Can any of my Canukistan brothers explain which handguns I can bring to Canada? Doing some back country/travelling so will be carrying (Mostly in US, but hitting Banff as well). I understand I have to declare at border but the confusion is between what is prohibited vs restricted. The legaleze is not plain and I naturally don't want to cause an international incident.
Traveling with Handgun to Canada
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Two options:
1) Leave it in US storage unit.
2) Go straight to Canadian prison.
1) Leave it in US storage unit.
2) Go straight to Canadian prison.
You cannot bring handguns into Canada, period.
This started (ended) a few years ago.
Additionally, no firearms whatsoever in any Canadian National Park. Not even in your hotel.
I travel to Canada with firearms often (just got back 2 weeks ago) and remain mostly educated on the process as a dumb American.
This started (ended) a few years ago.
Additionally, no firearms whatsoever in any Canadian National Park. Not even in your hotel.
I travel to Canada with firearms often (just got back 2 weeks ago) and remain mostly educated on the process as a dumb American.
Per the above posts. That would be a solid no-go.
There are already a few trying to figure out a way to ship their personal guns from AK to lower 48 or from lower 48 to AK without getting their nuts inadvertently caught in the maple leafed crotch zipper of Canukistan.
I can just imagine their cunty, socialist little peepees getting hard at the thought of catching you coming into their sovereign lands with Satan's firearms.
There are already a few trying to figure out a way to ship their personal guns from AK to lower 48 or from lower 48 to AK without getting their nuts inadvertently caught in the maple leafed crotch zipper of Canukistan.
I can just imagine their cunty, socialist little peepees getting hard at the thought of catching you coming into their sovereign lands with Satan's firearms.
Also, when returning to the USA, make sure you fill out a CBP Form 4457 BEFORE leaving the USA.
But on personal experience, in the years of going to Canada with firearms... Not ONCE have they checked my firearms or my vehicle (after declaring them). Which I find odd. It must be my pleasant face.
I just paid the $25 CAD (if after 60 days since visiting) and drove off.
Keep in mind, I also participate in the NEXUS program... So maybe they know I don't want to fuck up my ability to cross without issues.
But on personal experience, in the years of going to Canada with firearms... Not ONCE have they checked my firearms or my vehicle (after declaring them). Which I find odd. It must be my pleasant face.
I just paid the $25 CAD (if after 60 days since visiting) and drove off.Keep in mind, I also participate in the NEXUS program... So maybe they know I don't want to fuck up my ability to cross without issues.
Maybe we'll get a third option and the western provinces will leave Candidastan for the US.
I believe Americans participate in Canadian IPSC or other handgun sports. No carry, no self-defense.
As I understand it, all handguns are either restricted or prohibited.
Prohibited handguns have a barrel length less than a little over 4" and/or a magazine capacity greater than 10 and/or a caliber less than something around 9mm ... no .25's or .32's.
Longer than 4", 10 rounds or less and proper caliber fall into restricted and can only be brought for target shooting, no hunting no carry/defense.
A range membership may be required to demonstrate lawful purpose.
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This is what I needed to know. Was reading up and had to get a transport permission and "reason for transport" was going to be "Because you pricks won't let me carry it around" plus 99% of the time I will be in a national park. Rifles seem a lot easier but I just love those exceptions which are not spelled out. My legaleze is enough to spot danger.
I hate being disarmed, but prison is still worse. At least at my age.
I don't have a pleasant face and I get caught at everything...
Well worth an ask. BUmmer.
If youre camping a shottie should be an option. I bought a Beretta Patrol for that very reason.
So you can open carry a shotgun in Canada wilderness as long as it's not a national park.
No longer. I used to be one of those Americans competing in ipsc in Canada. You cannot bring a pistol at all, anymore.
Oil, gas, timber, minerals and to inflate his personal ego. "Look what I did."
Sometimes I wonder if we, the voters, did the right thing.
Then I consider the alternative.
I'd take all of Canada that touches the Rockies... Otherwise, they can keep the rest
The view driving to the last Canada match (in Alberta)
The view driving to the last Canada match (in Alberta)
Interesting, that first link is from a Canadian web site.
Non-Resident declaration form at the RCMP website
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You can actually call the Canadian Border Patrol. They are actually pretty helpful or were in the past when I moved to Alaska and later back to the lower 48. https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/rpg-mrp-eng.html
One of my Soldiers was detained at the Sweetgrass Border crossing. They made him empty his trailer and they found one 30 round magazine in his kit (active Army, it was stuffed in his Army gear and he missed it). They handcuffed him in front of his wife and kids, $900 dollars in fines later he was released repack all his stuff into his trailer and to continue his journey to Fort Wainwright.
