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@Vodoun daVinci sounds like you suffer from headupurassdisease.
You might need to step out of your comfort zone and do some actual research. Start with staying off social media, including MSNBC and CNN. Listen to some conservative talk radio. You may actually learn something. One can hope.
 
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All in favor of more choices than Biden or Trump raise their hands.....

Our Government is now run by dumb fucks who don't work for US. We get a choice of...never mind.

VooDoo

the more I look into the more I like what Maine did but going to rank voting which significantly opens the door for third party candidates. This can be done at the state level with out federal approval.
May be time for this
 
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the more I look into the more I like what Maine did but going to rank voting which significantly opens the door for third party candidates. This can be done at the state level with out federal approval.
May be time for this
It's a currupt system of voting. My choice can get the most votes in rd one and still lose. If I refuse to rank candidates that I would not support, my ballot gets thrown out in the ranking process. It's just another scheme communists have cooked up to steal elections. But I bet you already knew that.
 

He had to deal with the "damned if you do, damned if you don’t" Covid-19 situation. Fair enough.

But he had a choice about not touching the continuing dumpster fire in Marxist strong holds where he cannot gain a single vote that counts (due to the rules of the Electoral College ). Heck, I would make a donation the next tax day for rebuilding a couple of burned down federal building if he'd stay tf out of this mess.

I am still praying for a miracle 4d chess move from you, Mr. President. Like cracking down HARD on the Marxist revolution for the next few month while withdrawing from the presidential race in favor of a moderate, female or ethnic minority candidate of the GOP. Do the dirty work for America and take the fall for it but do not hand all three levers of power to the Marxists by running a -at this point unwinnable- reelection campaign. Understand that in 2016 people did not vote for you but against Hillary and the establishment. I am convinced that in 2020 America will vote against Socialism/Marxism unless the alternative is an individual who has personally alienated the vast majority one way or the other. (My pet peeves are bump stock ban and the stimulus freebies)

If the deployment of federal law enforcement into cities that neither want nor deserve help is just some narcissistic chest puffing, then it's "bye bye Ms. American Pie" come November.
Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which hand has more.
 
A big protest is planned for Saturday night in Richmond Virginia that the organizers are calling " Richmond Supports Portland".
Trump should just let the mayors and governors be on their own and refuse giving any federal aid to rebuild.

My own US Senators introduced a bill to limit the use of Federal Agents in the streets. I think they all will be shocked when they see the violence continue after the democrats take control in November.

The Richmond mayor spends over a million dollars removing 11 Confederate statues but doesn't have enough money to keep toilet paper stocked in public schools and keep the trash picked up in the city.

The seams of our society are ripping apart and the silent majority is still silent.
 
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the more I look into the more I like what Maine did but going to rank voting which significantly opens the door for third party candidates. This can be done at the state level with out federal approval.
May be time for this


The Communists than Water down the field with non viable candidates that have no chance of winning but will get their share of votes.

No candidate gets a majority than it becomes a clusterfuck process.

Parliamentary govts run similiar. Our Constitution was designed to prevent Parliament.
 
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Commies being anyone who isn't an "Ever Trumper" right?

I have dozens of friends in the EU and UK and not a single one of them are a "Commie". The problem in the US is that everyone who sees that Trump is a jackass is now a "Commie" and that Universal/Single Payer Health Care is now a "Commie" fucked up mess even though it works just fucking fine in the EU and UK.

The world is gonna change. Hopefully we here in the US can remain as the Top Dogs but, alas, I suspect not as we simply are too fucking stupid to get it. Everyone who disagrees with me is *not* a Socialist/Communist - we can have Universal/Single payer Health Care *and* keep our guns if we stop rationalizing *everything* that benefits *everyone* as "Socialism/Communism" and assume that we have to be disarmed to have it.

Never mind. The Republic is gonna sort itself out and there will be no winners. Survivors yes - Winners?

Not likely. Vote Trump. He'll fix it. He didn't do *jack shit* for his first term but Boy Howdy he'll drain that swamp and get US the wall (paid for by Mexico even though we already paid for it....) and "negotiate like crazy" with Big Pharma to get US fair drug prices and kill *all* those Socialist mother fuckers.

Vote Trump and watch it burn. Or Vote Biden and watch US be disarmed so we can spit at those who want our resources as we watch it burn. Either way?

We be Fucked. Maybe we'll get a Reach Around but I'm betting not.

VooDoo
Just when I thought you couldn't be more clueless...
 
