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Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
Uh also... getting 200 rds down range in 18.5 seconds is a battle changer? Sure... if you want to burn through all your ammo and be a sitting duck.
Okay to be honest, what I took away from that video is:
-The mags are reliable- mag dump after mag dump <span style="text-decoration: underline">seem</span> to demonstrate proved that.
-The 100rd mag is incredibly <span style="font-weight: bold">LONG</span>.
-There are a lot of guys that think clamping two mags together is a good idea.
And it reinforced what I've already known:
-This really only solves a problem for an automatic rifleman.
-Increases weapon weight.
-Makes weapon more cumbersome.
All said- I see pretty limited use for these. Sure it's nice to have a BUNCH of ammo already in your gun, but if you're burning through 30-40 rounds without a chance to reload... You might be doing it wrong*, and you might run out of ammo a little early. Heavy volume of fire is what you use MG's for.
*best exception I can think of to this would be for break contact.
Uh also... getting 200 rds down range in 18.5 seconds is a battle changer? Sure... if you want to burn through all your ammo and be a sitting duck.
Okay to be honest, what I took away from that video is:
-The mags are reliable- mag dump after mag dump <span style="text-decoration: underline">seem</span> to demonstrate proved that.
-The 100rd mag is incredibly <span style="font-weight: bold">LONG</span>.
-There are a lot of guys that think clamping two mags together is a good idea.
And it reinforced what I've already known:
-This really only solves a problem for an automatic rifleman.
-Increases weapon weight.
-Makes weapon more cumbersome.
All said- I see pretty limited use for these. Sure it's nice to have a BUNCH of ammo already in your gun, but if you're burning through 30-40 rounds without a chance to reload... You might be doing it wrong*, and you might run out of ammo a little early. Heavy volume of fire is what you use MG's for.
*best exception I can think of to this would be for break contact.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
I want one of the 60's, I wont lie. I only want it cause its more than my 48 round mag and having 60 in the same size of a 30 (for the most part, might be a little longer than a standard 30) kicks ass. And its got a wide base so would be good for monopodding off of.
I want one of the 60's, I wont lie. I only want it cause its more than my 48 round mag and having 60 in the same size of a 30 (for the most part, might be a little longer than a standard 30) kicks ass. And its got a wide base so would be good for monopodding off of.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want one of the 60's, I wont lie. I only want it cause its more than my 48 round mag and having 60 in the same size of a 30 (for the most part, might be a little longer than a standard 30) kicks ass. And its got a wide base so would be good for monopodding off of. </div></div>
Outsy I would want one also but at $129 for the sixty rounder I might have to wait until they come down some.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want one of the 60's, I wont lie. I only want it cause its more than my 48 round mag and having 60 in the same size of a 30 (for the most part, might be a little longer than a standard 30) kicks ass. And its got a wide base so would be good for monopodding off of. </div></div>
Outsy I would want one also but at $129 for the sixty rounder I might have to wait until they come down some.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strangedays</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want one of the 60's, I wont lie. I only want it cause its more than my 48 round mag and having 60 in the same size of a 30 (for the most part, might be a little longer than a standard 30) kicks ass. And its got a wide base so would be good for monopodding off of. </div></div>
Outsy I would want one also but at $129 for the sixty rounder I might have to wait until they come down some. </div></div>
HOLY SMOKES!!!! I will admit that although I see very, very limited "real world" use for this, if they were more reasonable I'd think about picking one up just for fun. But that price isn't even close to reasonable.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strangedays</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want one of the 60's, I wont lie. I only want it cause its more than my 48 round mag and having 60 in the same size of a 30 (for the most part, might be a little longer than a standard 30) kicks ass. And its got a wide base so would be good for monopodding off of. </div></div>
Outsy I would want one also but at $129 for the sixty rounder I might have to wait until they come down some. </div></div>
HOLY SMOKES!!!! I will admit that although I see very, very limited "real world" use for this, if they were more reasonable I'd think about picking one up just for fun. But that price isn't even close to reasonable.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That CPL kid is fucked up showing up in uniform on a commercial advertisement </div></div>
How so.....he works for the company & in the video he has no visible patches or insignia. He is just wearing a camo outfit.....what gives..?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That CPL kid is fucked up showing up in uniform on a commercial advertisement </div></div>
How so.....he works for the company & in the video he has no visible patches or insignia. He is just wearing a camo outfit.....what gives..?
