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Trump uses treason

The President cant just call the FBI and say go kick in this guy's door and arrest him? Wish he could. He has to go thru the DOJ. You guys act like he has his own private Gestapo. He isn't Putin, and this ain't Russia. I would like to see that too. Start with Hillary!
 
DOJ would have to be willing to sacrifice their sacred cow = FISA Court and admit corruption at the top of the previous WH, CIA, FBI, State, ..... Ain't going to happen. They, Bar included, will protect the Gov, their god.

Edit: I think Bar's job is to provide a soft landing for the agencies / people involved in the coup attempt.
 
The President cant just call the FBI and say go kick in this guy's door and arrest him? Wish he could. He has to go thru the DOJ. You guys act like he has his own private Gestapo. He isn't Putin, and this ain't Russia. I would like to see that too. Start with Hillary!


The FBI is part of the treason.

Hate to say it but this is military tribunal stuff.

Guantanamo's foreign enemy inmates need some domestic enemy neighbors.
 
All of this talk of kicking in doors, tribunals and circumventing the law sounds exactly what the socialist/communist/fascists are saying. Two sides of the same coin. Either you believe and support the law of the land or you don’t. It’s not just a case of justifying lawlessness for the convenience of expediting matters, it’s saying that it’s okay to be just like the other side as long as it’s for your chosen reasons.

It’s a fact that the balance beam of justice moves slowly. And yes, it seems too slow when considering how egregious some of the crimes against this country have been. Rushing to “justice” by creating kangaroo courts and ordering arrests without following rule of law makes you no better than those you oppose.

If you cannot see that the pendulum has slowed and may actually be turning back towards center, then maybe you are being myopic in your zeal. Admirable, but not without pitfalls.
 
I didn’t say circumvent the law or tribunals. I said use the FBI as what they were intended for, find evidence that these people are politically corrupt and violating our laws, kick their doors in, arrest them, give them due process and if found guilty, sentence them. I never once said guilty before proven innocent.
The same FBI that's still to this day covering up their involvement in the attempted coup?
 
Well, first some mass firings would have to be done and bring in some actual law abiding agents. Then turn around and go kick in the door on the ones fired and arrest for treason lol

Probably waiting til after the election at this point to make any big moves.

He could toss all up on charges that merit them, and then the next President come in and reverse everything.

If half the voting population could be shown they been brainwashed, then he could probably set things in motion now.
 
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All of this talk of kicking in doors, tribunals and circumventing the law sounds exactly what the socialist/communist/fascists are saying. Two sides of the same coin. Either you believe and support the law of the land or you don’t. It’s not just a case of justifying lawlessness for the convenience of expediting matters, it’s saying that it’s okay to be just like the other side as long as it’s for your chosen reasons.

It’s a fact that the balance beam of justice moves slowly. And yes, it seems too slow when considering how egregious some of the crimes against this country have been. Rushing to “justice” by creating kangaroo courts and ordering arrests without following rule of law makes you no better than those you oppose.

If you cannot see that the pendulum has slowed and may actually be turning back towards center, then maybe you are being myopic in your zeal. Admirable, but not without pitfalls.


Am breathing into paper lunch bag.........Huff, Huff, Huff........
 
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I didn’t say circumvent the law or tribunals. I said use the FBI as what they were intended for, find evidence that these people are politically corrupt and violating our laws, kick their doors in, arrest them, give them due process and if found guilty, sentence them. I never once said guilty before proven innocent.
I can agree with this approach.
 
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All of this talk of kicking in doors, tribunals and circumventing the law sounds exactly what the socialist/communist/fascists are saying. Two sides of the same coin. Either you believe and support the law of the land or you don’t. It’s not just a case of justifying lawlessness for the convenience of expediting matters, it’s saying that it’s okay to be just like the other side as long as it’s for your chosen reasons.

It’s a fact that the balance beam of justice moves slowly. And yes, it seems too slow when considering how egregious some of the crimes against this country have been. Rushing to “justice” by creating kangaroo courts and ordering arrests without following rule of law makes you no better than those you oppose.