It's a currupt system of voting. My choice can get the most votes in rd one and still lose. If I refuse to rank candidates that I would not support, my ballot gets thrown out in the ranking process. It's just another scheme communists have cooked up to steal elections. But I bet you already knew that.
Yeah, and it would sure help any party that was comprised of several tribal factions with different interests that sometimes find themselves at odds with one another. Like Union workers and welfare recipients, teachers and pedophiles, queers and Muslims, feminists and pimps, or owners and slaves.
 
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Commies being anyone who isn't an "Ever Trumper" right?

I have dozens of friends in the EU and UK and not a single one of them are a "Commie". The problem in the US is that everyone who sees that Trump is a jackass is now a "Commie" and that Universal/Single Payer Health Care is now a "Commie" fucked up mess even though it works just fucking fine in the EU and UK.

The world is gonna change. Hopefully we here in the US can remain as the Top Dogs but, alas, I suspect not as we simply are too fucking stupid to get it. Everyone who disagrees with me is *not* a Socialist/Communist - we can have Universal/Single payer Health Care *and* keep our guns if we stop rationalizing *everything* that benefits *everyone* as "Socialism/Communism" and assume that we have to be disarmed to have it.

Never mind. The Republic is gonna sort itself out and there will be no winners. Survivors yes - Winners?

Not likely. Vote Trump. He'll fix it. He didn't do *jack shit* for his first term but Boy Howdy he'll drain that swamp and get US the wall (paid for by Mexico even though we already paid for it....) and "negotiate like crazy" with Big Pharma to get US fair drug prices and kill *all* those Socialist mother fuckers.

Vote Trump and watch it burn. Or Vote Biden and watch US be disarmed so we can spit at those who want our resources as we watch it burn. Either way?

We be Fucked. Maybe we'll get a Reach Around but I'm betting not.

VooDoo
Trump did excellent things in his first term, and wouldve done more had it not been for treasonous judges
 
Trump made America great again until the the NWO communists, aka Democrats, stopped him / us.

im asking this as a real question as if we were sitting together having a beer
(For some reason when I ask questions like this people in this form start accusing me of being a plant for antifa or some shit like that) chances are I have just lived a different experience than you. (I feel this is a concept that our founding fathers recognized even then but that we have lost sight of today that large groups with in this one great country have lived and continue to live very different realities depending on where they are from.

What specific programs due you feel the Trump administration has put in place over the last 3ish years have been positive for the country. Now please I do ask that we speak to programs. I say this because nearly all politicians from both parties have on more than one occasion spoke to the public about their vision but than instituted or supported very different plans. Example trump on 2A he spoke big in support. NFA was gonna get repealed than it was going to be silencers and instead we have a bump stock ban.

so what programs do you like
And if you like I will gladly speak to democratic programs I strongly dislike.
 

He had to deal with the "damned if you do, damned if you don’t" Covid-19 situation. Fair enough.

But he had a choice about not touching the continuing dumpster fire in Marxist strong holds where he cannot gain a single vote that counts (due to the rules of the Electoral College ). Heck, I would make a donation the next tax day for rebuilding a couple of burned down federal building if he'd stay tf out of this mess.

I am still praying for a miracle 4d chess move from you, Mr. President. Like cracking down HARD on the Marxist revolution for the next few month while withdrawing from the presidential race in favor of a moderate, female or ethnic minority candidate of the GOP. Do the dirty work for America and take the fall for it but do not hand all three levers of power to the Marxists by running a -at this point unwinnable- reelection campaign. Understand that in 2016 people did not vote for you but against Hillary and the establishment. I am convinced that in 2020 America will vote against Socialism/Marxism unless the alternative is an individual who has personally alienated the vast majority one way or the other. (My pet peeves are bump stock ban and the stimulus freebies)

If the deployment of federal law enforcement into cities that neither want nor deserve help is just some narcissistic chest puffing, then it's "bye bye Ms. American Pie" come November.
No, he did not take the bate.
But you did, because you're an asshole.
 
hope when the fed shows up on the crowd it would be neat if the they roll in playing rawhide on loud speakers and rustle up them cow pokes lol without warning
marching them through the streets into buses and off to boats to go to processing lol
whips a cracking and all .
 
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America, where one has freedom of choice. This November the choice is a Communist vs. a Fascist. Dictator vs. Dictator. Decisions decisions...
I'm not seeing where the fascist vote is... Can you please point that out? Additionally, can you please point out the dictator?

I know Trump, of course is a can of it, that supports capitalism, growth of this country, once all the religions and races to get along, once you to work where you want how you want when you want and spend most of the money you have how you want.

