TriArc Track 2.0 16" SPR rifles/barrels?

[Runcibleman]

Has anyone ever come across or possibly even own and have documented anything on the capabilities of these TriArc Track 2.0 SPR barrels? https://www.triarcsystems.com/product/16-track-2-0-spr-profile-barrel-5-56-copy/

I see that they seem to have sold out of complete 16" barreled "SPR" rifles, which is what these barrels were made for, no doubt: https://www.triarcsystems.com/product/tsr-15-spr/
Does anyone here possibly own one of these?

As a currently pretty satisfied 16" Track 2.0 (regular tapered profile) barrel user, I am somewhat curious as to how much accuracy gain this thicker profile, heavier barrel delivers vs. the lighter profile product.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

As a currently pretty satisfied 16" Track 2.0 (regular tapered profile) barrel user, I am somewhat curious as to how much accuracy gain this thicker profile, heavier barrel delivers vs. the lighter profile product.

I doubt any. Having had multiple barrels from the same companies in different profiles, with the barrels made from the same blanks, with the same reamers on the same machines, heavier barrels have never shot appreciably better for me. Shooting groups after a mag dump usually shows a difference but that's about it.
However, a heavier gun (which is a side effect of a heavier barrel) is EASIER to shoot more accurately, not to be confused with actually being more accurate.

 

[Jsp556]

Nice to see the intermediate gas length. If these had 5/8x24 muzzles, they’d be ideal.

The video on Triarc’s site says 5/8x24 muzzle. Spec list shows 1/2x28

 

[TonyTheTiger]

Nice to see the intermediate gas length. If these had 5/8x24 muzzles, they’d be ideal.

I got all excited and just checked the website to see if they started making their lighter profile barrels in ILGS. No such luck.

 

[Runcibleman]

Shooting groups after a mag dump usually shows a difference but that's about it.
However, a heavier gun (which is a side effect of a heavier barrel) is EASIER to shoot more accurately, not to be confused with actually being more accurate.

I see! So based on that, dare I assume that the lightweight profile Daniel Defense CL CHF 16" is generally as accurate as one its standard (midweight?) counterparts?

Of course, any extended fire will show the spread opening up a little faster on the lighter barrels, but to me lighter weight is (generally) worth it, as I tend to lug the rifle over longer distances, and ounces make pounds...

I hear you on heavy rifles being easier to keep stable, once a good position has been established, haha! I saw the PRS boys like to load up their rifles with extra weights on the handguard to have 'em nice and heavy (but still balanced, I'm sure)

 

[Runcibleman]

I got all excited and just checked the website to see if they started making their lighter profile barrels in ILGS. No such luck.

Who else generally makes an intermediate length gas 16"?

Odinworks does: https://www.odinworks.com/223-Wylde-16-1-Intermid-p/b-223-16-int-tg.htm
And they appear to be real shooters with quality ammo: https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gear-review-odin-works-16-1-intermediate-barrel/

Black River Tactical used to (maybe still does?) and Molon had good luck with the one he tested: https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...d-optimum-barrel-accuracy-evaluation.7155035/
I have however had some bad stories about BRT not being consistent in their QC...

Does KAC's 16" SR15 barrel count as intermediate length gas? It's longer than mid-length, right?

 

[TonyTheTiger]

I see! So based on that, dare I assume that the lightweight profile Daniel Defense CL CHF 16" is generally as accurate as one its standard (midweight?) counterparts?

Of course, any extended fire will show the spread opening up a little faster on the lighter barrels, but to me lighter weight is (generally) worth it, as I tend to lug the rifle over longer distances, and ounces make pounds...

