Tumblr is the virus that will kill us all?

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I caught an interview by Tucker, with a young, 22 yr. old woman, Helena Kerschner, that was on the road to transgender from age 15 through age 19 (taking T, contemplating surgeries, etc.), but then eventually figured out the entire thing was actually making her more miserable than she thought she was when she embarked. It's actually a bit bizarre, because she is well spoken and after reading some of her recent essays and articles, she's actually smart and insightful...how did she fall for this shit?? But that's a tangent....

Anyway, probably for the reason of trying to reconcile that question, I wanted to know more about her. She did a lengthier interview with Michael Knowles, so I watched that. During this talk, she mentions she wrote some things about this experience. So I found them on the internet, and read them. One of those contains this:
We’ve all read Lord of the Flies, right? A bunch of tween boys get stranded on an island and all of their deepest, most repressed urges surface as they desperately attempt to organize and manage the tiny preteen society they’ve found themselves in. The novel ends in bloodshed, as the author theorizes that the immaturity, communication breakdown, and decision making difficulties one would find in a group of adolescent boys would create a chamber of destruction. How would it have ended differently, some have asked, if the story was one of a stranded group of girls? What would happen if every troubled, isolated, self-loathing, depressed, and emotionally overwrought teenage girl in the world wound up alone on an island?


Tumblr. Tumblr would happen.
She goes on to describe the Tumblr arena; the allure, how it relates, and how the cultural hierarchies and tactics that developed there, are mirrored in what we are seeing to today, play out on other social platforms, and now going so far as to how "once wise nations are implementing laws" catering to insanity.

Another guy, Bill Hurrell, evidently had already been theorizing about some aspects of the "woke" culture, its tactics, etc. and had already written about Tumblr. After Helena came forward and wrote some of her pieces, Bill caught wind and even credited Helena's insight as he revisits the Tumblr subject. Some of what I read:

Helena Kerschner

Bill Hurrell

Mary Jackson

I don't expect many to read through, but I would like to share the short version of Bill's and Helena's theory that the Tumblr environmental culture is "patient zero" for the woke culture now spreading and infecting everything else. I find their observations and theory fairly persuasive:

*The Tumblr platform catered to fans of popular entertainment (fan fiction, fan art related to popular shows, books, movies, etc.) and provided easy ways for those fans to present. Young girls were the primary demographic of early Tumblr.

*These fiction fans are most often young, disaffected youth, seeking attention they otherwise don't receive, desperate to "fit in" somewhere.

*These typically disaffected, unpopular teens, spend an inordinate amount of time and energy on the platform, either immersing themselves, or trying to get their version of their fan art/fan fiction seen and accepted among their Tumblr peers. In conjunction, this "immersion" often grows to a scale they can no longer distinguish between themselves and the fictional characters; this is where the crazy "otherkin" "fictionkin" "furries" and other bizarreness starts, because they are inserting themselves into the stories they follow, presumably as an escape from their own realities.

*Popularity and power struggles to get their own stories/art accepted, or their favorites from others accepted, spawned tactics and vectors that were found to be effective over time on the platform; the prevailing tactic to gain acceptance and shut down competitors, was "critical theory" as we know it, where only sympathetic users/authors could be considered, because if you were already powerful and popular, you don't need or deserve accolade. Eventually, if you were already considered "of power" you deserve punishment, because you were contributing to the oppression of the hapless, weak, disaffected.

*The dynamic of only the weak victims could become accepted, provided incentive to either fake your victimhood, or in most cases, seek a condition where you could then be considered a victim of this oppression; the most popular method to achieve that on Tumblr, especially among became transgender; because they were a marginal group that was "literally being killed by all the cis" and was the only avenue for a young white to properly join the ranks of the oppressed.

This is not to say Tumblr is the problem. Rather, it was probably the earliest platform that happened to gain popularity among a significant portion of youth that became inordinately immersed in fiction to the point where developing augments to that fiction, via fan art, fan fiction stories and the like, became an all-consuming passion among a large set of youth that also considered themselves disaffected outcasts, which of course becomes self-fulfilling as they would invariably further remove and isolate themselves as they spent more and more time devoted to their online fantasy world.

Bill goes on to narrow down the Tumblr "Glee Wars," that transpired during the airing of the TV show, Glee, that honed the strategies and tactics we see today in how the woke now operate everywhere else; it all happened due to the massive in-fighting about what characters should "ship" with what other character...which characters slighted the other characters inappropriately (in the actual version aired by the writers/producers of the show)...all of the venom, attacks, rage, over characters in a TV show that didn't do what they were "supposed to" according to the divergent views of millions of Tumblr users; many saw themselves as the actual character that got slighted.

So this craziness, where they can't distinguish reality, the horde/brigade attacks online, the absolute need to establish victimhood for any credibility, the massive spike in "transgender", the cancel culture attempts, where logic has no effect, where their "social justice" crusades don't match their actual behavior (because their methods are not to achieve justice, but are just a way to shut down competing flavors of how they wish things to be), all of this traces back to how the communities on Tumblr developed, and more specifically honed in the "Glee Wars" to what we now see today.

