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Thinking of getting a progressive, and getting a Dillon

FjallJager

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    I want to start loading progressive. I am can't commit to the time investment anymore to load single stage.

    What system would you get (specific models would be good to read about) for 300 Win, 6.5 Creed, 22-250, 308 and 223.

    I'd like to build this where I can downsize my time suck, by quite a bit.

    Is there something I can get where I can set it up where I don't have to spend hours setting up for a different caliber?

    Like a head change system?
     
    Dillon 550 likely what you’re looking for…. A bit more manual control, probably better for dumping powder measured with a scale or dispenser.

    Have a pair of 650’s here, started out loading mostly pistol ammo (more rounds per hour) and added rifle later. Grendel, Blackout, Creedmoor, 223, 308 with a dual toolhead set up for each rifle caliber. One to decap and size. One to load. I process brass in big batches (and at a higher cyclical rate) and load in smaller batches.
     
    I want to start loading progressive. I am can't commit to the time investment anymore to load single stage.

    What system would you get (specific models would be good to read about) for 300 Win, 6.5 Creed, 22-250, 308 and 223.

    I'd like to build this where I can downsize my time suck, by quite a bit.

    Is there something I can get where I can set it up where I don't have to spend hours setting up for a different caliber?

    Like a head change system?
    Was in the same boat as you loading everything on single stage presses until I got my 750. Now 556 ammo is loaded in batches of 200-300 rounds in a couple hours vs several days.

    I just use multiple tool heads for my various loads and changing them out takes like two seconds. If you use different primers (ie switching from small to large rifle or to large pistol) you just need to take off the primer feeder tube and seating bar)

    Get a case feeder if going with the 650/750/1050, etc. Loading cases in the tube yourself is a pain. You will need separate feeder plates for small / large rifle and small / large pistol
     
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    Ok, thank you.

    I spoke to Hornady and RCBS and I didn't feel like I was going to be happy with the end result.

    I have been watching the F- Class John series on youtube and that guy until recently was using a 750 with an automation system.
     
    Was in the same boat as you loading everything on single stage presses until I got my 750. Now 556 ammo is loaded in batches of 200-300 rounds in a couple hours vs several days.

    I just use multiple tool heads for my various loads and changing them out takes like two seconds. If you use different primers (ie switching from small to large rifle or to large pistol) you just need to take off the primer feeder tube and seating bar)

    Get a case feeder if going with the 650/750/1050, etc. Loading cases in the tube yourself is a pain. You will need separate feeder plates for small / large rifle and small / large pistol
    That sounds great.
     
    Dillon 550 for precision rifle and bulk pistol & 5.56. 650/750 if most loading will be pistol and bulk rifle. A little Googling will explain why pretty quickly, I think. The 550 is better for manual steps.
     
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    Ok, thank you.

    I spoke to Hornady and RCBS and I didn't feel like I was going to be happy with the end result.

    I have been watching the F- Class John series on youtube and that guy until recently was using a 750 with an automation system.
    I’d love to get the Autodrive but knowing my luck, as soon as I “set it and forget it”, walk away something would “grenade” and destroy my entire set up, haha.
     
    I’d love to get the Autodrive but knowing my luck, as soon as I “set it and forget it”, walk away something would “grenade” and destroy my entire set up, haha.
    Popped a primer in my very first loading session, daisy chained the whole primer tube. The Dillon primer system contained it all and the only casualty was the plastic follower rod (that launched into the ceiling). Dillon warranty is fantastic…they send me a entire new primer system for my 650.
     
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    Popped a primer in my very first loading session, daisy chained the whole primer tube. The Dillon primer system contained it all and the only casualty was the plastic follower rod (that launched into the ceiling). Dillon warranty is fantastic…they send me a entire new primer system for my 650.
    Did that happen with the Autodrive?

    And yep, Dillon does a great job supporting/standing behind their stuff.
     
    I'd pick the 550 for sure. Add a powder dispenser like the charge master, or something similar, and you can load precision stuff very fast.

    The dillon powder thrower does a good job btw, I just use the chargemaster for ugly shape powders like varget.

    The 550 makes it easy, cost effective, and pretty quick to change calibers. No complaints at all!
     
    I load pistol on a 650 and bulk 223 on my 1050. The 550 that I have had for 30 years is used for precision rifle rounds.

    The 650 and 1050 are great presses but the setup time is much longer. I have a Lee Powder Thru die with a funnel on the 550, the powder measuring is off press for accuracy, and just dump it manually.
     
    Another 550B here. As mentioned, it's manual indexing so easier to break up your operations if desired.

    Inline Fabrication makes some nice widgetry too.
    550B here, too. I think 15 years of reloads? Maybe only 13 years…..But for 6.5CM, i measure powder charges by hand. I’ve loaded thousands of 5.56, 9mm Para, 5.7x28, .45ACP, .32ACP, .44 mag, .357 mag & even .308–but it was volume, not quality. It’s a damn good system. Spent the cash for 1 tool head/caliber and “set it & forget it….” (RIP, Ron Popiel). I keep one spare tool head that’s used for the odd balls, like .380, .30 Carbine, 7,62 x39 Rooskie. Dillon makes supports to rest the tool head, dies, powder reservoir seater & crimper. I keep them in my closed reloading cabinet to prevent dust buildup.

    i just received an RCBS ChargeMaster to try & improve time spent on my RockChucker for 6.5CM precision. Stay tuned.
     
    550 will do what you want but it won’t be cheap, especially if you are loading large and small primer rounds. First it takes two, one set up for large primers, one set up for small primers. The most significant issue with 550’s is changing out the primer feed. Not impossible or terribly difficult but it takes time and takes care.

    So, no we have two 550’s each mounted on a hard mount. (The hard mount puts the press towards the middle of the bench. Less stress on the bench and less stress on the user. ). Next we need a tool head for each round. This keeps everything set and ready to use. If using the Dillon Powder throw, each tool head needs to have its dedicated powder throw. A significant investment In cost but a major, major time saver.

    So, now the good part. If the case holder is the same, as in the 6.5CM the 308 and the 22-250, alls one has to do is put the appropriate tool head on the press and you are ready to load. Takes about 20 seconds. If a fellow has to change out the case holder plate and buttons, this adds about 2 minutes. Just make sure you don’t loose the buttons. Nothing could be easier. (Don’t forget the tool head holders. Keeps em neat and in place.

    For a dedicated press, I really like our son’s 650 that he uses for 9mm. If .223 is the only small primer round you are going to load and it is primarily for you, a gas gun, than a dedicated 750 would be the pick rather than an additional 550. Of course if the .223 is going in multiple rifles or a prs style rifle than the 550 would be my choice.

    So the cost of two 550’s or possibly a 550 and a 750 plus all the additions needed is going to be an investment. However, after 20+ years of loading with 550’s, loading everything from 9mm up including multiple wildcat calibers for handgun silhouette, I can say that once you’ve spent the money your good to go for the rest of your shooting career.
     
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    -Inline Fab mounts and primer tube brackets are awesome
    -Spent primer upgrade from entirelycrimson drops depend primers down tubing to bottom shelf for collection
    -Arredondo, Uniquetek, and others make powder measure upgrades
    -I have thrust bearing upgrades, but am ambivalent about how much improvement they offer
    -You can run a Hornady powder dropper on a Dillon machine for stick-type powder (also use a Area 419 funnel in small and test batches).
    -DIY toolhead holders with posts from JoferUSA (also additional tool heads)


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