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mgd45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That CPL kid is fucked up showing up in uniform on a commercial advertisement </div></div>
How so.....he works for the company & in the video he has no visible patches or insignia. He is just wearing a camo outfit.....what gives..? </div></div>
He's wearing a distinctly USMC uniform and made sure to state his service in a a commercial advertisement. The only thing that could have been worse was doing the same for a political advertisement.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mgd45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That CPL kid is fucked up showing up in uniform on a commercial advertisement </div></div>
How so.....he works for the company & in the video he has no visible patches or insignia. He is just wearing a camo outfit.....what gives..? </div></div>
He's wearing a distinctly USMC uniform and made sure to state his service in a a commercial advertisement. The only thing that could have been worse was doing the same for a political advertisement.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mgd45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That CPL kid is fucked up showing up in uniform on a commercial advertisement </div></div>
How so.....he works for the company & in the video he has no visible patches or insignia. He is just wearing a camo outfit.....what gives..? </div></div>
He's wearing a distinctly USMC uniform and made sure to state his service in a a commercial advertisement. The only thing that could have been worse was doing the same for a political advertisement. </div></div>
Agree, Cammies are for work only. But damn for the new Automatic Rifleman replacement rifle by HK or similar those mags would be pretty nifty.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mgd45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That CPL kid is fucked up showing up in uniform on a commercial advertisement </div></div>
How so.....he works for the company & in the video he has no visible patches or insignia. He is just wearing a camo outfit.....what gives..? </div></div>
He's wearing a distinctly USMC uniform and made sure to state his service in a a commercial advertisement. The only thing that could have been worse was doing the same for a political advertisement. </div></div>
Agree, Cammies are for work only. But damn for the new Automatic Rifleman replacement rifle by HK or similar those mags would be pretty nifty.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
If Surefire would drop the price to even 100 bucks I would probably buy one .. but 129 is atleast 29 too much.
If Surefire would drop the price to even 100 bucks I would probably buy one .. but 129 is atleast 29 too much.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
Give it six months, they will come down. I want one or two myself
Give it six months, they will come down. I want one or two myself
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
Of course if some idiot politician introduces a bill to limit high cap magazine production (in view of the recent Arizona shooting), I don't think they will have any problem getting $129 for the mags.
Of course if some idiot politician introduces a bill to limit high cap magazine production (in view of the recent Arizona shooting), I don't think they will have any problem getting $129 for the mags.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unknown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Of course if some idiot politician introduces a bill to limit high cap magazine production (in view of the recent Arizona shooting), I don't think they will have any problem getting $129 for the mags. </div></div>
I highly doubt anything gun related will come from this. Plus the dumb thing is if they make a ban on it you think the price would stay at where it is now? Has history not proven that things cost more when such laws exsist? Like I said I doubt anything will come from this but if there was it would be more like Surefires two hundred dollar mag.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unknown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Of course if some idiot politician introduces a bill to limit high cap magazine production (in view of the recent Arizona shooting), I don't think they will have any problem getting $129 for the mags. </div></div>
I highly doubt anything gun related will come from this. Plus the dumb thing is if they make a ban on it you think the price would stay at where it is now? Has history not proven that things cost more when such laws exsist? Like I said I doubt anything will come from this but if there was it would be more like Surefires two hundred dollar mag.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mgd45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That CPL kid is fucked up showing up in uniform on a commercial advertisement </div></div>
How so.....he works for the company & in the video he has no visible patches or insignia. He is just wearing a camo outfit.....what gives..? </div></div>
He's wearing a distinctly USMC uniform and made sure to state his service in a a commercial advertisement. The only thing that could have been worse was doing the same for a political advertisement. </div></div>
Actually, he never said a word about his job, service in the military or otherwise.....it was the Surefire Rep. Would that still get him in trouble....?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mgd45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That CPL kid is fucked up showing up in uniform on a commercial advertisement </div></div>
How so.....he works for the company & in the video he has no visible patches or insignia. He is just wearing a camo outfit.....what gives..? </div></div>
He's wearing a distinctly USMC uniform and made sure to state his service in a a commercial advertisement. The only thing that could have been worse was doing the same for a political advertisement. </div></div>
Actually, he never said a word about his job, service in the military or otherwise.....it was the Surefire Rep. Would that still get him in trouble....?
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
I'd buy one! The sixty rounder looks reasonably sized. I don't buy the LE angle. My Eastside (Seattle) SWAT buddy has never had to fire one round on a call out, thank god. But the Hollywood shoot out comes to mind. Hell, I just want one or two of the 60 rounders. JPG
I'd buy one! The sixty rounder looks reasonably sized. I don't buy the LE angle. My Eastside (Seattle) SWAT buddy has never had to fire one round on a call out, thank god. But the Hollywood shoot out comes to mind. Hell, I just want one or two of the 60 rounders. JPG
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
But will they function in an M249....
