Re: Suppressing a Glock 21
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..
Of course they will send along as many as you want, that is not my point. Some refuse to use them.
They want barrels in spec. As far as damage, out of spec barrels with locking lugs out of spec, etc. cause lock-up rounding wear, slide slap at top, bushing/end slide dimension wear, you name it. On any pistol, a balancing act exists between the Neilson device and the barrel. Most cans actually overcompensate with their Neilsons to insure cycling. In other words, the Neilson doesn't really float the barrel, but provides for an over active slide kick. A sloppy barrel, one that isn't really in spec, hardened properly takes it all out on the slide, banging into and out of action and slapping through the slide. That can on the end that is supposed to be weightless, isn't, and its highly leveraged weight takes a toll on the slide.
If the question is "are there better barrels than LW, IMO the answer is hell yes"
Like everything else, you get what you pay for. Get a decent barrel, absolutely essential for some models of Glock.
Do you think drop in is great? Why do you think most of the better barrel houses sell semi drop in? Do you think they can't finish their barrels themselves? Do you think these guys don;t know there is somebody out there selling barrels at less than 50% off?
Get your barrel fitted, especially for a suppressed Glock. Just because your suppressed Glock runs with a cheap barrel isn't always goodness.
Glock Model 21
<span style="color: #FF0000">Lone Wolf</span>
LWD Barrel M/21T 45 ACP Tactical Threaded .578 x 28 <span style="color: #FF0000">$124.95</span>
<span style="color: #FF0000">Bar-Sto </span>
Glock Model 21 Ext.&T - Extended & Threaded Barrel (Includes Thread Protector)
<span style="color: #CC0000">Semi Drop</span> In Match Target .578 X 28 TPI <span style="color: #CC0000"> $290.00</span>
<span style="color: #FF0000"> Thunder Lake</span>
GL-21-45ACP-05T-T-0P-5.3<span style="color: #FF0000"> $225.00</span>
<span style="color: #FF0000">Jarvis</span>
Glock 21, <span style="color: #CC0000">Fitting Required</span>, Extended Length, .578-28 (45 thread) <span style="color: #CC0000">$260.00 </span>
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Well a manufacture part is either in spec or not hence the interchangeable nature of components. You lost me referring to locking lugs and Glock in the same sentence.
1911= lugs
Glock=locking surface.
Bar-sto offeres a semi-drop in barrel which is similar-
"A SEMI DROP IN Barrel Generally requires little to no fitting. They should go in about 7 out of 10 times with no fitting required but with the tolerance of firearms, this is not always the case."
Same for Storm Lake-
"QuestioN:
What is the difference between drop-in and oversize?
answer:
A drop-in barrel can typically be installed by the user with little to no fitting. Glock part tolerances are generally held quite well, and as a result will almost always allow for an easy drop-in. Some firearm tolerances are not held as well. As a result, the barrels we sell for these models must be designated as semi drop-in barrel and may occasionally require the aid of a gunsmith. All drop-in and semi drop-in Storm Lake Barrels are manufactured with the intent to provide the closest tolerance lock up for best accuracy while allowing for the least amount of required fitting. If your purchased barrel does not drop in, we recommend that you take the product to an experienced gunsmith to fit it. Please note that we cannot accept returns on barrels which have been modified."
If you want a fitted barrel that's great. After shooting bulleseye 1911's I have gotten away from over tight pistols (Barrels, bushings, slides) in favor of reliability and easy of disassemble and parts interchangeability.
I had a couple Bar-Sto barrels on my bulleseye guns and they are top notch. I do think its overkill for suppressor use on a combat intended pistol.
Its all good.