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Trump and the GOP are committing suicide as a political force

Take it from an at that time, 29 year old idealistic dumb ass, along with over 19 million other idealistic dumb asses that voted for Ross Perot in 1992, chopping off one’s nose to spite his face when it comes to presidential elections can and will change the course of history like you never could have believed when making that “right” decision to vote (or not to vote) “on principal.”

In order to get our votes, that lying assed George H. W. Bush promised he would tell Democrats “Read My Lips, No New taxes!!!” And when he broke that promise, boy did we show him! Bush lost the popular vote by only 29.4% of what Perot siphoned away from the only two real candidates that had a chance of being elected POTUS.

While we thankfully elect presidents via an electoral college system, no-one denies that had Perot NOT been in the race, or had we geniuses that completely threw our votes away just held our noses and chose between the only two turds that had a chance of winning, Bush would have been elected instead of Clinton.

While no-one can calculate all of the damage Bill Clinton did to our country, one must wonder if we would have ever even heard the name Osama bin Laden had Bush been elected. And who was the POTUS in 1994 when the so-called Assault Weapon ban bill was passed?

I know as sure as the sun came up yesterday that this will fall on deaf ears, but just for fun, remember you heard it here. When we allow any one of these Democrat freaks currently running for POTUS to be elected, a fricking background check, is look like a gift from God when they get through with us.

Hang on to your hats when this next Democrat POTUS is seeking gun control input from AOC and Ilham Omar, or from the other two members of the Squad, that according to the New York Times 2 days ago, is “the Future of the Democratic Party.”


P.S. Trump is a northeastern Yankee so he likely means what he’s saying regarding the background checks. But, he’s also a negotiator and he could flip this thing around on the Dems and end up with a victory.

If Repubs were as good at chess as the Dems, they would come up with a bill that, for example, required inner city leftist judges to impose mandatory long term sentences without any bond on their thug base when convicted of a violent crime with a gun.

The leftist Democrat Party is the party of lawlessness. They will not enforce current laws and only want new laws to impose as a tool on us. Turn the tables on these totalitarian leftist shit eaters by including some language taking away their catch and release revolving door inner city scam that allows them to keep control of these large cities, then watch this background checks bill melt like butter in a scalding skillet.
 
I agree with your passion, but disagree with your position. Intelligent men wait to see the bill written and then read it. Before declaring the apocalypse. JMHO
I've seen Trump waffle in these issues, now Mitch joining in, if he ever allows it to come up. Old Lindsey getting on board as well. My hope is that the SCOTUS decides to take up the issue and expand on the 2nd.
 
What did teh Clintons accomplish that was so different than the Bush aenda?

YOu call them dumasses, I say they were anti globalist POS politicians, Perot was proven right on almost every assertion he had. So Fuck you.

Take it from an at that time, 29 year old idealistic dumb ass, along with over 19 million other idealistic dumb asses that voted for Ross Perot in 1992, chopping off one’s nose to spite his face when it comes to presidential elections can and will change the course of history like you never could have believed when making that “right” decision to vote (or not to vote) “on principal.”

In order to get our votes, that lying assed George H. W. Bush promised he would tell Democrats “Read My Lips, No New taxes!!!” And when he broke that promise, boy did we show him! Bush lost the popular vote by only 29.4% of what Perot siphoned away from the only two real candidates that had a chance of being elected POTUS.

While we thankfully elect presidents via an electoral college system, no-one denies that had Perot NOT been in the race, or had we geniuses that completely threw our votes away just held our noses and chose between the only two turds that had a chance of winning, Bush would have been elected instead of Clinton.

While no-one can calculate all of the damage Bill Clinton did to our country, one must wonder if we would have ever even heard the name Osama bin Laden had Bush been elected. And who was the POTUS in 1994 when the so-called Assault Weapon ban bill was passed?

I know as sure as the sun came up yesterday that this will fall on deaf ears, but just for fun, remember you heard it here. When we allow any one of these Democrat freaks currently running for POTUS to be elected, a fricking background check, is look like a gift from God when they get through with us.

Hang on to your hats when this next Democrat POTUS is seeking gun control input from AOC and Ilham Omar, or from the other two members of the Squad, that according to the New York Times 2 days ago, is “the Future of the Democratic Party.”


P.S. Trump is a northeastern Yankee so he likely means what he’s saying regarding the background checks. But, he’s also a negotiator and he could flip this thing around on the Dems and end up with a victory.