If you cannot see that the pendulum has slowed and may actually be turning back towards center, then maybe you are being myopic in your zeal. Admirable, but not without pitfalls.

I generally agree with you on most matters but not on this one.

No one is trying to circumvent anything other than the crazy left. They are blatantly operating outside of the law and have the full support of the agencies that are SUPPOSED TO PREVENT this from occurring. They are doing it with the full support of the MSM and are constantly barraging the masses with specious information that is trying to legitimize their actions. They are destroying the moral and economic fabric of this country. They are painting a picture of what they want this Republic to turn into and they are relentlessly driving it with outstanding organization.

You call us myopic...fuck...I think you need a new prescription. The pendulum is not moving in any direction but further left everyday. Legitimate operating procedures set in our Constitution are being willfully ignored and Thugs like BLM and Antifa receive a free pass.

If the organizations that are supposed to prevent this WILL not and the judiciary WILL not take action, then I see we are well within our right to operate in the same way. Doesn't make it right. I never said it did but expecting that the very organizations and agencies that are now operating to overthrow a legitimate, sitting President are suddenly going to start acting properly is a fairy tale. I stopped believing in fairy tales long ago.

And that brings us to our war… The Culture War.

At its heart the Culture War is about the rules that make up our civilization. The progressive Left has been working to loosen and change these rules and expectations for centuries… and we on the Right have let them.

No more.

We are not Conservatives. We are not the mere weights dragging along… slowing down the plow. We are not the resistance. We are here to put those rules back where they belong. We are here to take back our birthrights. We are here to safeguard and rebuild Western Civilization.

We are the Takers.
 
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How about he stops talking and start doing something. I keep hearing him say this is treason but he’s not standing up and having the people involved thrown in prison for treason...

Time to nut up or shut up

Trump 2020: Hang them High, Hang them High!

Now that should be the chant!

Nothing can stop what is coming.
Nothing.
Q
 
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I didn’t say circumvent the law or tribunals. I said use the FBI as what they were intended for, find evidence that these people are politically corrupt and violating our laws, kick their doors in, arrest them, give them due process and if found guilty, sentence them. I never once said guilty before proven innocent.

As MTN pointed out, that’s relying on a known corrupt entity to investigate and charge itself. That would never happen. Maybe after mass firings, like you stated, but even then you still don’t know 100% that you got rid of all the problem people.


Probably waiting til after the election at this point to make any big moves.

He could toss all up on charges that merit them, and then the next President come in and reverse everything.

If half the voting population could be shown they been brainwashed, then he could probably set things in motion now.

Maybe so. And, if I was any of them that was part of the attempted coup, especially since most of them have money, I’d be fleeing to s new country right about now. Trump better put a hold on those passports if this is truly his plan.

Making "a difference" does not address the problem effectively.

What's needed is systematic purges, and not token gestures.

My view is that when the structure is riddled with termites; it's time for the torch, and not for the chisel.

Start fresh with a clean slate.

Raze the Swamp.

The Coup...

Greg

You guys ever think that this is why Trump gets rid of people so often. I think it’s on purpose for the reasons you state. What better way is there to avoid having someone on your staff become tainted and corrupt by the evil ones in DC other than purposely limiting their time with you? Either Trump is brilliant or he is a blithering fool that appears to somewhat know what he is doing. As many have argued tho, if he is brilliant, he just ain’t moving as fast with his plans as many here would like.
 
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The Constitution is the law of the land....you sound like the Tori’s did during the revolution...Hillary needs to hang.
All of this talk of kicking in doors, tribunals and circumventing the law sounds exactly what the socialist/communist/fascists are saying. Two sides of the same coin. Either you believe and support the law of the land or you don’t. It’s not just a case of justifying lawlessness for the convenience of expediting matters, it’s saying that it’s okay to be just like the other side as long as it’s for your chosen reasons.

It’s a fact that the balance beam of justice moves slowly. And yes, it seems too slow when considering how egregious some of the crimes against this country have been. Rushing to “justice” by creating kangaroo courts and ordering arrests without following rule of law makes you no better than those you oppose.