One of my Soldiers was detained at the Sweetgrass Border crossing. They made him empty his trailer and they found one 30 round magazine in his kit (active Army, it was stuffed in his Army gear and he missed it). They handcuffed him in front of his wife and kids, $900 dollars in fines later he was released repack all his stuff into his trailer and to continue his journey to Fort Wainwright.
Lots of web resources as well but apparently all out of date.
I had lots of questions, the Canadian Border guys got a little perturbed when I asked for their name and position for my records.
This is a helpful page on restricted firearms, which is about everything. https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-462/page-2.html
Canada is beautiful but like California it is batshit crazy!I'd take all of Canada that touches the Rockies... Otherwise, they can keep the rest
The view driving to the last Canada match (in Alberta)
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That's a long list of "former prohibited weapons" including the AK-47 ?
I got his from the RCMP about a year ago in reply to me asking about bringing (hand)guns from the lower 48 to AK via Canada:
Hello,
The Canada Border Services Agency controls firearms imports.
As a general rule, you are not allowed to carry handguns for self-protection in Canada. Non-residents can usually bring a non-restricted rifle or shotgun into Canada for approved purposes such as hunting, target shooting, wilderness protection or in-transit movement by a reasonably direct route to another point outside Canada.
If you are visiting Canada with a firearm, please fill out a Non-Resident Firearms Declaration form before you arrive at your entry point into Canada to save you time. Do not sign the form; a Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) customs officer must witness your signature. The fee is $25.
After a CBSA customs officer signs your Declaration, it is a temporary licence and it is valid for 60 days.
The Declaration is only valid for the person who signs it and only for the firearm(s) listed on it. If you are bringing more than three firearms into Canada, please fill out a Non-Resident Firearm Declaration Continuation Sheet.
The Declaration does not permit you to borrow firearms in Canada. The Declaration allows you to buy ammunition in Canada for the firearms listed on it. You can renew your Declaration for free before it expires. Please contact the Chief Firearms Officer of the province or territory.
In general, for a firearm that is classified as a non-restricted firearm (most hunting rifles and shotguns), you are only required to complete the Non-Resident Firearm Declaration form and declare the firearm with the Border Services Agent.
In the case of a restricted firearm (a handgun or rifle that is not prohibited), a Non-Resident Authorization to Transport (ATT) is also required and must also be obtained prior to your border crossing.
Please allow for 5 to 10 business days for processing. It is the responsibility of the applicant to ensure that enough processing time has been provided for the issuance of an ATT. Please complete the attached Application for a Non-resident Authorization To Transport and send the form:
By e-mail: [email protected]
By fax: 1-506-624-5830
By mail: Firearms Service Delivery
Chief Firearms Office Services Unit
P.O. Box 1200 / CP 1200 Miramichi
New Brunswick, Canada E1N 5Z3
Please note that firearms classified as prohibited are not permitted into Canada for any reason.
For more information, please see:
Non-residents | Royal Canadian Mounted Police (rcmp-grc.gc.ca)
Importing and exporting | Royal Canadian Mounted Police (rcmp-grc.gc.ca)
Import and export a firearm or weapon into Canada. (cbsa-asfc.gc.ca)
Hello,
The Canada Border Services Agency controls firearms imports.
As a general rule, you are not allowed to carry handguns for self-protection in Canada. Non-residents can usually bring a non-restricted rifle or shotgun into Canada for approved purposes such as hunting, target shooting, wilderness protection or in-transit movement by a reasonably direct route to another point outside Canada.
If you are visiting Canada with a firearm, please fill out a Non-Resident Firearms Declaration form before you arrive at your entry point into Canada to save you time. Do not sign the form; a Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) customs officer must witness your signature. The fee is $25.
After a CBSA customs officer signs your Declaration, it is a temporary licence and it is valid for 60 days.
The Declaration is only valid for the person who signs it and only for the firearm(s) listed on it. If you are bringing more than three firearms into Canada, please fill out a Non-Resident Firearm Declaration Continuation Sheet.
The Declaration does not permit you to borrow firearms in Canada. The Declaration allows you to buy ammunition in Canada for the firearms listed on it. You can renew your Declaration for free before it expires. Please contact the Chief Firearms Officer of the province or territory.