If Repubs were as good at chess as the Dems, they would come up with a bill that, for example, required inner city leftist judges to impose mandatory long term sentences without any bond on their thug base when convicted of a violent crime with a gun.

The leftist Democrat Party is the party of lawlessness. They will not enforce current laws and only want new laws to impose as a tool on us. Turn the tables on these totalitarian leftist shit eaters by including some language taking away their catch and release revolving door inner city scam that allows them to keep control of these large cities, then watch this background checks bill melt like butter in a scalding skillet.
 
Before everyone becomes a democratic socialist.... consider that nothing has been done but words.... the Senate is gone for a month...

When they get back, I predict the following... some kind of bill that makes the existing checks more effective (ie. things we have all wanted.... like exemption for HIPA, etc.) Schumer will call for "Universal Background Checks" which will go nowhere. If they pass anything in the Senate at all.... the House will come up with something so insane that the whole process will go nowhere.

The Republicans and Trump will look good to independents who are buying the B.S. Kool Aid being pushed by Bloomberg and will go "gee, they tried, but crazy Chuck and Nancy won't even let 'common sense' (note dripping sarcasm) bills pass. And will further be alienated from uber left. In the mean time, some 40 freshmen dems from Red districts will have had to go back on their promises to support the 2A and will be vulnerable in 16 months.

BTW, I watched the CEO of GoA on Fox last night. The guy is a pathetic spokesman. He could have explained the fallacy of Universal Background Checks. He could have eviscerated the Bloomberg Schill. Instead, he bloviated bad arguments, showed little real debating skill... and degenerated to "This black man in Baltimore could be alive if he could have had a gun that day...." so there should be no checks or balances. Is he 'technically' right that the 2A should not be infringed? Of course. Did he look like an idiot (and by extension make us all look like idiots with his inability to offer a solid argument)... Yup. IMHO he did more damage than good. But maybe that's just me.

Bloomberg schill kept blowing off about "Buying guns online or illegally at gun shows"... which is just B.S. Because we all know that you still do checks... and that private sales are legal. But noone refutes that argument by pointing out that the "Gunshow and Online" loopholes do not exist. They are made up.

Anyway... before everyone runs off and becomes a Bernie supporter, remember we have been going to this rodeo for years. And the end is that nothing has changed. Will it this time? Maybe, but I don't think so.

Moreover, I think some bigger bombs are about to drop and the left is going to have its hands full simply trying not to look like complete traitors... And their response in the streets may sell more guns to citizens than Obama ever did.

Sirhr
 
There should be no checks at all other than the sellers judgment. Regulating a right, especially when the people making the call are the reason the right was created is not smart on any level.

The 2A is there to destroy despotic unconstitutional governments. Giving the despotic government a say in who does and who doesn't exercise that right negates the meaning of the word "Right"
 
my hope is buying ammo and ars now, they have no regard for he constitution, fuckem all

Doesn’t matter. Most people would rather hide them away than fight for their rights. Sadly.

Before everyone becomes a democratic socialist.... consider that nothing has been done but words.... the Senate is gone for a month...

When they get back, I predict the following... some kind of bill that makes the existing checks more effective (ie. things we have all wanted.... like exemption for HIPA, etc.) Schumer will call for "Universal Background Checks" which will go nowhere. If they pass anything in the Senate at all.... the House will come up with something so insane that the whole process will go nowhere.

The Republicans and Trump will look good to independents who are buying the B.S. Kool Aid being pushed by Bloomberg and will go "gee, they tried, but crazy Chuck and Nancy won't even let 'common sense' (note dripping sarcasm) bills pass. And will further be alienated from uber left. In the mean time, some 40 freshmen dems from Red districts will have had to go back on their promises to support the 2A and will be vulnerable in 16 months.

BTW, I watched the CEO of GoA on Fox last night. The guy is a pathetic spokesman. He could have explained the fallacy of Universal Background Checks. He could have eviscerated the Bloomberg Schill. Instead, he bloviated bad arguments, showed little real debating skill... and degenerated to "This black man in Baltimore could be alive if he could have had a gun that day...." so there should be no checks or balances. Is he 'technically' right that the 2A should not be infringed? Of course. Did he look like an idiot (and by extension make us all look like idiots with his inability to offer a solid argument)... Yup. IMHO he did more damage than good. But maybe that's just me.

Bloomberg schill kept blowing off about "Buying guns online or illegally at gun shows"... which is just B.S. Because we all know that you still do checks... and that private sales are legal. But noone refutes that argument by pointing out that the "Gunshow and Online" loopholes do not exist. They are made up.

