Swedish M. 1896 Carl Gustav 1919 Rifle question

[*greenhorn*]

i know nothing about this gun, but a guy at the range today had one of these he got from a family member and was trying to find where he could get rounds or reloading for this.

some old time their said he could make the brass, or have it made out of a 308 casing???? i don't know i got his number and i said i would ask around and see if i could help him.

thax in advance

 

[BasraBoy]

Re: Swedish M. 1896 Carl Gustav 1919 Rifle question

As far as I know the Carl Gustav's are Swedish Mauser's...aren't they?

What calibre is your mate's rifle?

Shouldn't be too hard to find any 6.5 Swedish, 7mm, 8mm or 9mm brass should it?

Maybe get in touch with Simpson's - they always seem to have a good selection of Swedish and german Mausers in a variety of calibres so should know where to get the components and/or ammo.

 

[ddavis]

Re: Swedish M. 1896 Carl Gustav 1919 Rifle question

Cheap loaded ammo:

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?i...&groupid=98

Brass:

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?&sortby=1&itemsperpage=20&newcategorydimensionid=6211

Lapua brass just happens to be on sale right now and 6.5x55 along with .308 is some of their cheapest brass.


This is all assuming that the rifle is still in unmolested original condition and not rechambered. 6.5x55 is an excellent long range cartridge. I've got one in a mauser made in 1900 and a modern Tikka T3.

Regards,
-Dan

 

[MLC]

Re: Swedish M. 1896 Carl Gustav 1919 Rifle question

You'd be hard pressed to form 6.5x55 from 308 brass.
Winchester, Federal, Lapua and Sellier and Bellot all offer 6.5x55 ammo and or brass as I have all of the above.
Winchester would probably be the best mix of value and quality but there is some disagreement about it being undersized for the true dimensions of a 6.5x55.
It is slightly larger at the casehead than the '06 based brass that Winchester uses.

 

[Mike Hull]

Re: Swedish M. 1896 Carl Gustav 1919 Rifle question

I would buy Lapua brass. All the American stuff is made from 30-06 head size and the Swede is slightly bigger.
SAAMI here adopted the 30-06 head size deeming it more economical, but it shortens case life considerably. The Euro standard is CIL, IIRC. So stick with that for any brass or measuring devices(headspace guages, etc.)

 

[mkmckinley]

Re: Swedish M. 1896 Carl Gustav 1919 Rifle question

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MLC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You'd be hard pressed to form 6.5x55 from 308 brass.
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Haha, hard pressed, I got it.

 

[Badshot308]

Re: Swedish M. 1896 Carl Gustav 1919 Rifle question

I had one years ago that had been re-barreled in 30-06 and put into a sporter stock. I should have kept it. If the guys rifle is chambered in 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser, there's plenty of ammo available for it http://www.midwayusa.com/find?&sortby=1&itemsperpage=20&newcategorydimensionid=9790

 

[jb7032]

Re: Swedish M. 1896 Carl Gustav 1919 Rifle question

They are great rifles! I've had several. Back in the 90s you could get one for less than $100. I still have two, both 6.5x55. One is all original. The other is sporterized, walnut stock(glass bedded), mil barrel cut to 24", dayton trigger. It shoots 3/4 moa easy and the barrel isn't even floated.

Maybe someone will correct me if i'm wrong but I beleive that sweden imported some K98s in 8mm. I do know that some "Swedish" mauser models were built by Oberndorf.

I'd just use rem or win 6.5x55 brass if its still out there.
308 brass might be too short. My dad made it out of 7mm mauser brass once, but that was when there was almost no brass available.

 

[BasraBoy]

Re: Swedish M. 1896 Carl Gustav 1919 Rifle question

Certainly some of the Swedish rifles were made at Oberndorf (for example 40,000 Swedish Model 1896 rifles amongst others).

The Swedish also had what they called the Model 40 issued to MG teams.

It was essentially a K98k rechambered for the Swedish 8mm machine gun cartridge which restricted the chamber capacity to 4 rounds and needed a muzzle brake!). This held the record for being the world's most powerful bolt action rifle at the time!!

 

[ddavis]

Re: Swedish M. 1896 Carl Gustav 1919 Rifle question

My original Swedish Mauser is a 1900 Oberndorf. It is a 6.5x55. They were only made there in 1899 and 1900. I really only keep it for the nostalgia. It is low recoil and accurate, but I don't shoot it much.

 

[*greenhorn*]

Re: Swedish M. 1896 Carl Gustav 1919 Rifle question

ill pass on the good news thax guys

 

[polish handgunner]

Re: Swedish M. 1896 Carl Gustav 1919 Rifle question

When i got my Swede years ago 6.5 x 55 brass was not readily available.
I necked up 6mm Remington brass by passing it through the 6.5 x 55 sizing die.

Since i shoot mostly lower velocity cast bullets in my Swede i have had no problems.

 

[cvedrick]

Re: Swedish M. 1896 Carl Gustav 1919 Rifle question

Have had a matching #s 1916 dated Carl Gustov for years, out in the sticks we get giggles by blasting store brand cola @ 50yd.

Great Fun!

This led me to do a WTF bid on gunbroker for a non matching, 1906 dated GC. Won it and had it shipped as C&R for $250.00

Cleaned barrel and action thoroughly, drilled and tapped receiver for Warne mounts $30.00, Bent the bolt handle down 90deg. and back @ +/- 15deg. Mounted a Swift 6x18x44 I had sitting around with Burris X-tra tall rings (also sitting around)
and re-shaped the mag follower to allow the bolt to close on empty.

Total outlay of cash on new stuff >$300

Got some Norma brass, Fed 210 primers, 40gr. RE-22 with 140gr bullets, Nosler HPBT, Sierra SPBT, and Speer SPFB.

Took out to the bench, 5 round groups, all were 1/2" or a bit smaller.

I giggle every time I sit down next to someone with an expensive custom that they are so proud of.

Heck I see guys with $2000 worth of Remington/Leupold combos who have a tough time getting that!