If you cannot see that the pendulum has slowed and may actually be turning back towards center, then maybe you are being myopic in your zeal. Admirable, but not without pitfalls.
 
I generally agree with you on most matters but not on this one.

No one is trying to circumvent anything other than the crazy left. They are blatantly operating outside of the law and have the full support of the agencies that are SUPPOSED TO PREVENT this from occurring. They are doing it with the full support of the MSM and are constantly barraging the masses with specious information that is trying to legitimize their actions. They are destroying the moral and economic fabric of this country. They are painting a picture of what they want this Republic to turn into and they are relentlessly driving it with outstanding organization.

You call us myopic...fuck...I think you need a new prescription. The pendulum is not moving in any direction but further left everyday. Legitimate operating procedures set in our Constitution are being willfully ignored and Thugs like BLM and Antifa receive a free pass.

If the organizations that are supposed to prevent this WILL not and the judiciary WILL not take action, then I see we are well within our right to operate in the same way. Doesn't make it right. I never said it did but expecting that the very organizations and agencies that are now operating to overthrow a legitimate, sitting President are suddenly going to start acting properly is a fairy tale. I stopped believing in fairy tales long ago.

And that brings us to our war… The Culture War.

At its heart the Culture War is about the rules that make up our civilization. The progressive Left has been working to loosen and change these rules and expectations for centuries… and we on the Right have let them.

No more.

We are not Conservatives. We are not the mere weights dragging along… slowing down the plow. We are not the resistance. We are here to put those rules back where they belong. We are here to take back our birthrights. We are here to safeguard and rebuild Western Civilization.

We are the Takers.
Nik, I cannot argue with your so eloquently written reply. Almost every point you make is true enough. Maybe I do need to update my prescription.

Having said that, you point out that we need to put the rules back in place. I couldn’t agree more. I just don’t think that POTUS could do it using the methods that are being proposed. Assuming of course that he ever had/has the intent or will to do so. This onus falls squarely on the backs of the people. Pretty much as you state.
 
trump has set the table for military tribunals, and gitmo has been expanded and improved, even though we are decreasing our footprint in the middle east as much as we can.

hmmm
 
The Constitution is the law of the land....you sound like the Tori’s did during the revolution...Hillary needs to hang.

Lol! How easy it is to toss around names instead of offering logic and discourse. It matters not to me.

Even the Constitution spells out how this law of the land is to be applied. That’s exactly what I’m saying. What you are saying is that we fight to reinstate the Constitutional laws of this country by ignoring the very tenets of that document. I’m saying that we should heed that document or all is truly lost.
 
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Laugh all you want you criticizer. Tribunals conducted by we the people holding the feds and the hilery’s accountable would be constitutional. A vast majority of the things our gov currently does or allows to be done would not be. But what do I know, I’m just a guy who took a oath and signed a unending contract with blood. Who are you to criticize? Do you actually think America could be restored in a courtroom? Do you actually think fbi or gov or Clinton do what’s best for America? You’ve already proven you have no grasp of the constitution and yet you criticize me because I don’t say much. The constitution says more than I could better than anyone could. Respect it or leave. Are you in a red flag state?
Lol! How easy it is to toss around names instead of offering logic and discourse. It matters not to me.

Even the Constitution spells out how this law of the land is to be applied. That’s exactly what I’m saying. What you are saying is that we fight to reinstate the Constitutional laws of this country by ignoring the very tenets of that document. I’m saying that we should heed that document or all is truly lost.
 
I love my family I like my neighbors I love my Country I owe my life to those who have defended it and I feel guilty about it. When I hear politicians who hate this Nation and want to undo what the Founding Fathers setup I thank God for rope and trees, I thank God ammo is reasonably cheap.
 