You have the primary Democratic candidate that wants to take your freedoms, given to the people that don't want to earn money, and most of all is a pedophile
 
im asking this as a real question as if we were sitting together having a beer
(For some reason when I ask questions like this people in this form start accusing me of being a plant for antifa or some shit like that) chances are I have just lived a different experience than you. (I feel this is a concept that our founding fathers recognized even then but that we have lost sight of today that large groups with in this one great country have lived and continue to live very different realities depending on where they are from.

What specific programs due you feel the Trump administration has put in place over the last 3ish years have been positive for the country. Now please I do ask that we speak to programs. I say this because nearly all politicians from both parties have on more than one occasion spoke to the public about their vision but than instituted or supported very different plans. Example trump on 2A he spoke big in support. NFA was gonna get repealed than it was going to be silencers and instead we have a bump stock ban.

so what programs do you like
And if you like I will gladly speak to democratic programs I strongly dislike.

Not sure what you mean by programs but here are some of his accomplishments while in office. I believe they're positive for the country. Most of them I wasn't aware of nor would I have been able to recite if I did. He's accomplished more than any U.S. president in history. So I'll just post up a link:

The main accomplishment I do know he's responsible for is following through with his trade agreements with Mexico and China which kicked off a booming economy, a rise of which most, including myself, have never witnessed. It pissed the communist Chinese off and their NWO puppets, the communist Democrats, and their priority one mission since is to bring down the U.S. economy, thus bringing down Trump.

There are other accomplishments Trump the humanitarian has carried out such as making animal cruelty a felony, something the 3rd world born, dog eating Obama couldn't even grasp, or working in feeding the homeless in soup kitchens, something you would never see the murderous child predator Clintons or their uglier than fuck Webb Hubbell love child Chelsea doing. I don't know about you, but I couldn't be happier DJT defeated Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Anyway, I hope I answered your question because I have other things to do this weekend, including having a beer with my fellow patriots. Cheers.
 
Not sure what you mean by programs but here are some of his accomplishments while in office. I believe they're positive for the country. Most of them I wasn't aware of nor would I have been able to recite if I did. He's accomplished more than any U.S. president in history. So I'll just post up a link:

The main accomplishment I do know he's responsible for is following through with his trade agreements with Mexico and China which kicked off a booming economy, a rise of which most, including myself, have never witnessed. It pissed the communist Chinese off and their NWO puppets, the communist Democrats, and their priority one mission since is to bring down the U.S. economy, thus bringing down Trump.

There are other accomplishments Trump the humanitarian has carried out such as making animal cruelty a felony, something the 3rd world born, dog eating Obama couldn't even grasp, or working in feeding the homeless in soup kitchens, something you would never see the murderous child predator Clintons or their uglier than fuck Webb Hubbell love child Chelsea doing. I don't know about you, but I couldn't be happier DJT defeated Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Anyway, I hope I answered your question because I have other things to do this weekend, including having a beer with my fellow patriots. Cheers.

Thank you for responding I too have been busy and had not had a chance to see the reply till now. I don’t want to make any statement until I’ve had a chance to review the information you linked to. A quick review high lights many executive orders which as well all now not all executive orders redirect policy or create change. But it is interesting because one of the areas that Obama received a tremendous amount of grief was his use of executive order and basically him “as king” trying to go around congress by utilizing executive order power. In trumps first three years in office including two where he had control of the house and senate he actual used his executive order power more than Obama.
As far as the economy goes you know like many things this is still something that seems to be in the eye of the beholder and at times how one feels and how they stack up aren’t always the same. In my years of business through out meetings it has always been interesting to have people quantify their position. We would often have principles come to the table making statements like “xyz always happens, or we have had many calls about “x” etc etc and then when asked to track this and follow up they come back to the next meeting and it turns out the actual numbers do not support their feeling of the event. Now since we thought that was important we didn’t ignore the employee but would try to dig deeper as to why they felt that way when the numbers didn’t support it. Often it resulted in a shifting of resources or some changes to better the situation. Other times just putting a light on the fact that it really wasn’t the thing filling their day changed their perspective.

