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Swimming in the Magpul Koolaid

Phylodog

Hidin since '06
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Aug 9, 2006
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After getting tired of the concussion from my 10.5" barreled LMT upper and getting curious about different styles of shooting I ordered a 12.5" Kino configuration upper from Bravo Company. Unexpectedly BCM shipped a couple of Panteo DVD's with the upper, one of them from Travis Haley. I've watched some of the video and he gets into the theory behind the "thumb over" style of shooting the AR15 rifles. With the added length of my new upper I decided to give it a shot last week. After getting the irons and T1 zeroed I moved up to 7 yards from the target and started shooting head shots, alternating between my typical style and the thumb over. Initial results were good and I found I was able to hold the dot on the top of the head more consistently with the thumb over.

That settled it for me and I'm going to give it an honest go for awhile. If I end up going back at least I can speak from an educated position on it. This presented a few small issues for me in how I had my rifle configured. Mainly, the pressure pad I used to run in the 10 o'clock position wasn't going to work any longer. I set out to correct that issue and with some slight modifications to the MOE handguard I got that corrected yesterday by mounting the pressure pad in the 4 o'clock position.

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Once I had that straightened out I did some dry fire and handling drills with the rifle. It was too hot to go outside and shoot. The new position seemed to work well enough but I started wondering how the Magpul AFG might feel on there. After work I stopped into Elmore's to check into it. I liked the feel of the AFG with my new, farther forward support hand position but it sat too low on the handguard preventing me from reaching the pressure pad easily. I had an idea so I bought it anyway and brought it home.

After I got home from my 2nd job (which allows me to spend money on things like the Kino upper and Magpul stuff) I took the AFG2 to the belt sander. I completely removed the upper portion which allows the AFG to be attached to a rail. It wouldn't sit quite right due to the placement of the pressure pad so a little more sanding was required for clearance. I put a couple of screw holes through it and stole some hardware from another MOE rail I had laying around and attached the AFG2 to the handguard.

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I ended up with what feels like perfection. I've got a nice trough to place my index finger into and my middle finger falls nicely on the pressure pad. It is a long way from being pretty but it's solid and functional, at least while I'm giving the thumb over approach an honest effort.

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At the moment, the Magpul Koolaid is tasting pretty good.
 
Re: Swimming in the Magpul Koolaid

What's your take on the Larue RISR? Mines been on back order for 3 weeks.

Nice handy work. Looks like a good work gun.
 
Re: Swimming in the Magpul Koolaid

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's your take on the Larue RISR? Mines been on back order for 3 weeks.

Nice handy work. Looks like a good work gun. </div></div>

I like it. Most guys can't get a good sight picture through the irons with it on there but it provides a near identical feel as my sniper rifle so the consistency works for me.

I have short stroked it once or twice while doing malfunction drills and I never did that before adding it. Not necessarily the fault of the RISR as I'm the one who failed to work things properly but it probably wouldn't have happened if it hadn't been on there.
 
Re: Swimming in the Magpul Koolaid

Phylo,

Just a thought, you might try running the pressure switch @ 12 o clock and have it sit just under your thumb, I run mine up there and find it easier to activate the light than down low with having to "squeeze" my fingers. Likewise, had you thought about a low profile handstop as opposed to the AFG? Just sharing some ideas that I have gone to.
 
Re: Swimming in the Magpul Koolaid

Good info... I look forward to receiving mine... I too prefer a cheek weld that's consistent with my long guns.

Thanks again for inside skinny.
 
Re: Swimming in the Magpul Koolaid

I ran a Magpul VFG that I cut to the minimum length on my 10.5" upper and it worked well. It basically allowed me to maintain the same orientation with my support hand as I do while shooting a pistol.

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The MOE handguards have a peak on the top and there was no way to secure the pressure pad up top. I think it's going to work well where it is as I'm utilizing my strong hand to hang on to the weapon and hold it into my shoulder/chest and my support hand remains rather "soft" to guide the muzzle where I want it so I won't have a tendency to inadvertently activate the light.