Rifle Scopes Tango 6 G2 vs. XRS II?

[Hoyt7mm]

Narrowed down to my search to these 2 scopes and need opinions and pros/cons. My 2 most important criteria are forgiving eyebox and paralax. General comments on glass resolution are also appreciated. For me, color doesn't matter and neither do reticles.
Thanks!

 

[just browsing]

Haven’t had much time behind the XRS II and I own a Tango6, so take this fwiw.

Both have good eye boxes, though I generally felt that the Tango6 was a little more forgiving at higher magnifications. This is not to say the XRS was bad, I just thought the Sig was better.

Parallax adjustment is kind of a wash for me as I have no need to be able to focus down to very short ranges, though I can tell you both shot at 25 yards without issue. The adjustment knobs on both are easy to use and work well regardless of condition. I could see mirage becoming an issue at higher powers on hot days, but this will be the case with any high magnification optic.

Overall glass clarity and resolution, while I felt the XRS was very nice, definitely goes to the Tango6 for me. Even up to 30x, it offers edge to edge clarity and seems to resolve images a little better than the Bushnell. The biggest advantage for the Sig was CA control, as I noticed it heavily when behind the XRS and none at all with the Tango.

I won’t go into much about the turrets and tracking but I can tell you that both systems are tactile and easy to use. The 12 mil rev took a little getting use to on the Sig (not that I ever dial that far with my 6mm), but the locking features and zero stops are both easy to use. Tracking, I can confirm that the Tango does exactly what you ask it to and then returns to zero without issue. The XRS seemed fine, though I need to get more time behind one to really say how it does.

Overall, both are very nice optics and do well on any precision rig. I do think the Bushnell kinda shoots themselves in the foot with ‘competing brands’ in a sense, as it sounds like the DMR II Pro that will be coming out this summer has even better glass than the XRS. May just be something to consider as far as resale values are concerned.

 

[longshot2000]

I think the Tango 6 has a slight lead. I would also look at the 5Xi from Steiner.

 

[R_Swanson]

Can anyone else shine any light on this comparison? I've read a lot of good stuff about the new XRS II, but havent spent a lot of time researching the Tango 6 lineup yet. I do know that Ilya gave it a good review on his website.

Overall, both are very nice optics and do well on any precision rig. I do think the Bushnell kinda shoots themselves in the foot with ‘competing brands’ in a sense, as it sounds like the DMR II Pro that will be coming out this summer has even better glass than the XRS. May just be something to consider as far as resale values are concerned.

I thought that the DMR II Pro will have the same ED glass as in the XRSII? You heard otherwise?

 

[Aaron47pb]

My understanding its the same ED glass.

 

[Long Range 338]

Same experience as Just Browsing. I've no time with the XRS 2 but have a XRS and its a good scope. I think the Tango 6 is a great scope. I'm a total nerd for their feature set as well.

 

[just browsing]

Can anyone else shine any light on this comparison? I've read a lot of good stuff about the new XRS II, but havent spent a lot of time researching the Tango 6 lineup yet. I do know that Ilya gave it a good review on his website.



I thought that the DMR II Pro will have the same ED glass as in the XRSII? You heard otherwise?

Looks like the Pro will have the same glass as the XRS II. In which case both Bushnells will fall short of the Tango 6 in my eyes.

I kinda look at it like this... the Razor Gen II is basically the gold standard for sub $2k optics at this point. The Bushnells are working their way towards that standard performance-wise, but still fall short of matching a Gen 2. The Tango6 is already there.

Unless you’re able to get the Bushnells for significantly cheaper than a Sig, which, based on some of the prices that I’ve seen on Tango 6s lately makes it quite unlikely, there is no reason to go the Bushnell route.

 

[R_Swanson]

Thanks for the opinions guys. The 4-24 is pretty cheap right now, I think I might jump on it.

Looks like the Pro will have the same glass as the XRS II. In which case both Bushnells will fall short of the Tango 6 in my eyes.

I kinda look at it like this... the Razor Gen II is basically the gold standard for sub $2k optics at this point. The Bushnells are working their way towards that standard performance-wise, but still fall short of matching a Gen 2. The Tango6 is already there.

Unless you’re able to get the Bushnells for significantly cheaper than a Sig, which, based on some of the prices that I’ve seen on Tango 6s lately makes it quite unlikely, there is no reason to go the Bushnell route.

You can get a 4.5-27 Gen 2 for less than 2k? Or are you referring to the 3-18?

 

[Nathan11B]

I’m an XRS II owner and love it, got a heckuva deal on it. Shot a friends Tango 6 and it’s nice, you won’t go wrong, the reticle is nice. I like the center-dot in the reticle. Can’t go wrong with either one.

 

[R_Swanson]

I’m an XRS II owner and love it, got a heckuva deal on it. Shot a friends Tango 6 and it’s nice, you won’t go wrong, the reticle is nice. I like the center-dot in the reticle. Can’t go wrong with either one.

On the two copies you shot, how did the glass compare? Any other opinions?