recently I had been discussing politics with someone in my home town and we began looking at the economy as a whole and in the black community in relation ship to jobs and I think he was surprised by the actual trajectory of the economy because you keep hearing trump make such grandiose statements

we looked at the seasonally adjusted labor

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in response the individual felt that graph failed to show the specific gains in the black community and the clear failure by the Obama administration in that regard. As evidence he provided this graph
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now I felt this graph really didn’t articulate his point
Yes there was a significant low during the first half of Obama’s first term. But if you look at the rate it fell in the year leading up to him taking office in 2009 within one year it began to stabilize and by the last quarter of his first term went up significantly and over the next 5 years increased 3.2 million.
the graph is unclear it appears to show two years under trump 2017-2019 but the detail is t really there to be fair but over the listed time period you show a consistent rate of increase and 700k jobs under trump

if trump wanted to say we have enjoyed a good economy under him I would agree
And although the numbers don’t support his hyperbole I would recognize that people probably feel better and probably feel more comfortable with gains above what the numbers actual say because how we feel and the reality aren’t always the same

kind of like black lives matter, yes they do , and they probably feel as if cops kill black peoples at some crazy rate, but the numbers don’t actually support that, and although I think there is evidence that supports bias in policing and our judicial systems, if African Americans are worried about the safety of the members of their community the police are no where near the top of the list of major killers to their community so the feeling and the numbers don’t always add up but with that being said belief and reality although many times different can have an effect on outcome

some rifles recoil harder than others yet some cartridges, although actually having less recoil force feel like they recoil harder because of blast signature and the recoil impulse And we develop a flinch anyway Reality and belief run parrallel sometimes they cros sometimes they don’t but they always effect outcome
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What gov program did trump start to my our lives better? Of course you ask specifically what program. What a loaded, bullshit question. The unraveling of gov programs and gov control of our lives and economy is what a lot (likely most) here want. Fuck the fed gov and these communist programs. BTW, are you a woman or a man today? Or just unsure?
 
What gov program did trump start to my our lives better? Of course you ask specifically what program. What a loaded, bullshit question. The unraveling of gov programs and gov control of our lives and economy is what a lot (likely most) here want. Fuck the fed gov and these communist programs. BTW, are you a woman or a man today? Or just unsure?

not intended as a loaded question I would absolutely recognize the removal or abolishment of a program in that same sphere of the question. Absolutely.
 
What gov program did trump start to my our lives better? Of course you ask specifically what program. What a loaded, bullshit question. The unraveling of gov programs and gov control of our lives and economy is what a lot (likely most) here want. Fuck the fed gov and these communist programs. BTW, are you a woman or a man today? Or just unsure?

well since I don’t suffer from gender dysphoria, to the best of my knowledge I have an XY chromosome(never had a test that I know of to prove the science) and a dick with functioning balls(a plus in my book) I will go with male.

and since I’m comfortable with myself as a male (thankfully my wife is too) I don’t give much concern to the minor minor minor percentage of the people who do suffer from gender disphoria since it doesn’t effect me and I’m very much ok with people living there life how they want. And if some guy do to a chemical shift in their body wants to have their penis removed because they feel more comfortable as a women so be it. There are guys who prefer chevys and I don’t understand that either

what’s your take on the also very rare situation of male XX syndrome or the also very rare situation where children are born with both sets of genitalia. Typically in this situation parents are asked if they would like to make an assignment choice. Some do some don’t and I’m many cases those that do make the wrong choice.
 
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Then I wonder why it is you referred to yourself as a woman in another thread. Strange world.
 
Then I wonder why it is you referred to yourself as a woman in another thread. Strange world.

outside of a typo (phone touch pad with fat arthritic hands make a louder combo) I’m not familiar with what your referring to if you want to link i would gladly address
 
I wonder how many millionaires are now billionaires and I wonder how many of you here are now millionaires thanks to donald's economy? Just curious...
 
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I wonder how many millionaires are now billionaires and I wonder how many of you here are now millionaires thanks to donald's economy? Just curious...
I’m not sure if that’s a snide remark or exactly how to take it... I’ll go with snide.
YES SIR, THANK GOD FOR CAPITALISM!!!!
 
I’m not sure if that’s a snide remark or exactly how to take it... I’ll go with snide.
YES SIR, THANK GOD FOR CAPITALISM!!!!

I dont know if it was snide or not. But the advancement of millionaire is less impactful than the question of the growth of the middle class.
That’s the true test.
 
POLITICS: the ability to control men's minds and therefore their actions = SLAVES!

FUCK 'em ALL! Is that snide enuff for y'all?!
 
Special government programs? There should be zero special government programs for any particular group. That is up to your local community / Church
 
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He had to deal with the "damned if you do, damned if you don’t" Covid-19 situation. Fair enough.

But he had a choice about not touching the continuing dumpster fire in Marxist strong holds where he cannot gain a single vote that counts (due to the rules of the Electoral College ). Heck, I would make a donation the next tax day for rebuilding a couple of burned down federal building if he'd stay tf out of this mess.