I hear you on heavy rifles being easier to keep stable, once a good position has been established, haha! I saw the PRS boys like to load up their rifles with extra weights on the handguard to have 'em nice and heavy (but still balanced, I'm sure)

I guess I should back up a bit. Are you concerned with practical accuracy or benchrest accuracy? If you want to shoot the smallest groups possible over and over again then a heavier barrel stacks the odds in your favor, but doesn't guarantee accuracy per se. Lot's of guys on this forum that are into that and will generally gravitate towards a heavier barrel.
For what I call practical accuracy, which is my focus, I want to be able to shoot a 5 shot group cold into 3/4 or so MOA. I have heavy and very light barrels that can easily do this or better, and quite a few similar groups afterwards.
If the rifle can do that it is plenty capable of hitting any target I'll ever want to hit. Considering I don't need to hit it 5 times and I'm unlikely to have a concrete bench handy, I'll always be the limiting factor, not that my light barreled rifle only shoots a .7" group but a truck axle barrel may have been able to shoot a .66" group.
So I guess what I mean when I say there's no difference is that for MY purposes there is no meaningful difference. Your requirements may be different.

Who else generally makes an intermediate length gas 16"?

Odinworks does: https://www.odinworks.com/223-Wylde-16-1-Intermid-p/b-223-16-int-tg.htm
And they appear to be real shooters with quality ammo: https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gear-review-odin-works-16-1-intermediate-barrel/

Black River Tactical used to (maybe still does?) and Molon had good luck with the one he tested: https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/black-river-tactical-16”-cold-hammer-forged-optimum-barrel-accuracy-evaluation.7155035/
I have however had some bad stories about BRT not being consistent in their QC...

Does KAC's 16" SR15 barrel count as intermediate length gas? It's longer than mid-length, right?

There's those and Stretch Precision, Wilson Combat, Noveske, Rainier, Special Ops Tactical and any good custom shop will make you an intermediate gas barrel. Probably some I forgot too. Mind you it's non standard, so they vary slightly in exact length. Having a couple intermediate gas 16" barrels I can say I will never own a 16" mid again.
There used to be more intermediate gas barrels on the market, Lantac, Salient, even Radical Firearms made them for a bit. Not sure if people were just suspicious of something new and the market never quite picked up for them or what.

 

[BCP]

Has anyone ever come across or possibly even own and have documented anything on the capabilities of these TriArc Track 2.0 SPR barrels? https://www.triarcsystems.com/product/16-track-2-0-spr-profile-barrel-5-56-copy/

I see that they seem to have sold out of complete 16" barreled "SPR" rifles, which is what these barrels were made for, no doubt: https://www.triarcsystems.com/product/tsr-15-spr/
Does anyone here possibly own one of these?

As a currently pretty satisfied 16" Track 2.0 (regular tapered profile) barrel user, I am somewhat curious as to how much accuracy gain this thicker profile, heavier barrel delivers vs. the lighter profile product.

With those barrels probably not a huge difference. The heavier one will take a little longer to heat up.

 

[Runcibleman]

There used to be more intermediate gas barrels on the market, Lantac, Salient, even Radical Firearms made them for a bit. Not sure if people were just suspicious of something new and the market never quite picked up for them or what.

Thank you for the tips, Tony! You're a man after my own heart in this regard!
I couldn't find anything from Radial now.
Salient is out of stock on 14.5's and I inquired with them about 16's any time in the near future.
Lantac now makes a 16" with rifle length gas porting, so I'm putting that on my Christmas 2023 list. Maybe if I am a good boy, my wife will deem it appropriate to permit the purchase, haha.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

Lantac now makes a 16" with rifle length gas porting, so I'm putting that on my Christmas 2023 list.

There are quite a few 16" RLGS barrels on the market. I'm sure the Lantac is good, just saying there are a lot of options.

 

[bfoosh006]

Bauer Precision has them in stock...
https://www.bauer-precision.com/triarc-systems-16-spr-track-2-0-barrel-kit-5-56mm/

 

[Jsp556]

No thanks at $419. I’ll wait till they’re in stock on triarc’s site.

I did watch the video on triarc’s site and they stated it would have a 5/8x24 muzzle but the specs show 1/2x28. If they’ll shoot as well as the old ARP’s, Ill grab a couple.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

I did watch the video on triarc’s site and they stated it would have a 5/8x24 muzzle but the specs show 1/2x28.

Just watched it and was gonna tag you to mention this.