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Laugh all you want you criticizer. Tribunals conducted by we the people holding the feds and the hilery’s accountable would be constitutional. A vast majority of the things our gov currently does or allows to be done would not be. But what do I know, I’m just a guy who took a oath and signed a unending contract with blood. Who are you to criticize? Do you actually think America could be restored in a courtroom? Do you actually think fbi or gov or Clinton do what’s best for America? You’ve already proven you have no grasp of the constitution and yet you criticize me because I don’t say much. The constitution says more than I could better than anyone could. Respect it or leave. Are you in a red flag state?
Like I said. Not capable of intelligent discourse, so you resort to calling anyone who tries to engage you in such a liberal and tell them to get lost.

Either that or you are just a troll. So bye. Bye bye now.
 
I want to see doors kicked in. I want to see traitors hanging from rope. I love the Constitution and want to see it upheld.

What I don’t want to see is doors kicked in, then the case getting overturned because we did not follow the Constitution.

In the end I will never trust the system again if these effers don’t hang. There is no FBI soft landing that will convince me Justice prevailed.
 
What do you do when the system has been weaponized against the people. The justice system is selectively being used and is not being applied to the corrupt ones that are part of the deep state ses and junior offices.

You had James Comeys daughter doing the trump investigation. no indication of a conflict there now is there. Yet they demanded Jeff sessions recuse.

A full reset is required. DC needs to be burned to the ground, like it was Atlanta 1864.

I want to see doors kicked in. I want to see traitors hanging from rope. I love the Constitution and want to see it upheld.

What I don’t want to see is doors kicked in, then the case getting overturned because we did not follow the Constitution.

In the end I will never trust the system again if these effers don’t hang. There is no FBI soft landing that will convince me Justice prevailed.
 
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The way I see it, the communist party played their hand pretty well. They have used the propaganda networks to convince a large portion of the population that Trump is a Russian agent aimed at taking down the country and that he's a facist looking to take over like Hitler. The DOJ, FBI, DHS and the rest of the so called intelligence alphabet are corrupt.
The latest media bullshit is to claim that Barr is in the same boat as Trump and doing his bidding to cover up for Trump.
Any action at this time will be used by the media to say "we told you he was Hitler. Now he's using the DOJ to take over the country". The Nadler, Piglosi, Shumer clown car will be standing in front of every camera spewing their tested talking points.
Trump is just a speed bump to the inevitable demise.
But it is not over until the lead flies or the dirt is shoveled to cover my ass.
 
Proof of my point.^^^^^.
We had a member come here the other day and exclaim that Trump pocketed a BILLION DOLLARS from the Russian deal. A deal to build a hotel in Russia that never happened. The " Great Society" of Johnson was a chess move. It's taken 50 some years but a majority of the populace are now like zoo animals.
 
You say I’m tossing around names yet you call everyone suggesting a tactic of kicking in a door a communist/socialist/facist. You talk of “law of the land” When those that make the laws don’t abide by them there are no laws. Have you ever kicked in a door? I have. You think you stand on moral high ground? Your statements show your standing in the swamp. You criticize me for not offering logic and discourse. My logic is already over your head. And please excuse me for not writing a few paragraphs between putting in 16 hour days keeping your little bubble of alternate reality around you. You say the constitution lays out how the law of the land is to be applied? I say show me in the constitution we’re it says I wouldn’t be within my constitutional rights to kick in hillary’s Door, drag her by her hair to a undisclosed location, hold a tribunal, and pending the proper outcome, hang her in the courtyard.. When cops take guns without due process and are not met with armed resistance or even armed protest, the constitution is an endangered species. I never said ignore the constitution. But just like Iraq, we can’t be the only ones following Geneva convention. Doors are kicked in all the time at wrong addresses and I don’t hear a peep from you. You name call then point a finger at me. Then you call me a troll? Next your probably gonna tell me that Islam is a religion of peace or sanctuary cities have less crime or something?

names instead of offering logic and discourse. It matters not to me.

Even the Constitution spells out how this law of the land is to be applied. That’s exactly what I’m saying. What you are saying is that we fight to reinstate the Constitutional laws of this country by ignoring the very tenets of that document. I’m saying that we should heed that document or all is truly lost.
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How about we have our cake and eat it too.