Anyway... before everyone runs off and becomes a Bernie supporter, remember we have been going to this rodeo for years. And the end is that nothing has changed. Will it this time? Maybe, but I don't think so.

Moreover, I think some bigger bombs are about to drop and the left is going to have its hands full simply trying not to look like complete traitors... And their response in the streets may sell more guns to citizens than Obama ever did.

Sirhr

I hope you are right.
 
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Before everyone becomes a democratic socialist.... consider that nothing has been done but words.... the Senate is gone for a month...

When they get back, I predict the following... some kind of bill that makes the existing checks more effective (ie. things we have all wanted.... like exemption for HIPA, etc.) Schumer will call for "Universal Background Checks" which will go nowhere. If they pass anything in the Senate at all.... the House will come up with something so insane that the whole process will go nowhere.

The Republicans and Trump will look good to independents who are buying the B.S. Kool Aid being pushed by Bloomberg and will go "gee, they tried, but crazy Chuck and Nancy won't even let 'common sense' (note dripping sarcasm) bills pass. And will further be alienated from uber left. In the mean time, some 40 freshmen dems from Red districts will have had to go back on their promises to support the 2A and will be vulnerable in 16 months.

BTW, I watched the CEO of GoA on Fox last night. The guy is a pathetic spokesman. He could have explained the fallacy of Universal Background Checks. He could have eviscerated the Bloomberg Schill. Instead, he bloviated bad arguments, showed little real debating skill... and degenerated to "This black man in Baltimore could be alive if he could have had a gun that day...." so there should be no checks or balances. Is he 'technically' right that the 2A should not be infringed? Of course. Did he look like an idiot (and by extension make us all look like idiots with his inability to offer a solid argument)... Yup. IMHO he did more damage than good. But maybe that's just me.

Bloomberg schill kept blowing off about "Buying guns online or illegally at gun shows"... which is just B.S. Because we all know that you still do checks... and that private sales are legal. But noone refutes that argument by pointing out that the "Gunshow and Online" loopholes do not exist. They are made up.

Anyway... before everyone runs off and becomes a Bernie supporter, remember we have been going to this rodeo for years. And the end is that nothing has changed. Will it this time? Maybe, but I don't think so.

Moreover, I think some bigger bombs are about to drop and the left is going to have its hands full simply trying not to look like complete traitors... And their response in the streets may sell more guns to citizens than Obama ever did.

Sirhr

I’ve been thinking along these lines since these shootings happened. Trump is really in a tight spot right now, being attacked from both sides, and I think his strategy is to seem engaged but stall any real action. A little time can do wonders in our current short news cycles. That’s what I’d do in his situation. I also think @cottonant is correct to tie any bill being considered to other things that WE know are actually common sense but the other side would never allow - like holding their criminal voting base accountable for their crimes.
 
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We need to focus on the father less house holds and head drugs all these little fucks have been on.

But in today's on demand society we want an immediate fix and that's not going to happen.
 
Or ending welfare and child support.

Force these trifling hoes to pick a decent partner and stick with him.

Yes exactly.
Eliminate the ability to use Men as slaves to give them free money.
No more welfare, child support, spousal support, alimony etc.

All of it is just the government stealing money from men at gunpoint to give to the evil women who are helping destroy the country.
 
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Married with children and work in between so I don't sleep much. Was stuck on Amazon Prime this morning when I woke up at 2am, watched a docu on William Tecumseh Sherman then followed up with the Boer Wars.

JR
 
I think Trump should veto any bill that doesn't have $50 Billion for border fence. Tell the demoshit party to suck it

The Supreme Court already said that Trump can use DOD funding to build the wall, yet crickets on that front after weeks. Trump is all talk, no action on all fronts.
 
Trump should tell them we will discuss "Common Sense Gun Reform" only after we pass

Common Sense.....Immigration Reform
Common Sense.....Welfare Reform
Common Sense.....Mental Health Reform
Common Sense.....Prescription Drug Reform
Common Sense.....Tax Reform
Common Sense.....Voter ID Reform
Common Sense.....Education Reform
Common Sense.....You Name It Reform
 
I dont think I can ever vote or a republican again. Fuckthem and their "Background checks " fuck them forever.


Fuck the NRA too


Pass whatever the fick you want DC lets see how things turn the fuck out.

Yes sir....GOA is all I support now....

Pass them laws.....pass them all day long...makes no never mind to me...nothing changes other than a bunch of gun grabbers getting shot in the face or worse...