U.S. Engineers Find ‘Rogue Communication Devices’ in Chinese Solar Panels

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U.S. engineers have discovered mysterious, undocumented communication devices lurking in some Chinese-made solar power inverters and batteries Reuters reported.
“The rogue components provide additional, undocumented communication channels that could allow firewalls to be circumvented remotely, with potentially catastrophic consequences,” said Reuters’ sources, who spoke anonymously because they had not been given permission to speak on the record.
The story illustrates a security issue that has haunted analysts since the dawn of the “Internet of Things,” the sudden craze for adding Internet connectivity to all manner of devices, from household appliances to industrial machinery.
The number of devices broadcasting information online has grown exponentially since the turn of the millennium – and so has the danger that some of those devices could be spying on their users, or opening back doors into secure networks.
In the case of the suspicious Chinese power inverters, the devices were designed to connect solar panel arrays and windmills to power grids. They have Internet capability, so their performance can be monitored and their software can be updated easily.
Knowing this to be standard practice, the information technology teams at solar and wind farms set up firewalls as a precaution to prevent the devices from sending unauthorized signals. They also physically inspect equipment from China to look for bugs, and they find them with shocking regularity.
“The two people declined to name the Chinese manufacturers of the inverters and batteries with extra communication devices, nor say how many they had found in total. The existence of the rogue devices has not previously been reported. The U.S. government has not publicly acknowledged the discoveries,” Reuters reported.
These “rogue communications devices” could do a lot more than just spy on the American power grids that use them. Cybersecurity experts have long warned that hostile powers are very interested in targeting American infrastructure. Hidden Internet connections could allow an attacker to shut down power grids or damage sensitive machinery.
This is not a purely hypothetical threat. On November 15, 2024, users of inverters manufactured by a Chinese company called Deye reported their units suddenly displayed pop-up error messages and became “bricked,” or unusable.
Deye said the units were sold without proper authorization, outside of their distribution contracts for the Western hemisphere, and the simultaneous brickings occurred not because they sent a kill command over the Internet, but rather because the unauthorized units did not receive scheduled firmware updates.
Some users doubt the company’s explanation, and continue to believe Deye did use remote commands to kill the inverters. Whatever the exact scenario was, the incident was an unwelcome reminder for solar panel owners that their equipment could be controlled or shut down using the Internet.
Rep. Carlos Gimenez (R-FL) in the House, and Sens. Rick Scott (R-FL) and Maggie Hassan (D-MA), have introduced legislation to “decouple” U.S. companies from batteries made by Chinese companies. Cybersecurity vulnerability was listed as one of the most important reasons to move away from Chinese equipment.
“With our nation currently sourcing a majority of its batteries from Chinese-linked manufacturers, we’re subject to a major, unnecessary risk to our national security,” Sen. Scott said in February.
Other countries have also passed legislation based on the risks posed by Chinese power equipment. Lithuania passed a law in November requiring power plant operators to install cybersecurity defenses to prevent tampering with their Chinese hardware, as occurred in the Deye incident. The law banned Chinese manufacturers from remotely accessing systems they supply to Lithuania.
Some U.S. power companies, notably including Florida Power & Light (FPL), have launched their own initiatives to minimize reliance on Chinese power inverters and batteries.
China is the largest supplier of inverters by a significant margin. One Chinese company, electronics and telecom giant Huawei, accounts for almost 30 percent of the global supply, although it exited from the U.S. market in 2019 after its 5G networking hardware was banned.
 
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So do the coffee makers, washing machines, dildos, cars, and whatnot.

Even your momma’s pacemaker and insulin pumps.

They already know my underwear size, and my Cologuard DNA profie.

My Chinese - made iPad has stopped phoning home about all my midget wrestling and bum fight videos.

It’s kind of obvious why China’s tech is firewalled away from us, right?

They have midget porn too, that they don’t want us to see.

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All that being said, what’s the big deal?

Our individual information is already being sold left and right on the internet.

We are such hypocrites with our double standards, in a really big glass house.
 
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Thread from Sept last year about what we found in Ham radios, made in china.

