The true fix is incentive based. If they are treated worse here that where they are from they will not come. It's quite simple. Find the biggest shithole south of the border, make a worse one and put them in it, only out is to go back to shithole #1.
This ain’t good...
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Can this be twisted into an internet hate crime? You better watch your Goose Step Pal.
Not exactly a part of our history that we like to admit, but there were a number of volunteers so angry with the British Raj that they took up arms against them under the aegis of the Heer.
Sikh heil ...
Facts. Remember that video of that "professional" cop that ND'd a Glock into his leg? We could do with having a lot more experience and most importantly, SMARTS of various kinds drilled into people who do sensitive stuff. Crashing/losing drones is akin to a surgeon leaving tools inside a patient's body.
@harleytuner : That was why I was trying to brainstorm all the possible choices we can have to deal with this extremely serious problem. We may be a bunch of usernames talking around a digital bar counter, but everybody on the Web reads stuff, and a lot of things said here, Arfcom, TFL, wherever may be taken into consideration by the good folks in gov't. (Not everybody in DC are dodo-brains. I am sure we got real deal gunnies and other good people looking out)
@thejeep : I rescinded some parts of my original post. The wall, plus hi-tech surveillance, and a whole lot of citizen soldiers and LE all working together. We need to implement that ASAP.
Nothing that funny about it. Sikh desire for independence from the British, and now the Hindustanis, has and will always run strong. It's made for some unfortunately poor decisions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Legion
The problem with the government (and it's agencies) isn't the people per se, it's the policies and process that hose most stuff up.
Well, that shit was happening all over.
Though most of the country resisted there was a Danish Nazi Party and even a Danish SS unit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Corps_Denmark. Sort of same/same. They were reviled at the time, and certainly afterwards, but there you go...
Though most of the country resisted there was a Danish Nazi Party and even a Danish SS unit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Corps_Denmark. Sort of same/same. They were reviled at the time, and certainly afterwards, but there you go...
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And yes, I'm sitting here developing a nervous tic looking at "caper" misspelled, thank you very much.
The left continues to harp on tech solutions to border security. Of course they do, the industry as a whole are some of their biggest donors right now, and are all based at the nexus of their leftist constituency hives. I don't buy it for a second, and I know a thing or twenty four years about securing shit from invaders. Physical barriers always work to a high degree and are always the most cost effective solution for your baseline security plan.
Follow the money, the left is simply trying to get their coffers filled by awarding multi-billion dollar contracts to their funders.
Follow the money, the left is simply trying to get their coffers filled by awarding multi-billion dollar contracts to their funders.
Nevermind that those tech solutions are one election away from being turned off.
"Walls don't work"
Us prison population in 2003 ~2,300,000
Us prison escapes in 2003 -2,001
...wait a minute
Us prison population in 2003 ~2,300,000
Us prison escapes in 2003 -2,001
...wait a minute
It worked out great for them until the US convinced them to take down their highly effective wall. A more valid question would be how did it work out for West Germany when being flooded overnight with poor people crashed their economy for a decade.
ummmmm.............
2,001/2,3000,000 = .087%.
Looks like it works pretty damn well to me.
ummmmm.............
2,001/2,3000,000 = .087%.
Looks like it works pretty damn well to me.
OK, did I miss the sarcasm bus ?........
Yup, next one shows in 20 minutes though.
Veer, I have to say that you're being quite mercurial with your addition of the fulminating response. I see that its grandeur is explosive.
With paella's AND putanesca's.
Oh, how did I ever miss this?
Easily?
Particularly with so many big words......
... and misplaced apostrophes. Does anybody speak Canadian so that they can explain this to him?
Est-ce qu'elle prepare des sandwiches, peut-être?
If we're going to be properly Canadian, let's not forget the rest of them ... eh?
Walls don't have ridiculous maintenance contracts and firmware upgrade fees, either. There just isn't enough pork in them for the Dems.
Agreed, Dems are all about the pork.
Mainly porking their constituents to fill their coin purse.
R
the dems are loosing sight of the trees while looking at the forest.
im all for sensor and electronics (contracts or not). the issue is that its truly a numbers game.
these really cool sensors alert the patrols that "X" number of illegals are walking toward or across the boarder.
perfect, the over priced sensor do their job as advertised.
thats where the dems brain stops...
once there is 1 more illegal than the ability of the patrols to apprehend or turn back...that one gets through.
common sense says the illegals prod the boarder until that number is found and then they just make groups larger....
sooner of later they will get through
thats why the dumb fucks need a wall.
1. Korean war, the chinese knew how many rounds the us military gave each man, they knew platoon or company strength in that area...
human wave attacks...not enough ammo...over run positions.
2. naval war games about 10-15 years ago.
the "adversary side" knew carrier groups anti missile capability/capacity, i think it was like 150 or something like that.
the adversary fired 250 cruise/anti ship missiles and destroyed the carrier etc..
they reset the war games to not allow a mass volley of missiles again
its really not that hard to over run a position if there are no physical deterrents and if you dont care about the boots on the ground
which by the way, the traffickers dont care at all.
im all for sensor and electronics (contracts or not). the issue is that its truly a numbers game.
these really cool sensors alert the patrols that "X" number of illegals are walking toward or across the boarder.
perfect, the over priced sensor do their job as advertised.
thats where the dems brain stops...
once there is 1 more illegal than the ability of the patrols to apprehend or turn back...that one gets through.
common sense says the illegals prod the boarder until that number is found and then they just make groups larger....
sooner of later they will get through
thats why the dumb fucks need a wall.