In general, for a firearm that is classified as a non-restricted firearm (most hunting rifles and shotguns), you are only required to complete the Non-Resident Firearm Declaration form and declare the firearm with the Border Services Agent.
In the case of a restricted firearm (a handgun or rifle that is not prohibited), a Non-Resident Authorization to Transport (ATT) is also required and must also be obtained prior to your border crossing.
Please allow for 5 to 10 business days for processing. It is the responsibility of the applicant to ensure that enough processing time has been provided for the issuance of an ATT. Please complete the attached Application for a Non-resident Authorization To Transport and send the form:
By e-mail: [email protected]
By fax: 1-506-624-5830
By mail: Firearms Service Delivery
Chief Firearms Office Services Unit
P.O. Box 1200 / CP 1200 Miramichi
New Brunswick, Canada E1N 5Z3
Please note that firearms classified as prohibited are not permitted into Canada for any reason.
For more information, please see:
Non-residents | Royal Canadian Mounted Police (rcmp-grc.gc.ca)
Importing and exporting | Royal Canadian Mounted Police (rcmp-grc.gc.ca)
Import and export a firearm or weapon into Canada. (cbsa-asfc.gc.ca)
If you're thinking BC, Quebec, etc. then yes. But I would argue places like Alberta, Saskatchewan, etc are similar to light red states.
That's where I was but I would not be participating in any "sporting activities" I appreciate the advice, I always worry about the little details and when I discovered not only did I need an entry form but a permit to transport it made it a no go. And with my luck I'd had brought an exception to the rules. Was gonna do 5" 629 or similar full size revolver. Y'all got some crazy regs up there fo sho.
I know CAN doesn't look kindly on us all the time, but we might need to do some "liberating" soon.
Any handgun is restricted (of any caliber or length)... It has been so for a few years. If you want to test those waters, when you enter Canada and declare a firearm, they literally tell you that all handguns are restricted at the border. I have been told this numerous times at the Peace Arch Crossing, Kingsgate, etc.
Prior to that, bringing in a 2011 was no issue for me.
Also, for those wondering, yes... You can have 11+ Rd mags for your bolt action centerfire or rimfire in Canada. There is no restriction.
The only bonafide way to bring a handgun across the border now is to be invited by CAF or RCMP for training.
Just looked it up, handgun ban went into effect 2022.
That's about when I stopped shooting in Canada due to COVID restrictions.
That's about when I stopped shooting in Canada due to COVID restrictions.
I would argue those places (AB, SK, etc) are more similar to say Oregon - rural areas are conservative but cities can still be as liberal as it gets.
I think the problem is in that form IF your have a restricted firearm (and all handguns are prohibited or restricted) than you also need the "Authorization to Transport" which is the REAL catch. This is how they bury us. In paperwork. Plus I also didn't know about guns in National Parks, so with my luck, I'd drive up, be totally honest when asked "Any Firearmds" because I declared my stuff at the border and am open an honest fellow: "Sure guy"
I kinda want to delete the thread, but there is good info on how to get your stuff into canda for matches and stuff, but for an casual carry enthusiast you are SOL.
I may just find an FFL in MT and mail my gun back to myself.
I tried to look it up. Link?
ETA: Nevermind, looked it up based on your 2022 timeframe.
Freezing the market on handguns
Fewer guns mean safer communities. That’s why the Government of Canada is implementing some of the strongest gun control measures in a generation.
To complete the info in this thread, I attached the required ATT form.
"In the case of a restricted firearm (a handgun or rifle that is not prohibited), a Non-Resident Authorization to Transport (ATT) is also required and must also be obtained prior to your border crossing.
Please allow for 5 to 10 business days for processing. It is the responsibility of the applicant to ensure that enough processing time has been provided for the issuance of an ATT. Please complete the attached Application for a Non-resident Authorization To Transport and send the form:
By e-mail: [email protected]"
"Do you have any firearms in the vehicle?"
"No, I left them all at home."
"Please pull into that parking spot and wait for the officer."
After two hours of interrogation, removal of nearly everything from the truck, digging through the dirty laundry and finding nothing ...
"You're free to go."
"Who's cleaning up the mess that you made?"
"No, I left them all at home."
"Please pull into that parking spot and wait for the officer."
After two hours of interrogation, removal of nearly everything from the truck, digging through the dirty laundry and finding nothing ...
"You're free to go."
"Who's cleaning up the mess that you made?"
The correct answer is just "No."
Every time I cross, they ask if I'm carrying my concealed pistol. I answer "No" and they let me go.
And I am the opposite. I am too pretty for prison.
