am a USO fan.

As you can see I am conflicted.

Have you all looked through the SS HD glass or seen Lowlight's review?

 

[g3ninfinite]

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Link me to this review please =]

 

[Snow Dog]

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It is under Sniper's Hide Videos on the front page of the site. You will need to register on the front page independent from the forum to access it. The SS HD review is on the second page of videos.

There is a ton of great info accessed from the front page of the site

www.snipershide.com

and I just saw we have a 10% discount code for SWFA which makes the 10x42HD $720 vs $1234 for the USO -- BALLS

 

[CanPopper]

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Depends on what you want the scope for. If looking for a scope with an outstanding tube, durability, and excellent turret feel, the USO ranks among the best, if not the best.

If looking for something with great visual quality, the SS HD should be able to match the USO if not beat it. The USO doesn't have alpha level glass. Its image quality is beta level.

 

[vlcruz2001]

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I currently have a SS10X42HD and had a USO ST10 as well. I would rate the glass right about equal to each other. The tracking is good on both scopes. The advantage the USO had was the Erek knob I had on it allowed me to get to 1000 yards in one revolution plus the zero stop, while the SS has no zero stop and takes 2 revs to get to 1000 yards. I also liked the parralax adjustment better on USO Ergo than the rear parralax adjustment of the SS. With the SS I do have to get from behind the rifle to look on top of the scope to see the setting. Lastly the USO is customizable to your liking. IMHO there is a big enough difference between the two that it is not an apples to apples comparison. However I do feel the SS HD model has it's merit and is a great scope on it's own. But the with the higher cost of the USO you certainly get a lot nicer options. Either scope will perform well. It's really up to you if the USO is worth the extra $431. Personally I would get the SS HD and use the extra money on ammo and practice.

 

[Prairie Dog Dundee]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Snow Dog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes I have used them. I currently have 2 SN-3s. One on a GAP AR10 and the other on an AIAW.

I plan on using the Grendel for Eastern Washington white tail so the SS will certainly work for that but I am a USO fan.

As you can see I am conflicted.

Have you all looked through the SS HD glass or seen Lowlight's review? </div></div>

If your looking for glass for hunting you might want to look at the SS 3-9. Personally I don't want parallax adjustments on a Deer hunting scope. I use the 3-9 SS out to 800 yards and have not had parallax issues. Glass is very good as are the adjustments. I see no reason to spend more on a scope than I need to for it to serve its function. Rugged, reliable and precise adjustments are all I ask. Save the high end glass for a high end bolt rifle. I am well served by my two 3-9 SS.
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[ggmanning]

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There are some very good deals on ST-10's here on the Hide. I picked mine up here a couple of months ago for much less than what new would have been. I don't think you can undervalue the fact that USO's are USA made and if you have any issues or questions you can PM the owner right here. I had a SS 3-9 and was very satisfied. I think SS's are a great value but they are not a USO.

 

[BCP]

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USO you get a better knob and a better reticle as well as upgrade options down the road. The glass in both is comparable.

So you need to ask yourself if you need the extra features that the USO has for whatever gun it is going on.

 

[speedracer]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CanPopper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If looking for something with great visual quality, the SS HD should be able to match the USO if not beat it. The USO doesn't have alpha level glass. Its image quality is beta level. </div></div>


Could someone shed some more light on this for me or provide a link so I can do my own research on optical clarity grading of glass and what scopes score what?

I am also looking for a scope and I'm torn between getting the SS HD and hitting the range now or saving for six or seven months for a variable power USO. From what I've read a fixed 10x would be more than adequate for my intended use. But variable power scopes are more versatile and should I venture further into the sport the variable USO would take me all the way.

But if the optical quality of an SS HD is better than an ST-10 that would seal the deal for me and I would just grab the fixed 10x and hit the range and start practicing.

 

[Mute]

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AFAIK, no one has done any kind of resolution test on these scopes so any discussion about better optical clarity will be opinion at best. Don't over-think this. Optical clarity is fine and dandy, but what's important is durability, reliable and accurate tracking, a good, usable reticle and a consistent return to zero. I'd put these qualities way ahead of the optical quality as long as I can clearly see and identify my target. There are other features that may push one scope or the other over the top on the decision chain but those are more preferences then anything else.

Your best bet is to see if you can touch base with other shooters who own these two scopes and look through them. If you want to grow with the scope and not worry about having to make another purchase decision, I suggest you go with a variable. It will be more versatile.

 

[CanPopper]

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Here is the test performed by a number of us on this board:
http://www.vimeo.com/5661028

A whole bunch of us got together to look through scopes. USO's were very well represented at the test.

Outside of the Alpha glass such as S&B, Premier, and Hendsoldt, we were very hard pressed to separate optical performance from the beta level glass. Our consensus was if you are going to buy beta glass, go look at the other features such as price, tube, turrets, tracking, mechanicals, warranty, reliability, etc.