Tikka T3 TAC or T3x CTR? (in J Allen chassis)

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I'm looking at buying a Tikka 223 with 24" barrel, solely for precision shooting at the range. I'd prefer the heaviest barrel possible, so that would mean Varmint models or regular TACT model. Regular Varmints are sold out everywhere here (I'm in Europe btw) with up to 6 months for delivery and the Super Varmint would cost me more than the TACT model after muzzle threading and cerakoating, so that only leaves the CTR and TACT in stock.

Is there any added gain in accuracy with the TACT (which is an older T3 model) barrel over the T3x CTR?
Value wise, I don't think the CTR can be beat. But could the heavier TACT barrel have an increased accuracy potential over the CTR in absolute terms? At the end of the day, it's the groups at the range that matter the most to me, not the price/quality ratio. Price difference is around 600€ here, 1200€ vs 1800€.

For those with a Tikka in a J allen chassis, if I'm not mistaken, the CTR mags won't work in the chassis? Will the regular Tikka mags work? Or am I required to buy new mags, regardless of the model I choose?
 

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    I'm looking at buying a Tikka 223 with 24" barrel, solely for precision shooting at the range. I'd prefer the heaviest barrel possible, so that would mean Varmint models or regular TACT model. Regular Varmints are sold out everywhere here (I'm in Europe btw) with up to 6 months for delivery and the Super Varmint would cost me more than the TACT model after muzzle threading and cerakoating, so that only leaves the CTR and TACT in stock.

    Is there any added gain in accuracy with the TACT (which is an older T3 model) barrel over the T3x CTR?
    Value wise, I don't think the CTR can be beat. But could the heavier TACT barrel have an increased accuracy potential over the CTR in absolute terms? At the end of the day, it's the groups at the range that matter the most to me, not the price/quality ratio. Price difference is around 600€ here, 1200€ vs 1800€.

    For those with a Tikka in a J allen chassis, if I'm not mistaken, the CTR mags won't work in the chassis? Will the regular Tikka mags work? Or am I required to buy new mags, regardless of the model I choose?
    BTW thanks for mentioning youre in Europe. You have more options available than we do.

    Don't remember the actual numbers but the contours are very close between the ctr and the varmint. There isn't going to be an accuracy difference between the 2. The only area I've heard of an accuracy difference is between the lite and the others but only on longer strings.

    Does the tact have a heavier barrel than the ctr? Idk. Another benefit of the ctr is it is threaded.

    J allens are AICS magazines. Definitely can't use the lite magazines in them. If you want to use ctr magazines you can use the KRG bravo ctr version.

    Also the jae is currently not being produced. They were bought by mdt and haven't started production up yet AFAIK. @MDT_Josh?
     
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    BTW thanks for mentioning youre in Europe. You have more options available than we do.
    No problem. I figured it might matter.

    Don't remember the actual numbers but the contours are very close between the ctr and the varmint. There isn't going to be an accuracy difference between the 2. The only area I've heard of an accuracy difference is between the lite and the others but only on longer strings.
    Does the tact have a heavier barrel than the ctr? Idk. Another benefit of the ctr is it is threaded.
    Tact does have a heavier barrel compared to CTR. 22mm vs 20mm. It does not sound like much, but if I made my calculations correctly, that's still a bit of difference in mass. Around 10 ounces? And the Tact models are rumored to have the same match grade barrels as the SAKO TRGs.
    The difference in accuracy probably won't be noticeable at first, but only after longer shot strings, like you said. Any idea after how many shots the CTR and TAC A1 start losing accuracy during a session?

    J allens are AICS magazines. Definitely can't use the lite magazines in them. If you want to use ctr magazines you can use the KRG bravo ctr version.
    Also the jae is currently not being produced. They were bought by mdt and haven't started production up yet AFAIK.
    I already have a JAE chassis. Ordered one for rem700 footprint, but was only able to get one for Tikka when they went out of business. It was either a Tikka chassis or none at all. So I guess I'm putting together a tikka 😅
    Thanks for the info on the magazines. Now I know both Tikka mags wont work, I can take that into consideration when choosing which model. I can almost buy a new quality barrel with the money I save on the CTR and selling the standard stock and magazine. CTR is really looking like the best option, indeed.
    The hart says TACT, the mind says CTR. I'll let the wife decide! 😂
     
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    If i could do it all over again id probably go with the mpa chassis. My buddy has one and its amazing.
     

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    Putting a T3X into a chassis kind of defeats the purpose IMO.
    Why?
    BTW Tikka already does it themselves in case you weren't aware. tikka_t3x__t3x-tact-a1__pov__1.png
    Also why should I fight with a light flimsy stock that doesn't fit me? Especially when what I want (left handed and stainless decent weight barrel) isn't even imported into my country. With my Tikka currently I have closer to a freaking chin weld and have to have a sling stud to picatinny adapter to fit my bipod.
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    I see the Tikka as a quality rifle that works great out of the box without breaking the bank that is actually useful without having to change out parts or cut on the action. Especially when it has a great trigger. There's nothing that is broken or needs fixing. You can get a good action for the same price as a custom but also get a stock, accurate barrel, and a good trigger for free.
     

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    My Tikka Super Varmint is great.
    Married with the Vortex Razor scope, it's a great combo.
    I've shot alongside the TAC A1's and CTR's, no real difference
    Roll with whatever suits you.
     

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    varmint is a better profile then ctr

    can you get krg stuff in europe?

    223 varmint in a krg bravo is a poor mans sako trg, ymmv
     

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    The Tac A1 chassis is fantastic. I don't know what people are complaining about.

    TRG mags are better than ACIS in every way anyway.
     

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    To be clear, the JAE chassis is the reason I'm getting a Tikka. Not the other way around.
    So chassis or no chassis is not up for debate! 😅

    Does anyone know of a muzzlebrake that would sit flush on the CTR barrel? Something discrete. I'm not looking for an ostentatious muzzlebrake on a 223. Just something too make the barrel look a bit longer since the JAE chassis seems to have a long forend.