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See the contestI can't remember exact was either the Ruger or a Savage 6.5.....sighted one of those in for a guy on the hunting lease about 5 years ago. Some combo from a budget big box store deal with a whatever 3-9 on it. I will never forget it was blown away as I hadn't shot a 6.5 yet. American Hunter soft point 3 shot group was well under 1". Bolt face looked like a beaver had chewed on it and a trigger as smooth as pea gravel under your feet. Sub $500. Thinking it was the Ruger b/c I bought a RPR 6.5 a few years later.Ruger American 6.5 creed. Got it as a budget hunting rifle for my little brother and that thing hammers. Not pretty, a little rough around the edges, but it’s accurate with factory ammo