Wut ?
The thought of an 800 Volt DC Bolted Fault makes your upper lip sweaty ?
weenie........
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The thought of an 800 Volt DC Bolted Fault makes your upper lip sweaty ?
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Maybe in 10-15 years, I’ll see what it looks like. If I want to play with it now, I’ll convert my 66 bug to electric. Couple of companies make kits for it, or used to anyway
Not as sweaty as the thought taking at hit with a 6.5 Creedmoor…Wut ?
The thought of an 800 Volt DC Bolted Fault makes your upper lip sweaty ?
weenie........
How Much Electricity Does it Take to Charge a Tesla? | Optiwatt
Electric vehicle owners can save around $632 per year by charging their electric vehicle compared to paying at the pump.
getoptiwatt.com Ok, so I’m doing a little research to see what makes sense from a solar panel perspective. A coworker of mine just got a bank of panels installed and he completed his first month of output. Summer in northern Illinois got him 1700Kwh. According to the link I provided, they’re saying 3 to 4Kwh per mile for the standard Tesla driving moderately in normal temperatures. By these estimates, his $25k solar panel array will “give” him 400-450 “free” miles a month for his $55k car. Do these figures sounds correct?
That would probably be way more enjoyable than buying anything new.
Plus having built it yourself, if anything goes wrong you know what parts to rip out and replace.
If you find yourself with spare time and money, you should give it a try and video it all, you might even be able to make a bit of money with monetized videos on Youtube of your build progress.
That's the kind of stuff folks really like watching as it's fun, original and interesting.
How Much Electricity Does it Take to Charge a Tesla? | Optiwatt
Electric vehicle owners can save around $632 per year by charging their electric vehicle compared to paying at the pump.
Ok, so I’m doing a little research to see what makes sense from a solar panel perspective. A coworker of mine just got a bank of panels installed and he completed his first month of output. Summer in northern Illinois got him 1700Kwh. According to the link I provided, they’re saying 3 to 4Kwh per mile for the standard Tesla driving moderately in normal temperatures. By these estimates, his $25k solar panel array will “give” him 400-450 “free” miles a month for his $55k car. Do these figures sounds correct?
I think you have the numbers backwards
Their Tesla should be getting about 4 miles per KWh
I drive a big rectangle box and 1700 KWh would get me about 4500 miles, so they should get closer to 7000 miles
(I get 2.6 miles to 3 miles per KWh depending on my driving style and if I draft a truck or not), for a commute mix of 66% highway 33% city.
That being said there is a bit of a conversion loss when charging the vehicle so the numbers may vary.
Yes, I screwed that up. I’m not for or against the idea, just trying to run the numbers to do a real world cost analysis. I got real familiar with KWhs last winter so we were spitballing. To keep my new 36x44 garage at 48 degrees with heavy insulation/radiant floor heat/new 100% efficient electric boiler, I peaked at 3,200KWh for the month of February. I can’t imagine the numbers for a house running 68 degrees and having the clothes dryer and oven on electric as well.
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Will definitely give it some thought. I’d have to at least document the whole process for my sake. Making some extra cash from it would be a good bonus.
Will definitely give it some thought. I’d have to at least document the whole process for my sake. Making some extra cash from it would be a good bonus.
You must have had a pretty cold winter.
Here the winters are usually not so cold that you can't use a heat pump.
Running a Heat Pump (your AC in reverse) saves a lot of money on the heating bills.
Burning natural gas to charge a car battery.... Perhaps, use the battery charger to heat your house....
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It's an electrical fire plus organic combustibles. It's not rocket science how to put that shit out. In the USN we dealt with 4180V AC power mains.
First-time EV owner shares ‘cautionary tale’ after it took 15 hours to drive 178 miles
Colorado electric vehicle owner Alan O'Hashi says he was "rudely awakened" by his car's slow charging speed and warns drivers are going into purchasing EVs "a bit blindly."
www.foxbusiness.com If the EV is so much more economical......
The Emporia Level 2 EV charger also has some fancy features. It’s Energy Star-rated, so it could consume up to 40% less energy when in standby mode. A nifty phone app allows an Ev owner to take advantage of off-peak electricity pricing by scheduling charging.
Why is there so much advertising about all of the energy saving features of this charger ?
Am I missing some sort of hokus pokus about charging a battery ?
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The Emporia Level 2 EV charger also has some fancy features. It’s Energy Star-rated, so it could consume up to 40% less energy when in standby mode. A nifty phone app allows an Ev owner to take advantage of off-peak electricity pricing by scheduling charging.
Why is there so much advertising about all of the energy saving features of this charger ?
Am I missing some sort of hokus pokus about charging a battery ?
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A new Level 2 Home EV charger from a company in Colorado looks to offer a lot of features for the dollar.
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Receptacles are rated for their max current capacity. Buy UL listed devices and you can run them all day every day.
They do wear out, but that's generally from corrosion and loss of tension on the receptacle side from constant plugging and unplugging.
Of course, some people look at me like I'm crazy when I tell them the reason their cords fall out of the 15A receps across their house is because they're worn out. They can't fathom that they're worn out if they'll still work a little bit.
That's actually not exactly straightforwardly correct.
The ratings on plugs and connectors generally are NOT rated for continuous load at their advertised number, that's the intermittent or short term load number.
The electrical codes require that you derate by 20% for sustained continuous load.
You'd have a heart attack if you knew how many 50A Cali connectors I have running 65A heaters 24/7 all winter on 70A breakers.
It is correct to de-rate to 80% for continuous loads. Completely out of my control when it's a receptacle and not a hardwired, so I assume the customers abuse them regularly.
By 2027, for an EV to be tax-credit eligible in the US, 80% of the market value of critical minerals in its battery must be extracted or processed domestically or by US free-trade partners (FTPs), Northwestern University researchers say.