 
How long have we been saying on SH that this shit is going to be in everything we get from Chinese… especially things like HAM radios, scopes and electronic devices, phones, cameras, energy generation devices…

Years. We been saying it for years!!!!

But Noooooooooo we were just conspiracy theorists.

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OT (Operational Technology) is a part of the cybersecurity world that is seriously under resourced and has the capacity to really fuck things up because a whole lot of it is present on the shop floor or where things actually interact with the physical world. It's also a nightmare because so much of the hardware can't really be patched when you find something wrong. This is only going to get worse as the relentless drive to connect "everything" to the internet in the search for efficiency continues.
 
One has to take all the China bashing with massive grain of salt , pelebs are being conditioned for a conflict , like mentioned before decades ago folks were riled up over Japan in very similar fashion.

I can imagine ,panels , no even panels but ancilary hardware having remote diagnostics.


But lets cut the BS , US is in this field magnitudes ahead of China.

EVERY SINGLE ELECTRONIC DEVICE SOLD IN AMERICA THAT IS CAPABLE OF RECEIVING ANY KIND OF REMOTE SIGNAL, IS, BY LAW (1995-1996 Telecommunication Act) REQUIRED TO HAVE BACK DOORS .

The Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) was passed in 1994 to make it easier for the feds to listen in to everyone's phone calls. The law forced phone companies to design their digital networks with special backdoors for government surveillance.

FCC also forced Internet Service Providers (ISPs) and nearly all VoIP companies to design their systems to be tappable , and that does not stop at US borders.

Broadband Internet access and VoIP providers and their customers bear the considerable costs of purchasing and implementing surveillance-ready network technologies. So you are paying extra to make it easier for the FBI and net-savvy criminals to spy on you. !!
(when they tell you we have to ban this or that on national security grounds it mostly BS about protecting domestic companies from competition or about not having all the back door acess domestic tech companies provide .)

End of the day Silicon Valey was practicaly set up by the Pentagon for MIC ,and spinoffs for civilian aplications have all started with three leter agency funds - they are all national security contractors and you are their product.


Florida is just now trying to push trough SB 868 / HB 743.backdoor into encrypted platforms if minors use them, and for law enforcement to have easy access to your messages. (all platofrms are potentialy used by minors)
 
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One has to take all the China bashing with massive grain of salt , pelebs are being conditioned for a conflict , like mentioned before decades ago folks were riled up over Japan in very similar fashion.

I can imagine ,panels , no even panels but ancilary hardware having remote diagnostics.


But lets cut the BS , US is in this field magnitudes ahead of China.

EVERY SINGLE ELECTRONIC DEVICE SOLD IN AMERICA THAT IS CAPABLE OF RECEIVING ANY KIND OF REMOTE SIGNAL, IS, BY LAW (1995-1996 Telecommunication Act) REQUIRED TO HAVE BACK DOORS .

The Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) was passed in 1994 to make it easier for the feds to listen in to everyone's phone calls. The law forced phone companies to design their digital networks with special backdoors for government surveillance.

FCC also forced Internet Service Providers (ISPs) and nearly all VoIP companies to design their systems to be tappable , and that does not stop at US borders.

Broadband Internet access and VoIP providers and their customers bear the considerable costs of purchasing and implementing surveillance-ready network technologies. So you are paying extra to make it easier for the FBI and net-savvy criminals to spy on you. !!
(when they tell you we have to ban this or that on national security grounds it mostly BS about protecting domestic companies from competition or about not having all the back door acess domestic tech companies provide .)

End of the day Silicon Valey was practicaly set up by the Pentagon for MIC ,and spinoffs for civilian aplications have all started with three leter agency funds - they are all national security contractors and you are their product.


Florida is just now trying to push trough SB 868 / HB 743.backdoor into encrypted platforms if minors use them, and for law enforcement to have easy access to your messages. (all platofrms are potentialy used by minors)

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Heeey, JimBob! Lookit all them Lenovers on the ISS!

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On the newer Chynee Space Station, too!


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Shh!

Don't interrupt my Chynagasm!
 
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