Re: Surgeon or Templar action?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trevor300wsm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mike,
I'm alot of things, but an idiot isn't one them. Yes, there was sarcasm in there, obviously, but I also attained the exact response that I knew (someone) would reply with, not necessarily you, but someone. Thus, pretty much proving the point that was being made with my sarcasm. Look at Morris, he didn't even do or say anything out of line against anyone and out of fear from your reply, he posted an apology. That's absolutely ridiculous. This is the Internet, nobody is going to come beat your door down and steal your children for a comment you make on this board.
<span style="color: #FF0000">First, I'll apologize for calling you an idiot. It wasn't meant as that and was meant in a sarcastic tone, but either was wasn't called for and I apologize. Morris didn't realize his sarcasm would incite a reaction, either intended or not. He had no reason to apologize as he did nothing wrong, as I said his quote just happened to get caught with yours. It is the internet and although you're right, no one is going to come to your door, it also doesn't prevent us from expressing our feelings or opinion. </span>
Mike,
I'm fully aware that very very few things in life are either black or white. 99.9% of everything falls within the gray area, including life itself. In regards to our actions, it's no different than a Ford vs Chevy issue. There will most likely never a end to it. Both actions are great, obviously. Youd be a fool to think that either were any less than superb. Furthermore, if there is one better than the other, I doubt anyone on here or anywhere could shoot the differnce to discern it.
A<span style="color: #FF0000">gree 100% which is what I feel every responder should have said. If one says "hey, I like XXXX because of this", that's great. I respect your opinion, but they are both excellent actions and you can't go wrong either way. Where the train quickly derails is the "xxxx is better (because I said so)" or the infamous "I've owned both and XXXX is way better". Stupid broad brush statements (and I'm the first to admit I've been very guilty of it) are stupid and do nothing more than alienate those qualified to speak the actual truth from experience. </span>
I've got no beef with George or GAP. I've never made one slanderous comment about him or the company. They make a fine rifle. I've owned a couple in the past. My comments have always been just as was stated above. Sarcasm in regards to how GAP reins supreme here, nothing more, nothing less. People like you, Frank, and others have a valid reason to take the stance you do. The rest are just going along with "monkey see monkey do". People that don't even own a GAP rifle and probably never will are some of the first ones to trump them up the most. So, to quote you, that shits getting old, quick. If those same people, that have no expericane with a given product, a scope for example, were to get on here and start pumping it up, they'd be thought of as total morons, but since it's a GAP rifle, it's ok.
<span style="color: #FF0000">The problem here is that, in jest or not, it's taken seriously. And when one is sarcastic people outside the "know" are inclined to take that seriously and it lessens the credibility of everyone involved from GAP themselves to even Frank, I or others promoting GAP. There are ample smiths here and ample product manufacturers who make kick ass products. But George et al has earned their reputation and their position and to have that challenged, even jokingly (lest among friends), is unfair. There is a bunch of history that goes along with that that you may not be aware of so that may be influencing my opinion as well. Next, and I think that George would be the first to admit it, is that GAP is not without mistakes. They're not perfect by any means. However, I do know they bust their ass to fix any mistake or misunderstanding and that effort, again, goes to strengthen their reputation here. GAP is not exclusive in this regard, but perhaps just the most tenured. </span>
Mike, I have no beef with you either, even though you called me an idiot. If I had done the same to you, I think the outcome would be slightly different, however that's neither here nor there. I don't know you, you probably a great guy. However that little "M" beside your name does not come with an implied level of respect that others must extend to you. Your a mod on a Internet forum, so what. Away from the keyboard, your just another guy on the steet. Nothing more, nothing less. Im sure you have the same level of respect for a total stranger as I do, which isn't much. Nothing wrong with that. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers personally, your just the one that decided to bite.
<span style="color: #FF0000">Again, let me make two things clear. First, my apology for calling you an idiot is sincere and the fact I meant it in a joking/sarcastic way doesn't excuse that.
Second, that little "M" by my name doesn't mean shit. All it says is I'll delete threads if you're trying to sell with less than 100 posts. You can ask Frank or anyone that has been here long enough that I have had PLENTY of discussions, heated discussions, and arguments and have not used that "M" erroneously. So to think I'm waving that around like a sword daring anyone to challenge my "authority" is incorrect as that is not my feelings. The Hide is not my life. In person I'm a great guy, or an asshole, depending on who you talk to. To quote a famous animated sailor "I am what I am". Most people that meet me face to face realize that a majority of the time I am a very nice guy and treat people well. But I don't walk on water and either do you-or anyone so sometimes feathers are ruffled, sometimes they get ruffled. Either way life goes on.</span>
No hard feelings on my end.
<span style="color: #FF0000">There are non on my end. Let's meet face to face and we'll shake hands and talk.</span></div></div>