If anyone knows or hears, post it up please.
But will they function in an M249....
If anyone knows or hears, post it up please.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
60 rounder looks useful. Nix the 100 - too long, particularly if you're belly down.
60 rounder looks useful. Nix the 100 - too long, particularly if you're belly down.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mgd45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mgd45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That CPL kid is fucked up showing up in uniform on a commercial advertisement </div></div>
How so.....he works for the company & in the video he has no visible patches or insignia. He is just wearing a camo outfit.....what gives..? </div></div>
He's wearing a distinctly USMC uniform and made sure to state his service in a a commercial advertisement. The only thing that could have been worse was doing the same for a political advertisement. </div></div>
Actually, he never said a word about his job, service in the military or otherwise.....it was the Surefire Rep. Would that still get him in trouble....? </div></div>
Yes, it should.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mgd45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mgd45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That CPL kid is fucked up showing up in uniform on a commercial advertisement </div></div>
How so.....he works for the company & in the video he has no visible patches or insignia. He is just wearing a camo outfit.....what gives..? </div></div>
He's wearing a distinctly USMC uniform and made sure to state his service in a a commercial advertisement. The only thing that could have been worse was doing the same for a political advertisement. </div></div>
Actually, he never said a word about his job, service in the military or otherwise.....it was the Surefire Rep. Would that still get him in trouble....? </div></div>
Yes, it should.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
I"m going to order a few for the fact that I'm sure one day they will be worth a lot of money when the libs ban hi-cap magazines
I"m going to order a few for the fact that I'm sure one day they will be worth a lot of money when the libs ban hi-cap magazines
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The 60 rounds don't look much longer than a mil spec 30rnd mag. Just a little heavier. I actually think the 60rnd is pretty useful.
The 60 rounds don't look much longer than a mil spec 30rnd mag. Just a little heavier. I actually think the 60rnd is pretty useful.
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is the 60 round not going to be too heavy? does this not stress the mag release? id just as soon wait for the magpul version
is the 60 round not going to be too heavy? does this not stress the mag release? id just as soon wait for the magpul version
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I'm perfectly happy with a 100rd BETAmag but would like to try the 60rounder
I'm perfectly happy with a 100rd BETAmag but would like to try the 60rounder
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kmc0929</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is the 60 round not going to be too heavy? does this not stress the mag release? id just as soon wait for the magpul version </div></div>
If yours can't handle it it might be an airsoft rifle.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kmc0929</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is the 60 round not going to be too heavy? does this not stress the mag release? id just as soon wait for the magpul version </div></div>
If yours can't handle it it might be an airsoft rifle.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That CPL kid is fucked up showing up in uniform on a commercial advertisement </div></div>
Really?
He's a reservist. You can't see a globe & anchor. He works for Surefire. What's he supposed to wear, urban Tiger Stripes? The PAO won't have a beef here, if anything he's good for the recruiting effort. Good weapon-handling skills and well-spoken. Nice shooting Devil Dog, thank you for your service!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That CPL kid is fucked up showing up in uniform on a commercial advertisement </div></div>
Really?
He's a reservist. You can't see a globe & anchor. He works for Surefire. What's he supposed to wear, urban Tiger Stripes? The PAO won't have a beef here, if anything he's good for the recruiting effort. Good weapon-handling skills and well-spoken. Nice shooting Devil Dog, thank you for your service!
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
...and I was feeling bad about my 40 round PMags @ $22
I'm screwed now being a Surefire addict 8>)
a couple each from Midway put me back $600
...and I was feeling bad about my 40 round PMags @ $22
I'm screwed now being a Surefire addict 8>)
a couple each from Midway put me back $600
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
I'm glad that companies out there are innovating, but I think I'll hold off and see some reviews outside of the SureFire test bubble before I pick any up.
Interesting idea though.
I'm glad that companies out there are innovating, but I think I'll hold off and see some reviews outside of the SureFire test bubble before I pick any up.
Interesting idea though.
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From what I remember, if the Marine has prior concent he is allowed. The script must be preapproved.
From what I remember, if the Marine has prior concent he is allowed. The script must be preapproved.
Re: Surefire's new 60 and 100 rd mags
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jwb47</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the 60 rounder looks like it might let me cram 20-25 458 socoms in a mag. I need one bad. </div></div>
This is where I see the biggest benefit.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jwb47</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the 60 rounder looks like it might let me cram 20-25 458 socoms in a mag. I need one bad. </div></div>
This is where I see the biggest benefit.
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