Time for Wile E to meet the ACME .223?

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So I let the dog out last night after dinner to do his business (85 lb German Shephard). It was dark and as usual, I shined the field behind the house for critters that he may want to chase and saw a few deer way out near the tree line (14 acre field). I let him go and he proceeded to his usual spot about 50 yds from the house to go #1 and then move about 25 yds parallel to the house to go #2. Mid #2, his head snaps around so I shine the light and see a coyote looking at him from about 50 yds away from his position. I watched the coyote and he started to trot towards my Shephard. I called my guy and he came back to the house. For the next 5 minutes, I watched the coyote mark both spots where my guy had gone, roll in his #2 and generally sniff and mark the entire area. I stood on the patio watching and at some point yelled at the coyote to get lost. At this point, he started trotting towards me. He stopped about 25 yds out, actually on the lawn and then proceeded to slowly trot parallel to the house and ultimately into the woods, marking a few more spots on the way. He was good sized, almost as big as my Shephard although with a full winter coat, probably looked a lot bigger than it actually was. I hear them occasionally at night when they find a meal but only see them on occasion crossing the field and never close to the house when there is any activity going on. This one was very close to the house, lingered for quite a while and showed no fear of the dog or me and that concerns me. Particularly since I am not the only one that lets the dog out. It could be my wife or kids and he does not listen as well to them. Also, where there's one... I would prefer not to kill the coyote but I also don't want to worry about the dog or family when I'm not home. Shooting isn't an issue as there is nothing but woods behind me for at least a mile and I can't see any of my neighbors. I'd be interested in thoughts on the coyote's behavior and if my concerns are justified? I attached a photo of the back yard. The dog was further out than the deer and the coyote came in from the left.
 

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Gooooood dog!

Weird yote. The ones around here will sniff your ass, literally, take off, and you'll never know they were there. They almost always run away from dogs, unless there's a pack of them.

Not sure what your local game laws are; but as soon as that dirty bastard was creeping on one of my pups in the open, night night Irene.
 

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We have chickens.......our state has pretty productive laws for poultry. I have had to "protect" them from many predators.
 

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I shoot every yodel dog I see, but the problem is, a sighting is as rare as bigfoot. The woods around my farm are full of them at night but they are like ghosts in the day time.
 

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    Huh, shooting forum, animal presenting a threat and he asks if he should shoot it? It would be my prime directive and when i culled that song dog i’d brag about it on here!
     
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    Could be rabies? We had a coyote here in the burbs attack a few walkers/joggers. Cop eventually shot it.
     
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    prob an alpha male. like dogs i am sure they "mark" over another dogs pee,poop to sort of 1 up the other guy and claim superiority. actually had a friend who did that sort of thing when he brought a super aggressive,dominant mal into his home. it was helpful as i remember in showing who's boss and establishing pack rank. shoot him. where there's 1,there's more. rabies could be,doesn't sound like it. luring your GSD? likely. shep might handle 1 but not a pack. odd and unusual fearless behavior for a yote-not good.
     

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    In Nebraska any animal including neighbors dogs that pose a threat to your livestock may be shot on site. Local sheriff told me to shot them, call him and if it's a neighbors dog, he'll escort them over to pick it up even. If it's a wild animal , don't worry about it
     
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    around here, they avoid houses and people like the plague. i have seen 2, exactly 2 in all my years of hunting here.
    went out to california, and the damn things are so brave, they walk down the street and look at you. i yelled and one, and he didnt even jump. my buddy and i watched one sneaking on a homeless dude sleeping in a small park. oh, how i’d have loved to been able to clean house on those california coyotes. anywhere else and lead would have been flying
     

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    I would prefer not to kill the coyote
    hahaha....why, Mike?

    Kill it and yeah, maybe nothing for a mile, but that ain't really all that far depending on what your shooting, right?.

    Maybe a shotgun with buck shot since it was at 50 yds or closer?
     

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    They operate in stealth mode around here as well. I hear them down at the lake 200 yards from the cabin and across the lake but never see them. Then a loyal cat will show up missing, just disappear for no other reason.

    I like hearing them, especially out camping, and forgive them for taking down deer but when they roll in dogshit and go cannibalistic on their dog cousin the pangs of guilt wane somewhat when I shoot one.

    Having said that, I'd never shoot a pregnant female or if she had tits.
     

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    Maybe where your from but here the turkey buzzards are on them before their completely dead……
    True 'dat. I shot a 'yote one morning while hunting in my deer blind and when my gf and I returned to hunt that afternoon the buzzards were fighting over it.
     

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    True 'dat. I shot a 'yote one morning while hunting in my deer blind and when my gf and I returned to hunt that afternoon the buzzards were fighting over it.
    I stand corrected!

    All my life we have seen dogs (road kill) take months to disappear while crows and buzzards would pass them up.

    Curious as to why we had not seen an exception.

    Carry on smartly.
     

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    I stand corrected!

    All my life we have seen dogs (road kill) take months to disappear while crows and buzzards would pass them up.

    Curious as to why we had not seen an exception.

    Carry on smartly.
    Maybe they were on good terms before it died lol.

    OP, shoot it on site laws followed of course. There’s no shortage of coyotes.
     
