Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

[Tangodown911]

I often see the recessed surefire mounts/brakes (MB762SSAL/RE) on rifles, but rarely see guys running the end mounts (MB762-211C). I understand the advantages of using the recessed mount...adds less length to the overall platform and is less muzzle heavy.

The application is a 18.5" .308 and would like to run a suppressor for fun shooting and hunt with the rifle for deer season. I can do without the brake during deer season and I'm not of a fan of turning down the muzzle for the 2.75" that is needed for the recessed brake. I figured it would be easier to run the end mount and suppressor when i needed it.

What experience have you had with the two and how do they compare? Is the end mount a better idea?

 

[remau308]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

I would also like to find out the consensus on these. I was about to send mine off to have the recessed brake installed, but I would now like to find out more about the MB762-211C. So let's bump this up.

 

[Pusher591]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

If you search my post I done a search of this muzzle brake and a few posted pics.

If either of you need one I will be getting mine back from my smith because I can get a good deal on another suppressor so PM me if you are intrested. It is brand new and comes with shims.

 

[RyanScott]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

The 762SS and 762K are negligibly different in length and weight. The bigger one is 4db quieter.

 

[1911pimp]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

PM sent on MB762-211C

 

[1911pimp]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

I will be sending my 700 off to SAC to get it cut down to 18.5 and get the surefire brake put on, not sure if it will be the short brake, because surefire is sold out... but i do have the long one on its way here. both look great but the long one does balance better with the can on.

 

[remau308]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

Is there anyone who has one of the longer ones installed and regrets it, or dislikes it? Why? Also, is there anyone who just absolutely loves theirs? Has anyone noticed a loss or increase in accuracy after having it installed?

 

[rwest309]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

I absolutely love mine. All of them. I have the mb762ss al/re on my OBR and my 18 inch surgeon bolt rifle as well as on a 16 inch rem 700 300 blackout build and one on my m1a I forget the model but its the long one for the m1a. I have the long 556 brake on my noveske recce as well. They work phenomenally well as brakes and the 762ss that I am waiting on should interchange on every one of them. If I didnt shoot fclass with my 243 and 260 at times I would probably have 2 more on the way for those rifles. I think either one will serve the same purpose you just need to pick short or long and get ready to buy more of them. The machine work required to install the long one on a heavy barrel is the only difference that I can see. I did not like the look at first but It has grown on me. Accuracy increase...no probably not but no decrease. You will be able to spot your own hits though

 

[remau308]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

Thanks for the opinion, I didn't really expect any kind of increase, but you never know. I was most worried about having the barrel cut down to only .7" diameter at the end I guess. I do like the look of them, but I am more concerned with the performance, and it really narrows down my choice for a suppressor when that time comes as well.

 

[B.Morgan]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

I was worried about turning down the barrels on mine but after I did I was happy. I didn't see any problems with accuracy degradation on my rifles. I run many different suppressors and this is one of my favorites. It's a very tough system. Only problem I have had is when I had my DTA and didn't have room for the over the barrel mount due to the rails, so I went a different direction on that gun.

 

[Lowlight]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

The Surefire brake is awesome... I actually like it better than the suppressor at times and find myself shooting more with just the brake than with the can.

Especially on a shorter barrel it's benefits cannot be overstated.

 

[sickeness]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

I was faced with the same dilemma and I contacted Surefire and talked to one of their technicians, this is what I was told:

The original application for the recessed brake was for AR10 type rifles where the muzzle would NOT need to be turned down due to skinnier barrel profile. It was never really intended to be used with bolt action rifles. People started using them for bolt guns regardless due to the efficient design of the brake and suppressor and the fact that there was originally no short one available. Both brakes add the same amount of length to the barrel end.

The 211C short brake was released later and was designed for applications like heavy barreled bolt guns so that you do not need to turn down the muzzle end. Both brakes use different suppressors. The advantage of the long brake is that the suppressor that goes with the long brake mounts more securely due to the fact it mounts farther down the barrel.

I would definitely go for the short brake. That way if you ever decide to switch brakes or suppressors in the long run you have the option of doing so, once you get your muzzle turned down for the long brake, nothing else will ever look right. There really is no reason other than looks (if you dig that look) to pick the long brake on a heavy barrel.

 

[remau308]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

I understand the point of view about not wanting to turn down the barrel because it will look funky without the brake on it, but the rifle is going to be a M40A5 build essentially with a couple twists, like not having my action clip-slotted, the barrel is a Rock Creek, and I'm using the Badger 30MOA base. I think after a few of the reassurances, I will like the brake like I originally thought I would.

 

[Chucky]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sickeness</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was faced with the same dilemma and I contacted Surefire and talked to one of their technicians, this is what I was told:

The original application for the recessed brake was for AR10 type rifles where the muzzle would NOT need to be turned down due to skinnier barrel profile. It was never really intended to be used with bolt action rifles. People started using them for bolt guns regardless due to the efficient design of the brake and suppressor and the fact that there was originally no short one available. Both brakes add the same amount of length to the barrel end.

The 211C short brake was released later and was designed for applications like heavy barreled bolt guns so that you do not need to turn down the muzzle end. Both brakes use different suppressors. The advantage of the long brake is that the suppressor that goes with the long brake mounts more securely due to the fact it mounts farther down the barrel.

I would definitely go for the short brake. That way if you ever decide to switch brakes or suppressors in the long run you have the option of doing so, once you get your muzzle turned down for the long brake, nothing else will ever look right. There really is no reason other than looks (if you dig that look) to pick the long brake on a heavy barrel. </div></div>

If you are going to be running a suppressor the 762SS is a quieter suppressor and usually it has a smaller shift than the 762K because the weight is closer to the action.

 

[rwest309]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chucky</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are going to be running a suppressor the 762SS is a quieter suppressor and usually it has a smaller shift than the 762K because the weight is closer to the action.</div></div>

That is yet another really good reason to run the MB762SS AL/RE on everything you own. You get the absolute best brake out there (IMHO) and if you decide to get a can you are "stuck" with the best surefire .30 cal can made. Sounds alot like..."Winning!"

 

[LawnMM]

Re: Surefire .30 brake- end mount over the recessed

Apology for the thread necromancy, but do you guys know how far back the barrel needs to be threaded for the 211C? How much length does it add to the barrel from the threads forward?

Rich