So, I was thinking, maybe we can convince canadians to keep and bear arms. How, you may ask?
Namely, how about the US stop supporting their military. Let them be. Here, take care of yourself in t minus 3, 2, ...
Too intertwined with our military... NORAD is one example of them. We scramble jets to respond to any emergencies in their sky and they do the same for us when needed.
(I don't disagree with you)
The only way I know of being able to bring a handgun into Canada is if you have a Canadian Firearms License with the correct endorsements. That being said it’s got to be locked twice and you can’t do anything with it unless you are at an actual range. Not worth the hassle.
Due to the handgun freeze in Canadistan, you're not going to be able temporarily import the handgun, but you can apply for a Authorization to transport, but you have to do that ahead of time. REgardless, you won't be able to carry the firearm on your person during hiking, or any activities. It is permissible to have a firearm in your RV, trailer, or auto, as a self defense item against animals. If you tell them it's for self defense against humans, they will turn you around.
In 2019 I declared a Marlin 1895 levergun at the border. I had my CBP 4457 completed and stamped prior to leaving on the trip (always fun carrying a firearm into a government office to get that paperwork done). I declared the firearm at the border, gave them the paperwork I had already filled out, they did their thing, told me to park and come in to pay the $25 CAD, and it was super, easy. They didn't even ask to see it, in fact I did 5 border crossings before a Canadian Border agent leaving Hyder finally asked to see it.
Granted my experience is 6 years old now, so I don't know exactly what's changed. I know as far as firearms, if it's a manually operated firearm, you'll be ok. They don't like pistols, and most things semi auto.
If you're gonna visit Banff, carry bear spray. Test it ahead of time so you know what it feels like, and to make sure you don't have a can that's finicky, or too hard to operate. Bear spray has a 96% effectiveness rate against bears at stopping a charge, firearms only have a 76% effectiveness. You'll have no problem transporting bear spray, carrying it, or using it, but god forbid you have one of those little personal mace bottles, or a stun gun, you can't have those. The other plus side of bear spray, you don't have to explain to the authorities that you sprayed a bear. If you shoot one though, better be a clear cut good shoot.
You drive through a big ass x-ray driving up to the border station.
When they run your plate, they already know who you are, and they've already likely decided if they're going to search your car. Your body language, attitude, and answers, are going to be the deciding factor on their search.
I only had border agents enter my trailer twice. Once was the Canadian border agent as I was leaving Hyder alaska who wanted to physically see my declared firearm, and then when I entered the lower 48, the border agent asked me to open the camper, he went in, went and opened the fridge, presumably checked to see if I had picked up any citrus, closed the fridge, and started to walk out. Said I was good to go and enjoy the rest of my trip.
I was all paranoid and worried they were going to try to touch my butthole. Got myself all worked up in a tizzy reading stories about a-hole border agents being dickbags. Didn't have any problems. I assume it's because i'm not someone they need to worry about because of a good record, and having all my paperwork in order.
Oh, and if you get turned away (sometimes known as a "Polite Refusal") by canadian customs, that event gets logged on your permanent record in their computer system.
So.....on subsequent trips when you try to enter canada, canadian customs is more likely to detain you and ask you a bunch of questions and "politely refuse" you entry. So, whatever you do, go in clean and don't tempt fate.
So.....on subsequent trips when you try to enter canada, canadian customs is more likely to detain you and ask you a bunch of questions and "politely refuse" you entry. So, whatever you do, go in clean and don't tempt fate.
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That's why you put pepper on your butthole. That way, when they sniff the finger they were using, they get a sneezing fit.
Restricted and prohibited are two separate classifications. You can bring a restricted firearm into Canada with the proper prior approval. Not so with a prohibited.
All OP needs to do is declare he has a gun, count to 5, and the with exuberant enthusiasm, produce it from inside the cabin to the CBSA agent.
Fuck that shit, take the Alaska Ferry.
If their Western states wont join us, maybe we could just give them Everything west of the Sierra Nevadas and east of the Appalachians. Toss in Chicago and Denver for good luck.
If their Western states wont join us, maybe we could just give them Everything west of the Sierra Nevadas and east of the Appalachians. Toss in Chicago and Denver for good luck.
Yes, I know that. But there is zero chance RCMP will authorize a handgun to be transported into Canada since 2022.
Otherwise any other restricted item requires an ATT.
See my other posts
This!
There’s too many things I haven’t seen in the U.S., to fuck with their communist, Castro Jr. bullshit.
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