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    This is Massachusetts, so game and gun laws are strict, but there are provisions for taking an animal that the land owner deems a nuisance. I did some reading last night. At night we're restricted to .22 LR for hunting, assuming that applies to nuisance animals as well. Daytime, no restrictions on caliber. Suppressors are an absolute no no, can't even get a tax stamp. I wouldn't even try with a 22 LR. Fortunately, my town is gun friendly and nobody would even notice or care about a 223 or 308 shot after dark.

    I saw it again this morning at 4:30 when I let the dog out, but only briefly before it jumped into the woods. I said I didn't want to shoot it, not that I wouldn't. Given the feedback on my concerns, I'll kill it next chance I get. Seems odd to stand over watch so my dog can take a shit, lol. And for the record, even thought it's Massachusetts, no man bun here :ROFLMAO:. Thanks for all the feedback.
     

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    Here in Louisiana, coyotes can be killed any time of year, any time of day or night, as long as you have a valid hunting license.

    If he’s comfortable getting that close to you and your dog, that coyote is dangerous, to your dog and your family. If nothing else, he’s bringing disease ridden fleas with him that will get on your dog. Get rid of him.
     

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    This is Massachusetts, so game and gun laws are strict, but there are provisions for taking an animal that the land owner deems a nuisance. I did some reading last night. At night we're restricted to .22 LR for hunting, assuming that applies to nuisance animals as well. Daytime, no restrictions on caliber. Suppressors are an absolute no no, can't even get a tax stamp. I wouldn't even try with a 22 LR. Fortunately, my town is gun friendly and nobody would even notice or care about a 223 or 308 shot after dark.

    I saw it again this morning at 4:30 when I let the dog out, but only briefly before it jumped into the woods. I said I didn't want to shoot it, not that I wouldn't. Given the feedback on my concerns, I'll kill it next chance I get. Seems odd to stand over watch so my dog can take a shit, lol. And for the record, even thought it's Massachusetts, no man bun here :ROFLMAO:. Thanks for all the feedback.
    I would take a second look at the laws distinguishing hunting vs. Self defense from animals. Usually they are two very different things.

    For example: When I was in CA, if I was out for the specific purposes of hunting, I needed lead-free ammo, hunting license, and tag for that specific animal im trying to schwack. Ok, fine. But, if while out hunting in the sticks, and some other animal posed a threat, I could smoke it with my pistol using standard ammo and that was, because self defense.

    Your state might be different, might not. Doesn't hurt to polish up on the legalities of things there shouldn't be suplerfluous laws for... but, here we are.
     
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    I stand corrected!

    All my life we have seen dogs (road kill) take months to disappear while crows and buzzards would pass them up.

    Curious as to why we had not seen an exception.

    Carry on smartly.
    I've seen that on most all kinds of roadkill. A deer will lay on the shoulder and just disintegrate but if it's moved by further away in the grass it becomes a buzzard buffet.
     

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    Fun Fact: You will never see buzzards on a dog/K9 carcass. It will rot and break down right where it sits.


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    Shot one last winter that ran off, found it the next day, his fellow coyotes had eaten part of him alive (judging by the blood, tracks, frozen facial expression and condition of the remains).

    Shot one this past October with bow and arrow, left him out in the open, next day had 2 huge Golden Eagles 🦅 fighting over him. Cool to watch 😎

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    Man that sucks, having your own pack members eat you alive. Hope thats not what happened or it was another rival pack.

    Especially since coyotes packs are made up of blood relatives only. Unlike wolves, they don't allow outsiders. Coyote families are made up of an alpha male and female, or mother and father, and uncles, aunts, sons, daughters.
     

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    When I lived in the boonies we killed coyotes and raccoons on sight.
     

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    When I lived in the boonies we killed coyotes and raccoons on sight.
    I live in the boonies, I'd shoot 'yotes because we have cats and yard deer but we give the 'coons, possums, fox and other varmints a pass.

    Some asshole bought the lakehouse across the road and as soon as he and his Karen wife moved in he began trapping and shooting the local wildlife 'cuz they tear shit up and carry rabies and we just don't want them on the property.' Fuck him. He should move back to whatever city he escaped from.

    Last I heard he's planning on building a fence to keep the neighborhood deer out because 'we just don't want them in the yard.'
     

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    Is he trapping and killing game animals out of season?
    I doubt he even considered trapping and taking fur bearing animals laws.

    He'd just default to the nuisance wildlife and 'pests tearing up my stuff' defense.

    Dumbfuck caught a 'possum in a live trap and of course shot it too. When I asked why he said they carry rabies. I told him 'No, they don't. Possums don't get rabies. They have too low a body temp and an immune system that guards against the rabies virus.'

    His response was it also looked like a giant rat and creeped his wife out.
     
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    This is the start of Yote breeding season around here - so some will be more on the aggressive side. That one sounded like it.

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    Sounds like he is waaaay too comfortable around your home and has been there before and will be back wether you see it or not. I would be afraid for any small kids or pets.

    Shoot on site.
     

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    I will be honest. I would not have seen this yote rolling in shit and being territorial, because I would have been hauling ass to the nearest rifle.
     
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    Just need a valid hunting license in Ohio. Day/night/suppressed - all good with minor restriction on times around deer gun season.

    Been looking at Super Hogster or Yoter. Threads like this just cost me money.