1. Korean war, the chinese knew how many rounds the us military gave each man, they knew platoon or company strength in that area...
human wave attacks...not enough ammo...over run positions.
2. naval war games about 10-15 years ago.
the "adversary side" knew carrier groups anti missile capability/capacity, i think it was like 150 or something like that.
the adversary fired 250 cruise/anti ship missiles and destroyed the carrier etc..
they reset the war games to not allow a mass volley of missiles again
its really not that hard to over run a position if there are no physical deterrents and if you dont care about the boots on the ground
which by the way, the traffickers dont care at all.
As someone above pointed out, dems dont want a wall exactly because it will work, at least as a good foundation for a security plan. I personally just think the dems are scared they will run out of children to buy and molest.
Noted, better that way.
FYI, folks, my reference to the Berlin Wall was a reverse psychology tactic to prove a point.
The East German wall did work. So should ours.
IMHO, all of the excuses claiming it wouldn't work were tried there, only a very few worked, and only on a small scale. FWIW, the technology to defeat such attempts has also improved quite a bit in the interim, too.
While I'm no fan of the East Germans, when the wall goes up, it will simply prove a repeated success of what they did, and that's not so terrible a comparison. In other matters, they were monsters.
Moreover, the Left has hung its hat and its reputation on aborting the wall's creation, yet another example of their love of abortion.
It's all going to crush them in the end.
Seen from the other end, should Trump renege on the wall, the Left's stance will (has) set them up to be the fall guys for every crime that involves an illegal border crossing. He can wash his hands and drop the consequences in their collective lap.
They are complicit in very trace of evil that results from illegal border crossings. For them, it's just a better depiction of who they actually are; domestic enemies of our Constitution, and the people our Constitution protects.
Their leaders should be indicted for Treason (for consorting with foreign globalist agents, like Soros), as well as being accomplices before and after the fact in all crimes involving illegal aliens, especially voter fraud.
I could get behind that, too.
Greg
FYI, folks, my reference to the Berlin Wall was a reverse psychology tactic to prove a point.
The East German wall did work. So should ours.
IMHO, all of the excuses claiming it wouldn't work were tried there, only a very few worked, and only on a small scale. FWIW, the technology to defeat such attempts has also improved quite a bit in the interim, too.
While I'm no fan of the East Germans, when the wall goes up, it will simply prove a repeated success of what they did, and that's not so terrible a comparison. In other matters, they were monsters.
Moreover, the Left has hung its hat and its reputation on aborting the wall's creation, yet another example of their love of abortion.
It's all going to crush them in the end.
Seen from the other end, should Trump renege on the wall, the Left's stance will (has) set them up to be the fall guys for every crime that involves an illegal border crossing. He can wash his hands and drop the consequences in their collective lap.
They are complicit in very trace of evil that results from illegal border crossings. For them, it's just a better depiction of who they actually are; domestic enemies of our Constitution, and the people our Constitution protects.
Their leaders should be indicted for Treason (for consorting with foreign globalist agents, like Soros), as well as being accomplices before and after the fact in all crimes involving illegal aliens, especially voter fraud.
I could get behind that, too.
Greg
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thats actually not really true anymore:
if you are paying off the book cash....yes
if you have a illegal on the books (half legal, or over stay visa/ legal at one time), you have to pay them minimum wage...believe me i know...
the amount of cabbage pickers that live in tin shanties is a drop in the bucket, numbers wise.
a huge company around the corner 2300 employees about 220 million in sales (makes bottles of generic tylenol and vit c etc) had to let go 900-1000 employees last year that had immigration issues. weather it was overstay visa, flat out illegal etc.
they paid a huge fine and all the legal stuff as well but;
thats one company who has HR departments and part of the shop was union as well.
and the only reason they got "caught" was that one lady got fired from hr and ratted them out, told the feds where every folder and file they needed was.
everyone thinks its the dishwasher or landscaper being taken advantage of by the rich american...not even close.
i have guys who are legally here that get paid 13-14$ a hour, that leave my place to go landscape.
they all wait at certain corners and get picked up in the morning as day workers. $100 a day cash.
some guys get less or more depending on the ability. rake, mower, trimmer, etc
they tell me they dont want to quit but they make more money mowing lawns then working for me.
ill hire some back if they were strait with me off the bat.
real numbers from california 2007:
from the Public Policy Institute of California
"Only about 40,000 people are either employed as day laborers or looking for day labor jobs on any given day in California. That is just 3 percent of the total estimated undocumented male workforce in the state – and only 0.2 percent of the entire state workforce.
Also surprising is that day laborers earn substantially more than minimum wage: an average of $11.32 per hour."
dont get caught by the fake shit the media puts out, numbers are numbers.
no one is getting whipped, or being grossly taken advantage except for you and me paying taxes every day.
Yes, this.
If you are going to taunt Canadiens (yes, I said "Canadiens"), then you must use the proper spelling and pronunciation of the word "EH".
Actually, I worked in the lower mainland of B.C. for 5 years and absolutely loved it. Better than the NW of WA state/US. Great people. Proud, but humble.
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