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America’s timeline for development of domestic battery metal supply chain may be unrealistic – research
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The day will come, in the not too distant future, that Tesla owners will universally feel a great deal of regret for their purchase. So… enjoy it while it lasts.
And they shoot moa too.
Why? Are you all embracing the EV BS?
Because it can not financially "stand alone" and support it's own industry. The entire Go Green arena is is supported by "other's".
A wind turbine never produces enough energy to offset the cost of energy to build and install it.
EV batteries lack repairability leading some insurers to junk whole cars after even minor collisions
Some insurers are forced to scrap whole electric vehicles if their batteries are scratched or slightly damaged as they lack repairability and cost as much as 50% of the total vehicle.
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Exactly. So why in the hell are some in this thread wanting to put in infrastructure to their house for this nonsense? Your catering to them.Because it can not financially "stand alone" and support it's own industry. The entire Go Green arena is is supported by "other's".
A wind turbine never produces enough energy to offset the cost of energy to build and install it.
EV batteries lack repairability leading some insurers to junk whole cars after even minor collisions
Some insurers are forced to scrap whole electric vehicles if their batteries are scratched or slightly damaged as they lack repairability and cost as much as 50% of the total vehicle.
Honestly, that is a good question.
Historically when I am presented with a good question with no answers I fall back to my standard reply.. "Follow the Money".
Because they are triple vaxed ?
My bad, I meant to say, you’re, not your. Either way, it’s still catering to them...
But you would be saving the planet….
Ah hahhahaha…
Fashion statements cost money, pure and simple. EV’s are the 2020 version of Rolex Daytona, Gucci bag, Armani suit and a BMW 7-series. All those cost plenty to make a statement 35 years ago.
Bummer about the radiant floor… those generally are really good!
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Focus: EV charger makers brace for slowdown as new Made In America rules kick in
Manufacturers and operators of electric vehicle chargers in the United States are bracing for a slowdown in production and deployment as they scramble to comply with "Made in America" terms of a $7.5 billion federal program meant to accelerate the industry.
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I think for the floor it really depends on where you are, I really don't understand it at all. I know a guy up in Montana and he has his hanger heated with "hot water running through his floor". And it is nice. When I was building my small shop I had it in the budget to do that as well, but was talked out of it. They said the ground here is very cold and that thing will be running 24x7 just to keep up. The electric bill will be insane. But what about...... I am just telling you what I have seen. Ok.
I ended up not doing it and I second guess myself every day it is cold out there. The concrete just soaks up the cold and moves it into your feet making you cold. Does not matter what boots you have your feet get cold. You can be fine outside standing in the snow, but on that floor in 5 minutes your feet are freezing.
I also thought about doing it in the bathroom (with electric) when I redid the floor in there. Again scared away by the electric costs.
Focus: EV charger makers brace for slowdown as new Made In America rules kick in
Manufacturers and operators of electric vehicle chargers in the United States are bracing for a slowdown in production and deployment as they scramble to comply with "Made in America" terms of a $7.5 billion federal program meant to accelerate the industry.
Does fast charging decrease battery life?
I think in SOME instances it will work. Back when the wife and I lived in town she worked roughly 1 mile from the house. An electric car would work fine for her. I worked about 10 miles from home. If my job did not have me driving all over the state of MO and KS every day it would have worked there as well. In some places it would work. I even thought about getting one of those little "triangle" battery cars from the 70's and fixing it up, I think it would be fun.
But it is not the answer to all questions, and it is NOT good for the planet. I would make a case it is far WORSE for the planet with the mining and child labor required to get all the little components for your electric car.
Reminds me of Hollyweard types flying to some south american shit hole to stop building a dam because it will ruin the planet. Too bad it would also give the people within thousands of square miles good quality water and power. It gets stopped, and they hop on their jets that burn 500 gal of jet fuel per hour and drink their bottle water on the way back to CA, all while the people they just left die of dysentery. They do care so much.
This was the little car I wanted to find and fix up. I think it would have been fun.
It is also "hard" on the battery. You are basically pumping into it faster, makes heat heat is as bad as cold. The only time I have had a lipo fire is during charging.
Walking or cycling would be best for those scenarios, kind of like a lot of the Europeans do.
Just to update my energy situation…. I’m currently running my new propane boiler from November and haven’t used all of the extra 400 gallons I added to my contract. So even with the Biden market increasing propane costs ($2.00/gal), I got 5 months of heating at a higher temp compared to 2 months of electric heating at an 8 degree lower temp. Yay electric!
Jeremy is awesome. Clarkson's farm has been fun as hell to watch. Everything he does is entertaining.
Won't be a problem for me, cause I ain't buying a battery car or truck.
Not here. Even in a "good" area and changing your shoes to something comfortable vs what women usually wear. Business casual does not lend itself to walking to work a mile away when it is 98F outside and 98% humidity. And it is that way about three months out of the year. Then there is rain, snow.......did I mention it was up hill.....both ways.
They saw an opportunity and took a risk...
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This Black-owned startup is fixing and learning from broken EV charging stations
Kameale Terry founded ChargerHelp! barely three years ago and says the company is now servicing electric vehicle charging stations across 17 states.
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When I was 10 YO I walked 3 miles one way to buy a box of Wildcats for my single-shot 22 bolt gun. For some reason summer didn't seem as hot and the walk didn't seem very long. Maybe AC has made me weak?
But, hey, it was 60 years ago and my memory ain't what it used to be.
Mom grew up in the country. They piped in sunshine, chopped cotton with a hoe, wore dresses made from flour sacks and walked 5 miles to school every day rain, shine, sleet or snow. But, luckily for her, they did get three weeks off every fall to pick the cotton by hand.
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