I can get them for around the same price, so thats not really a factor right now.

 

[Aaron47pb]

I’ve had two XRS IIs for a couple months. I can best compare them to the gen 2 Razor, having shot one for the past 4 years and still owning two of them. So I’ve done quite a bit side-by-side between the XRS II and the g2 Razor.

I’m planning on doing a write up, but I’ll just brief my take so far.

The XRS II was a challenge to get set up properly compared to other high end scopes I’ve onwed. The eye relief is quite long and I had to add a spacer to extend my LoP to get it right. Then I could go through 3/4 of the diopter range without the reticle losing focus. The image initially wasn’t clear, because I didn’t have the right diopter setting. And my hypothesis is this is actually the source of most people’s initial criticism of he XRS II glass. I’m guessing they don’t have it set up correctly. Especially the people who just looked through someone else’s or a demo.

I say this because after getting the diopter set up correctly, which I was finally able to do looking at the moon and adjusting it until the image resolved, the clarity exploded. At the same magnification, I don’t think it gives anything up to the g2 Razor.

What it does lose to the Razor on is the eye box. It’s just not as forgiving as the Razor. Probably has to do with the smaller objective (50mm vs 56mm).

Other than that, it’s just the feature sets, where everyone will have a different preference. I actually prefer the Bushnell zero mechanism and zero stop over the Razor. I also prefer the non-locking elevation turret. Oh and it was nice to shave 10 oz off...

I know you’re comparing the Tango 6, but thought some of this might be helpful.

 

[R_Swanson]

I’ve had two XRS IIs for a couple months. I can best compare them to the gen 2 Razor, having shot one for the past 4 years and still owning two of them. So I’ve done quite a bit side-by-side between the XRS II and the g2 Razor.

I’m planning on doing a write up, but I’ll just brief my take so far.

The XRS II was a challenge to get set up properly compared to other high end scopes I’ve onwed. The eye relief is quite long and I had to add a spacer to extend my LoP to get it right. Then I could go through 3/4 of the diopter range without the reticle losing focus. The image initially wasn’t clear, because I didn’t have the right diopter setting. And my hypothesis is this is actually the source of most people’s initial criticism of he XRS II glass. I’m guessing they don’t have it set up correctly. Especially the people who just looked through someone else’s or a demo.

I say this because after getting the diopter set up correctly, which I was finally able to do looking at the moon and adjusting it until the image resolved, the clarity exploded. At the same magnification, I don’t think it gives anything up to the g2 Razor.

What it does lose to the Razor on is the eye box. It’s just not as forgiving as the Razor. Probably has to do with the smaller objective (50mm vs 56mm).

Other than that, it’s just the feature sets, where everyone will have a different preference. I actually prefer the Bushnell zero mechanism and zero stop over the Razor. I also prefer the non-locking elevation turret. Oh and it was nice to shave 10 oz off...

I know you’re comparing the Tango 6, but thought some of this might be helpful.

Any info helps, thank you Aaron. Thats actually a concern of mine... I already have a long LOP as I am pretty tall and lanky, so I am not sure I have a lot of LOP left to extend out, haha.

I had been planning on a XRSII (or DMR Pro) for a couple months now, but I like the DEV-L reticle (kinda splits a Horus and G3) and I am a little concerned about getting the eyebox setup correctly on the XRSII.

 

[Aaron47pb]

Any info helps, thank you Aaron. Thats actually a concern of mine... I already have a long LOP as I am pretty tall and lanky, so I am not sure I have a lot of LOP left to extend out, haha.

I had been planning on a XRSII (or DMR Pro) for a couple months now, but I like the DEV-L reticle (kinda splits a Horus and G3) and I am a little concerned about getting the eyebox setup correctly on the XRSII.

Yeah I’m 6’ 3” and pretty lanky and I’ve always had to mount my scopes farther forward than most people. For the XRS II, I just had to use the last LoP spacer that came with my AI. So nothing crazy.

 

[strk3]

i shoot the tango 6 on the tikka 6.5 platform and personelly can not find a better scope for the money- sure i was a little worried with it being fairly new but a thousand rds later it returns to zero and performs flawless- we are now shooting in 90 degree heat and very high humity

 

[whatsupdoc]

I have an XRSII, now you have me thinking about my diopter setting. Here is what I know.
I tested the tracking to 10 mils it tracked perfectly.
The reticle on the non-illuminated model has a thinner crosshair in the center.
The turret adjustments are good, the clicks are positive but there is some controlled play in the turret.
When the turret comes to a stop you can wiggle it left and right a tiny amount, it is not loose, feels like a rubber damper between the knob and mechanism. Zero stop works fine.
Zoom rotation is a nice compromise between easy and tight.
I compared it side by side to my Steiner M525 the Steiner seems to resolve slightly better. Tried to take pictures with my cellphone but could not get it to focus properly.

I have used it out to 1000 yards and picking up hits on steel was no problem.

 

[R_Swanson]

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I don't think I can go wrong with either option.

I am leaning towards the Sig, mostly for the reticle.