Bill adds that it maps well to the spread of this contagion, as these young Tumblr users entered college, and the fan art/fan fiction emphasis of the platform users, as they aged out, this phenomenon first spread to universities. Then later, media/entertainment (many of them got "noticed" for their art/fiction from Tumblr and got work offers). Their descent into becoming devote ideologues of what essentially became a cult, provided the motivation to become school teachers, influencing other youth.

In recent events, that Taylor Lorenz, stalker and attempted canceler of LibsOfTikTok, has spent her career sleuthing, outing, shaming, canceling all perceived enemies of the "woke", and she was an avid, prolific Tumblr girl in her youth; she is mid-30s now.

I think there are many facets to how the internet, escapism and the typical maladies of preteen/teen development converge to make it easier to fall prey to shit, but I think they have a compelling case and timeline to mark Tumblr as the likely place that could be considered "ground zero" and has since spread.

What is also bad news in Helena's story, is that not only do the "counselors" of schools "affirm" your transgender choices and will plot to hide it from your family for you, but in her two hospitalizations for manic episodes, no physician ever considered her massive testosterone injections as a possible cause for her problem. Instead, they speculated bi-polar and just gave her meds for that. Planned Parenthood, that intially gave here the T, wanted to start of 25 mg dose, but the confused, untrained, 18 year old, says no, I want more, and they just agree, OK, take 100mg. This sort of malpractice is probably prevalent, and my guess is that the actual medical establishment sees lots of dollar signs; their incentive is clear, that if these confused, mentally manipulated teens engage in this shit, they'll need meds and surgeries and all kinds of mental treatment for life. It'll be a massive industry, so they "affirm". Sick.
 

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    I'm sure all the links are informative, but I'm a simple man. Use CRT to make children hate themselves. Provide a gender theory that by adopting it allows them to shed the evil of their whiteness, makes them hate their Republican parents and vote Democrat for life.
     
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    LOL, no worries guys.

    I just caught that one interview, but then got super curious about "where did this shit mostly start?" and "why is it so prevalent all of a sudden?" Read some stuff that makes a good case of where it probably came from, and when it mostly started.

    Just posted best theory I found for the hell of it, figuring maybe a few have been wondering similar.
     

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    Well, my legs may have fallen asleep on this one a little … but I’ve wondered why in the hell society has collapsed so rapidly recently. There’s been a slow decline, but the last 10ish years, it’s fallen off a cliff…
     
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    Tumblr was a thing but then they went after all the nakeds and now all the cool cats are on other similar platforms.
    Motherless however is still around and going well...
     

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    After reading all that, I have just one question, wtf is tumbler?
    A tumbler is a flat-floored beverage container usually made of plastic, glass or stainless steel. Theories vary as to the etymology of the word tumbler. One such theory is that the glasses originally had a pointed or convex base and could not be set down without spilling.
     

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    Tumblr was a thing but then they went after all the nakeds and now all the cool cats are on other similar platforms.
    Motherless however is still around and going well...
    I thought Motherless was a FBI run, child porn download site .
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    Here's the money quote from one of the articles by Bill Hurrell :

    "...all of wokeness was really a scheme to return us to the power dynamics of high school."

    I've long been struck by the immaturity and emotionalism of leftist discourse, that it sounds like a bunch of teen-age mean girls set the tone for the way they express themselves. Hurrell's observations may go a long way toward providing the reason for that. It all sounds pretty crazy, but not implausible.
     

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    It all sounds pretty crazy, but not implausible.
    It does sound crazy, but witnessing the antics and crazy illogic, it all aligns with this dynamic of overly emotional, illogical and crazy teenage angst type of behavior, that the theory lends some sense to at least why this movement is the way it is right now. Now, why it is actually taken seriously by anyone not a distraught, emotional child, remains a mystery.
     
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    I caught an interview by Tucker, with a young, 22 yr. old woman, Helena Kerschner, that was on the road to transgender from age 15 through age 19 (taking T, contemplating surgeries, etc.), but then eventually figured out the entire thing was actually making her more miserable than she thought she was when she embarked. It's actually a bit bizarre, because she is well spoken and after reading some of her recent essays and articles, she's actually smart and insightful...how did she fall for this shit?? But that's a tangent....

    Anyway, probably for the reason of trying to reconcile that question, I wanted to know more about her. She did a lengthier interview with Michael Knowles, so I watched that. During this talk, she mentions she wrote some things about this experience. So I found them on the internet, and read them. One of those contains this:

    She goes on to describe the Tumblr arena; the allure, how it relates, and how the cultural hierarchies and tactics that developed there, are mirrored in what we are seeing to today, play out on other social platforms, and now going so far as to how "once wise nations are implementing laws" catering to insanity.

    Another guy, Bill Hurrell, evidently had already been theorizing about some aspects of the "woke" culture, its tactics, etc. and had already written about Tumblr. After Helena came forward and wrote some of her pieces, Bill caught wind and even credited Helena's insight as he revisits the Tumblr subject. Some of what I read:

    Helena Kerschner

    Bill Hurrell

    Mary Jackson

    I don't expect many to read through, but I would like to share the short version of Bill's and Helena's theory that the Tumblr environmental culture is "patient zero" for the woke culture now spreading and infecting everything else. I find their observations and theory fairly persuasive:

    *The Tumblr platform catered to fans of popular entertainment (fan fiction, fan art related to popular shows, books, movies, etc.) and provided easy ways for those fans to present. Young girls were the primary demographic of early Tumblr.