I am still praying for a miracle 4d chess move from you, Mr. President. Like cracking down HARD on the Marxist revolution for the next few month while withdrawing from the presidential race in favor of a moderate, female or ethnic minority candidate of the GOP. Do the dirty work for America and take the fall for it but do not hand all three levers of power to the Marxists by running a -at this point unwinnable- reelection campaign. Understand that in 2016 people did not vote for you but against Hillary and the establishment. I am convinced that in 2020 America will vote against Socialism/Marxism unless the alternative is an individual who has personally alienated the vast majority one way or the other. (My pet peeves are bump stock ban and the stimulus freebies)

If the deployment of federal law enforcement into cities that neither want nor deserve help is just some narcissistic chest puffing, then it's "bye bye Ms. American Pie" come November.
Think your sadly misinformed, President Trump is doing what he said he would do, I consider President Trump the best Conservative POTUS ever, looks like your voting for Biden, Marxist, Mad Max future,
ugh.
Realize theres only two choices, your picking fairy dust that doesn't exist,
No, we voted for Trump, Hillary is the devil , Trump is, not the swamp.
Federal Government has the responsibility to protect Federal property, ✔
Optics of Trump helping the citizens, he's not doing it for fame, like most of our ass licking politicians, he's helping end the generational slaughter, or at least try.
Thank God we still can have different views ,still kind of free.
2024 Candace Owens for POTUS
 
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im asking this as a real question as if we were sitting together having a beer
(For some reason when I ask questions like this people in this form start accusing me of being a plant for antifa or some shit like that) chances are I have just lived a different experience than you. (I feel this is a concept that our founding fathers recognized even then but that we have lost sight of today that large groups with in this one great country have lived and continue to live very different realities depending on where they are from.

What specific programs due you feel the Trump administration has put in place over the last 3ish years have been positive for the country. Now please I do ask that we speak to programs. I say this because nearly all politicians from both parties have on more than one occasion spoke to the public about their vision but than instituted or supported very different plans. Example trump on 2A he spoke big in support. NFA was gonna get repealed than it was going to be silencers and instead we have a bump stock ban.

so what programs do you like
And if you like I will gladly speak to democratic programs I strongly dislike.
Watch this is a year old, President Trump has done much more, why the hell can't you dou your own research, besides watching Media Cabal, Fake news.
 
It's time for DT to push through some executive orders beefing up the second amendment, reciprocity, ETC so peoples rights stop being trampled and they can protect themselves in this time of crisis...
 
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Ill believe it when I can openly carry my 1911 on my leg in commifornia.
 
well since I don’t suffer from gender dysphoria, to the best of my knowledge I have an XY chromosome(never had a test that I know of to prove the science) and a dick with functioning balls(a plus in my book) I will go with male.

and since I’m comfortable with myself as a male (thankfully my wife is too) I don’t give much concern to the minor minor minor percentage of the people who do suffer from gender disphoria since it doesn’t effect me and I’m very much ok with people living there life how they want. And if some guy do to a chemical shift in their body wants to have their penis removed because they feel more comfortable as a women so be it. There are guys who prefer chevys and I don’t understand that either

what’s your take on the also very rare situation of male XX syndrome or the also very rare situation where children are born with both sets of genitalia. Typically in this situation parents are asked if they would like to make an assignment choice. Some do some don’t and I’m many cases those that do make the wrong choice.

just fucking stop. You don’t know what you’re talking about. PlannedParenthood has made it legal in many states for minors to transition and take body altering hormones (girls taking testosterone) and parents have no say in the matter. The libs are hiding laws banning parents having a say in transitioning children in anti “ga y conversion” laws. Read Abigail Shrier’s book and for gods sake start paying attention to what’s going on.

 
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The world is gonna change. Hopefully we here in the US can remain as the Top Dogs but, alas, I suspect not as we simply are too fucking stupid to get it. Everyone who disagrees with me is *not* a Socialist/Communist - we can have Universal/Single payer Health Care *and* keep our guns if we stop rationalizing *everything* that benefits *everyone* as "Socialism/Communism" and assume that we have to be disarmed to have it.

I am guessing that you don’t have any American veteran friends whom have dealt with the VA healthcare system. If that’s the case, I and probably a few other veterans on the Hide could offer you some data on government healthcare.
 
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I am guessing that you don’t have any American veteran friends whom have dealt with the VA healthcare system. If that’s the case, I and probably a few other veterans on the Hide could offer you some data on government healthcare.

You have guessed wrong. Our Government is our enemy - not yer neighbor be he Snowflake, Democrat, Liberal, or Ever Trumper, Republican, or Conservative. We have been divided against each other deliberately. By the Government. Wonder why?


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