First we kick in the door,

Then:
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I think Sylvester Stallone is a huge ass hypocrite due to his many rants about assault weapons, and a very poor choice for anything I would consider as helping our cause. Clint Eastwood, John Voight, Gary Sinise, Tom Selleck or Vince Vaughn would be a much better choice. Even though Stallone is supposedly pro Trump he doesn't seem to be pro 2nd amendment.
 
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Ain’t that some shit too man.

It’s rancid from the bottom to the top...

With that said there are a handful of God fearing Constitutionalist sheriffs out there but the system will do away with them. Probably label them a rapist or put kid porn on their work computer and ruin them for standing up for us common folk...
Any God fearing constitutional sheriff that makes a stand for God or constitution has my support. Any willing to deputize me, I will defend and fight for. I’d prefer a plane ticket, but if needed I can find a way. Everything I’ve read supports this as being a constitutional way to take down the feds. Just one sheriff in one red flag state willing to deputize and tell the feds the constitution is the law of the land is all it would take. That would be the ember that starts the fire. And that would hold the moral high ground that some are looking for. I know they are out there. I just don’t know any of them personally yet.
 
More than a handful.


Ain’t that some shit too man.

It’s rancid from the bottom to the top...

With that said there are a handful of God fearing Constitutionalist sheriffs out there but the system will do away with them. Probably label them a rapist or put kid porn on their work computer and ruin them for standing up for us common folk...
 
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One of the biggest problems is the federal welfare to all of these county and city police departments. Kinda hard to bite the hand that feeds you surplus military weapontry and whatnot..,

If the police were more vocally against the raping of our liberty and in unity with us, they wouldn’t need the federal dollars because the donations would be a steady flow.

But as long there are federal dollars and cops that think they are above the law, things aren’t going to change much..
And then you have those cops that shoulda been a prison guard.. and the ones that are always afraid and will end up shooting someone.
 
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Proof of my point.^^^^^.
We had a member come here the other day and exclaim that Trump pocketed a BILLION DOLLARS from the Russian deal. A deal to build a hotel in Russia that never happened. The " Great Society" of Johnson was a chess move. It's taken 50 some years but a majority of the populace are now like zoo animals.
These .gov fucks have their hands in each others back pockets. There is always a deal going on, when they walk up the steps of the capital building, it looks like a F'n train! I could give a crap if Trump has a deal with F'n Putin to put a Trump tower in F'n Moscow! The Bush's (dad and sonny) had deals going on, they were an oil family, there's back-door deals, shit, Mitch McConnel's married to a chinese woman that her dad is head of shipping in China, what's up with that?? No deals there! F'n Hitlery and Billybob, worked more with the Ruskies, than Trumpy did. My point being, is that with MSM, more corrupt shit is coming out into the open (fake or not) and the American people are the one's suffering at the hands of these corrupt fucks. I never in my adult life thought I would see/hear the shit that is vomited out of these officials mouths. Like what was mentioned earlier, a serious "purge" needs to happen, it has just went on for too long and we do need to get back to what OUR founding fathers laid down for this republic. I'm sick and tired of people (and I use that term very loosely) coming to this country and bringing their shit customs and beliefs, getting a position in .gov, then fucking shit up even more. Gov. better square their shit up and start doing the work of the real AMERICAN tax paying people and quit F'n off. These poo poo bastards with their free shit, we are so FUCK'd, I'm beside myself! Mac:mad:
 
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Before Sylvester was Sly, we was a homeless bum (Yes; we used that word back in those days.) sleeping on the benches down in the NY City Subway. I may have even seen him doing that once or twice, myself.

Before we start going all SJW about my comment; I absolutely applaud the way he got his act back together and became a "Hollywood Legend". I also think that he, and the other "Hollywood Legends" all enjoy the same 1st Amendment rights as we do and can spout all manner of poppycock as they choose, should they choose.

Sauce for the goose, etc.

Whenever faced with the dichotomy of their portraying gunslinging hellraisers on the one hand and mouthing the latest antigunner tripe on the other; I just chuckle and whisper, "Yep, open your mouths and remove all doubt...".

Greg
 
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