    *These fiction fans are most often young, disaffected youth, seeking attention they otherwise don't receive, desperate to "fit in" somewhere.

    *These typically disaffected, unpopular teens, spend an inordinate amount of time and energy on the platform, either immersing themselves, or trying to get their version of their fan art/fan fiction seen and accepted among their Tumblr peers. In conjunction, this "immersion" often grows to a scale they can no longer distinguish between themselves and the fictional characters; this is where the crazy "otherkin" "fictionkin" "furries" and other bizarreness starts, because they are inserting themselves into the stories they follow, presumably as an escape from their own realities.

    *Popularity and power struggles to get their own stories/art accepted, or their favorites from others accepted, spawned tactics and vectors that were found to be effective over time on the platform; the prevailing tactic to gain acceptance and shut down competitors, was "critical theory" as we know it, where only sympathetic users/authors could be considered, because if you were already powerful and popular, you don't need or deserve accolade. Eventually, if you were already considered "of power" you deserve punishment, because you were contributing to the oppression of the hapless, weak, disaffected.

    *The dynamic of only the weak victims could become accepted, provided incentive to either fake your victimhood, or in most cases, seek a condition where you could then be considered a victim of this oppression; the most popular method to achieve that on Tumblr, especially among became transgender; because they were a marginal group that was "literally being killed by all the cis" and was the only avenue for a young white to properly join the ranks of the oppressed.

    This is not to say Tumblr is the problem. Rather, it was probably the earliest platform that happened to gain popularity among a significant portion of youth that became inordinately immersed in fiction to the point where developing augments to that fiction, via fan art, fan fiction stories and the like, became an all-consuming passion among a large set of youth that also considered themselves disaffected outcasts, which of course becomes self-fulfilling as they would invariably further remove and isolate themselves as they spent more and more time devoted to their online fantasy world.

    Bill goes on to narrow down the Tumblr "Glee Wars," that transpired during the airing of the TV show, Glee, that honed the strategies and tactics we see today in how the woke now operate everywhere else; it all happened due to the massive in-fighting about what characters should "ship" with what other character...which characters slighted the other characters inappropriately (in the actual version aired by the writers/producers of the show)...all of the venom, attacks, rage, over characters in a TV show that didn't do what they were "supposed to" according to the divergent views of millions of Tumblr users; many saw themselves as the actual character that got slighted.

    So this craziness, where they can't distinguish reality, the horde/brigade attacks online, the absolute need to establish victimhood for any credibility, the massive spike in "transgender", the cancel culture attempts, where logic has no effect, where their "social justice" crusades don't match their actual behavior (because their methods are not to achieve justice, but are just a way to shut down competing flavors of how they wish things to be), all of this traces back to how the communities on Tumblr developed, and more specifically honed in the "Glee Wars" to what we now see today.

    Bill adds that it maps well to the spread of this contagion, as these young Tumblr users entered college, and the fan art/fan fiction emphasis of the platform users, as they aged out, this phenomenon first spread to universities. Then later, media/entertainment (many of them got "noticed" for their art/fiction from Tumblr and got work offers). Their descent into becoming devote ideologues of what essentially became a cult, provided the motivation to become school teachers, influencing other youth.

    In recent events, that Taylor Lorenz, stalker and attempted canceler of LibsOfTikTok, has spent her career sleuthing, outing, shaming, canceling all perceived enemies of the "woke", and she was an avid, prolific Tumblr girl in her youth; she is mid-30s now.

    I think there are many facets to how the internet, escapism and the typical maladies of preteen/teen development converge to make it easier to fall prey to shit, but I think they have a compelling case and timeline to mark Tumblr as the likely place that could be considered "ground zero" and has since spread.

    What is also bad news in Helena's story, is that not only do the "counselors" of schools "affirm" your transgender choices and will plot to hide it from your family for you, but in her two hospitalizations for manic episodes, no physician ever considered her massive testosterone injections as a possible cause for her problem. Instead, they speculated bi-polar and just gave her meds for that. Planned Parenthood, that intially gave here the T, wanted to start of 25 mg dose, but the confused, untrained, 18 year old, says no, I want more, and they just agree, OK, take 100mg. This sort of malpractice is probably prevalent, and my guess is that the actual medical establishment sees lots of dollar signs; their incentive is clear, that if these confused, mentally manipulated teens engage in this shit, they'll need meds and surgeries and all kinds of mental treatment for life. It'll be a massive industry, so they "affirm". Sick.
    Used to be called “Young Oktoberfest’s” or Hitler Youth. Or the Red Guard.

    None of those ended well, either.

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    You guys just need to take longer poops. Interesting read.
    Poops are for Chess.com or Kindle. Snipershide should be enjoyed either at your reloading bench or in a nice leather arm chair.