Rifle Scopes Thoughts on a Leupold Mark 8 1.1-8 M-TMR
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What are you actually planning on using it for on your ECC would be a start..... Do you really need 1xish on the bottom?? Do your really need 20x on the top?? Your two choices appear diametrically opposed. Applications should drive equipment, not the other way around.
Or do you just want to WOW guys at the range? In that case spending as much money as you can, will give you that necessary WOW factor, and impress the hell out of the locals.
Or do you just want to WOW guys at the range? In that case spending as much money as you can, will give you that necessary WOW factor, and impress the hell out of the locals.
LL did a review on it prior to release some time ago. He seemed impressed with it. Should be here in the hide somewhere. Jeff. Buyin one for an SPR
On an ECC/EMC, my 1st pick would be a MK8. Having said that, I put a MK6 3-18 on my EMC.
Get the MK8 w Horus, the MK6 wTMR.
In a perfect world, get BOTH, use a Bobro/GDI/Alamo mount and switch them out!
But, now you are talking > $6k in glass alone…
Again, will you really use 1X that much, and will you use > 8X that much?
If you do go MK8, remember the Horus.
Get the MK8 w Horus, the MK6 wTMR.
In a perfect world, get BOTH, use a Bobro/GDI/Alamo mount and switch them out!
But, now you are talking > $6k in glass alone…
Again, will you really use 1X that much, and will you use > 8X that much?
If you do go MK8, remember the Horus.
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What Bob said. Application drives requirements.
I have both of the scopes you're considering, the Mark 8 on a 16" .308 AR and the 3-20x PMII on a 26" .260 GAP. Both are excellent in their specific applications. While I wish my M-TMR version had the dot type illumination the Horus has, I have no problem whatsoever using it without and that $500 I saved bought a lot of ball ammo for training. When on 1x you have a very well defined broken "T" reticle, illuminated even for when you're in the shadows, and maybe it's because I came up on iron sights for MOUT but I am running very fast with it. Of course I'm a Horus hater, so take that for what it's worth.
I have both of the scopes you're considering, the Mark 8 on a 16" .308 AR and the 3-20x PMII on a 26" .260 GAP. Both are excellent in their specific applications. While I wish my M-TMR version had the dot type illumination the Horus has, I have no problem whatsoever using it without and that $500 I saved bought a lot of ball ammo for training. When on 1x you have a very well defined broken "T" reticle, illuminated even for when you're in the shadows, and maybe it's because I came up on iron sights for MOUT but I am running very fast with it. Of course I'm a Horus hater, so take that for what it's worth.
I had both the Mk6 3-18 H58 and the Mk8 1.1-8 H27D in hand for my SR25 ER and went with the MK8. While I would have liked the extra magnification, its not necessary. The weight is the same but the Mk8 has a bit of a slimmer profile and a bit more forgiving eye relief.
On the other end, the MK6 does have the higher mag and larger objective.
You can't really go wrong with either on a 308 gas gun unless you are wanting to shoot out past 1k yards or hit 2 inch targets at 800 or something.
On the other end, the MK6 does have the higher mag and larger objective.
You can't really go wrong with either on a 308 gas gun unless you are wanting to shoot out past 1k yards or hit 2 inch targets at 800 or something.
On my Mark 8, it would be nice to have a day light viewable illuminated reticle, but having a more precise aiming point was more important to me, and the H-27D is not that.
Agree 100%. I'll say if you're looking for accuracy on 8x, go with the M-TMR with the simpler reticle and open center. Speed on 1x, either will do but the balance tips to the H27 simply for the daylight bright circle. It's on the end user to decide how much that dot is worth to them, but I still believe a 3-Gun Nation Pro would be just as fast with either. Training is the key...
I'm an Aimpoint guy, have one on the M4 I carry all day-every day for work, but that doesn't mean I can't do without that dot in the bright desert sun.
That little red doughnut is as fast as a New Orleans whore at 1X… even in FL sunshine.
The Christmas tree underneath, I'd hardly look at. Maybe if it was windy. On a 1-8X, I prob. wouldn't be doing too much knob turning, anyway.
If you look around, the Horus can be had for $3400. (Eurooptic)
Leupold Mark 8 CQBSS Scopes
Redmanss, I'm with you on the daylight visible being a plus.
OP, Good Luck, what ever you do.
The Christmas tree underneath, I'd hardly look at. Maybe if it was windy. On a 1-8X, I prob. wouldn't be doing too much knob turning, anyway.
If you look around, the Horus can be had for $3400. (Eurooptic)
Leupold Mark 8 CQBSS Scopes
Redmanss, I'm with you on the daylight visible being a plus.
OP, Good Luck, what ever you do.
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