Suppressors Talk me out of a 30PSS for match rifle

[jonaddis84]

Currently run a 30P-1 on my 6.5CM match rifle, I originally planned to buy the 30PS as soon as they came out, but was semi disappointed in the weight savings over the P-1, so Ive been procrastinating. Now my thought process is this... There is only a handful of guys that shoot cans in matches anyway, so you have to wear plugs no matter what. I like running a can even with the additional weight, if nothing else for the principal behind it. I like the idea of a brake though for a match if they werent so GD annoying.

Enter the 30PSS. Not a huge amount larger than a brake, definitely weighs a bit more, but weighs 8oz less than a P-1. Yeah you arent going to run it without plugs, but you are wearing plugs because of all the jackasses running brakes anyway. You get most of the recoil reduction of a brake, without the noise, and only add 4.4" to the end of the rifle.

I definitely wouldnt go for the PSS if I didnt own any other cans, but I have the P-1 and a 30BA for full suppression if I want that.

 

[ddavis]

The 30PSS weighs about half what this brake weighs:

Heavy Duty 308 Oversized Competition Muzzle Brake 5 8x24 Threaded Weight 20 Oz | eBay

Does that help your decision?

Seriously though, the next suppressor I get will either be the short TT ARK30 or a 30 PSS. It will be used for competition and hunting, where I don't need absolute suppression, for obvious reasons, but length and weight are important.

 

[TimK]

Are these matches where you have to run around with the rifle? If not, weight is your friend.

 

[texag0842]

I went the 30PS route.

Figure its the best of both worlds.

 

[Zak Smith]

The 30PSS will be approx 10 dB louder than a 30P-1 on .308, which will be very, very noticeable.

 

[dvdt]

I'm in the same boat. I just can't quite decide... It's a long wait and another $200 ya know?

One thing I really like about running a can over a brake is you are not forced to dine on a duster sammich. It has been my experience that when running a brake and shooting on a dirt surface, hay bail or heaven forbid a sandy surface that shit flies EVERYWHERE. It's nice to have the can attached so you don't blast shit everywhere.

I do think some of the brakes today reduce recoil better than my 30P-1. I'm curious what recoil reduction is like on a typical SA 6.5 cartridge with a 30PSS.

 

[Nate O.]

Currently run a 30P-1 on my 6.5CM match rifle, I originally planned to buy the 30PS as soon as they came out, but was semi disappointed in the weight savings over the P-1, so Ive been procrastinating. Now my thought process is this... There is only a handful of guys that shoot cans in matches anyway, so you have to wear plugs no matter what. I like running a can even with the additional weight, if nothing else for the principal behind it. I like the idea of a brake though for a match if they werent so GD annoying.

Enter the 30PSS. Not a huge amount larger than a brake, definitely weighs a bit more, but weighs 8oz less than a P-1. Yeah you arent going to run it without plugs, but you are wearing plugs because of all the jackasses running brakes anyway. You get most of the recoil reduction of a brake, without the noise, and only add 4.4" to the end of the rifle.

I definitely wouldnt go for the PSS if I didnt own any other cans, but I have the P-1 and a 30BA for full suppression if I want that.

The difference in length between my current .30 and .223 cans is 2 inches. It doesn't sound like much, but after runnin' the .30 can for a while, then switchin' back to the .223 feels like night and day. I understand what you're saying about the length and weight, but I would not spend that much dough on a can that I still needed to run muffs with. Bottom line to me, a .30 cal can that comes in under 8 inches, weighs as little as the 30PS does and still suppresses that well, is fantastic in my book.

 

[jonaddis84]

Zak, out of curiosity in case I ever get a blk, is the suppression on that cartridge equal between the ps and pss?

All good points in favor of the ps Nate, luckily for me I don't have to worry about a tax stamp and being tied indefinitely to one can, but it is still a lot of money for something that's sole use would be in the few matches I shoot a year.

I'm sure I could probably shoot equally well with 10oz hanging off the end as with 17oz.

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[Zak Smith]

With subs they will be close, with the PSS being just a little louder (not noticeable over action gas noise). With supers, it is noticeably louder.

 

[PRDRIVER]

Guys the 30BAS that I have is noticeably louder than my 30BA model suppressor. It still suppresses great, but it is louder than the longer BA. That being said, I think the 30BAS would be a great choice for a comp rifle or as a good all around 30 caliber suppressor (read this as use on 300 BLK, 6mm - .30 Caliber rounds, for comp use, for hunting use, etc.)

The PSS is a great choice for a subsonic perspective. If used with supersonic ammo, it will be significantly louder than a 30BAS model, which is noticeably louder than a 30BA.

The 30BAS that I have looks great on my 10.5" 300 BLK SBR.

 

[346ci]

I went with the PSS for a 12.5" 6.8 hunting rig, where OAL is very important in the deer stand.

While I know the PSS will be louder than my 30P-1, I can take a shot without ear pro if needed and not blow my ear drums out, plus have a rather short deer busting machine.

 

[Charger442]

The 30BAS that I have looks great on my 10.5" 300 BLK SBR.

i have a regular 30BA on my 8" 300Blk SBR and it looks great too. and with only being 2 inches longer, and 3 ozs heavier, it comes in as same OAL as your setup and the suppression is fantastic.

 

[Rifle Barrel Blanks]

I just got a 30 P'S for my match rifle and I'm glad I went that route instead of the 30pss. I still want it to suppress what I'm doing. It saves 3 inches or so over my 30p. And adds 3 inches or so over the 30pss. So I think it's a good middle ground

 

[PRDRIVER]

I believe these are the lengths for the various models

30P - 9"
30PS - 7"
30PSS - 5"

The 30P is a fantastic performer. The 30PS still suppresses well, but it is noticeably louder than the 30P. I should have a PSS any day and I will let you know how it stacks up against the 30P and 30PS.